F 35 JSF Fighter

apumekaanikko

Kersantti
On se perkeleellisen kiva tietää että pelkästään 64:llä kolmefemmalla estetään venäjän hyökkäys tänne. Voisin sanoa Kekkosen sanoin että VITUN TUNARIT! Ja sitten vielä asian sivusta niin yksikään aselaji yksinään ei estä hyökkäystä.
Urkki kirjoitti että "saatanan tunarit" ja aiheesta. Omasta puolestani taas totean, että kynnysasejäjestelmällä voi hyvinkin olla hyökkimistä estävä efekti. Salamakakkonen on sellainen.
 

Protheon_93

Kenraali
Urkki kirjoitti että "saatanan tunarit" ja aiheesta. Omasta puolestani taas totean, että kynnysasejäjestelmällä voi hyvinkin olla hyökkimistä estävä efekti. Salamakakkonen on sellainen.
Tämä. Jos Venäjän tulevaisuuden ilmavoimat ovat vaikka 600 Su-57, niin 64 F-35:ttä + ilmatorjunta pudottaa niistä jo sellaisen määrän alas, että Venäjä olisi sen jälkeen ilmasodankäynnissä niin heikoilla että muiden valtioiden ambitiot Venäjää vastaan olisivat korkeammalla.

Ja tämän takia kun yhdistämme tehokkaat Suomen puolustusvoimat ja hyvän diplomatian keskenään, saamme karhun pidäteltyä rajan toisella puolella.
 

Einomies1

Ylipäällikkö
Onhan Briteillä ollut käynnissä Taranis-projekti jolla on tehty ensimmäiset koelennot jo vuonna 2014. Britit ovat myös F-35 projektissa ainoa level 1 partneri ja ovat vahvasti mukana sen suunnittelussa ja valmistuksessa joten ei heidän tarvitse lähteä tyhjältä pöydältä Tempest projektiin. Uskoisin että heillä on tässä mielessä paremmat lähtötiedot kun Ranskalaisilla.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Taranis
Mitenhän tuon nyt ottaa. Dassault käynnisti oman konsepti-projektinsa Neuronin vuonna 2003:
the French government took the initiative by launching in 2003 a project for a technological demonstrator of an Unmanned Combat Air Vehicle (UCAV), elaborated in the frame of a European cooperation scheme.

The Italian, Swedish, Spanish, Greek and Swiss governments acting together with their related industrial teams, Alenia, SAAB, EADS-CASA, Hellenic Aerospace Industry (HAI) and RUAG, have joined the French initiative.
https://www.dassault-aviation.com/en/defense/neuron/introduction/


Neuronin ensilento oli joulukuussa 2012 eli edeltävänä vuotena kuin Taraniksen. Taranis on myös UK projekti ainoastaan joka aloitettiin 2006.

Ranskikset vetävät tässäkin pidemmän korren. Mitään etua ei voida kuitenkaan päätellä olevan tässä briteillä. Molemmat UCAV:t ovat itsessään vain demonstratoreita eli niiden pohjalta haetaan tietoa tulevaisuuden projekteihin. Ne tuskin koskaan pääsevät tuotantoon.
 

Kiusankpl

Luutnantti
Hieno dokkari brittien uudesta lentotukialuksesta ja F-35 -koneiden vastaanottamisesta (kohdasta 36:00 alkaen).


Enemmän F-35:n "sisäänajosta" jatko-osassa. Hiton mielenkiintoisia juttuja. Esim. mitä tapahtuu, kun laskussa (leijunnassa) menee lintu ilmanottoaukkoon ja kone on kannen päällä 15 m korkeudessa...

 
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magitsu

Ylipäällikkö
BAE’s Caruso on New F-35 Electronic Warfare System; EA-6B Prowler Sunset
BY ADMIN AWS 2019,
Lt. Col. Todd Caruso, USMC Ret., business development director at BAE Systems, discusses the new electronic warfare capability for the F-35 Lightning II fighter by Lockheed Martin, and the retirement of his old unit and aircraft, Marine Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron 2 — VMAQ-2 — and the Northrop Grumman EA-6B Prowler with Defense & Aerospace Report Editor Vago Muradian. The interview was conducted at the Air Force Association’s 2019 Air Warfare Symposium where our coverage was sponsored by L3 Technologies and Leonardo DRS.

Vago Muradian: Welcome to the Defense and Aerospace Report. I’m Vago Muradian here in Orlando, Florida for the Air Force Association’s Annual Air Warfare Symposium, the number one winter gathering of U.S. Air Force leaders from around the world, as well as industry executives, thought leaders and media here in Florida. Our coverage here is sponsored by Leonardo DRS and L3 Technologies.
We’re here on the BAE Systems stand to talk to retired United States Marine Corps Lieutenant Colonel Todd Caruso, a former Prowler driver. Anybody who knows me knows I’m a big fan of electronic warfare and I think the Battle Hog is one of the coolest aircraft in history. It’s going to sundown next week, actually, down in Cherry Point. You worked the F-35 electronic warfare platform for the Lightning II.
Todd, first, it’s great to reconnect.
Second, congratulations on the big award on the new sort of EW capability for the F-35. The jet is such a critical part of what all the forces want to do, and the electromagnetic spectrum and electronic warfare is more important than ever.
Talk to us a little bit about what this upgrade does in terms of the capabilities of the jet.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Todd Caruso: Sure, thanks a lot.
The ASQ-239 EW countermeasure suite is the electronic warfare suite for the F-35 and it’s gone through some major upgrades over the years. The most recent one is an upgrade or a program we call DTIP. It’s an acronym within an acronym. Of course the D is DCRTG — Digital Channelized Receiver/Techniques Generator that goes into the system. The TIP part of DTIP is the Tuner Insertion Program. That makes up the acronym and the program that upgrades the airplane.
Some years ago, even when I was still in uniform in the Pentagon, we were talking about a DTIP upgrade to the jet. Essentially some diminishing resources and having to put a new componentry into the airplane. So DTIP really sets a foundation for the future modernization of the airplane.
We were able to replace and redesign some of the componentry in the racks within the system itself to allow it to take on more capability in the future. So as F-35 transitions now from a system design and development on into a modernization, the EW suite is positioned for that modernization of the future.
In Block 4 we’ll see a lot of new changes coming to the EW suite, a lot of new capabilities coming on board for the system itself, both in the EW side in the ESM and then the countermeasure side as well.

Mr. Muradian: One of the challenges, obviously, with the airplane is whether it’s the ALQ-99 or [ICAT-3] or whatever else, you’re looking at big pods, whereas all of this kind of capability, and it’s not like for light capability, but a lot of capability has to fit within the mold lines of the airplane.
Talk to us a little bit about the challenge you guys have to fit that kind of capability into what is a relatively small box that’s on the airplane.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: Again, part of the DTIP program is to make more space for more capability in the future. So it actually provides more space for componentry in the racks themselves, and it provides some Group A changes for more capabilities in other parts of the airplane to be added to it from an electronic warfare standpoint.
So if you need some capability on board that will bring a lot more processing power to the airplane, we have the space available now to put in higher processing cards and things like that for more capabilities in the future.

Mr. Muradian: And from a task management standpoint, you’ve got four people that’s on a Prowler, two people on a Growler which is the EF-18G. Are you guys doing anything special in terms of the user interface to be able to, because it is a true multi-mission jet in terms of being able to do counter-air, obviously optimized for ground, but also an EW mission set.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: The very unique thing about the F-35, fully integrated mission systems, right? All mission systems report to fusion. Fusion then decides what’s the best answer for the pilot and displays that to them. So we continue to report our information to fusion as we have in the past, and we’re very connected and collaborative with the APG-81, the radar for the jet as well.
So the EW capabilities on the airplane are fully integrated with all of the mission systems reporting to fusion and then fusion determines what the pilot sees and what’s displayed and how the airplane reacts to the electronic warfare environment around it.

Mr. Muradian: Is there, the airplane is in stealthy mode, obviously, with internal carriage and internal portage, but it does have hard points externally so it can actually carry a rather large — in the less stealthy mode. The Beast mode as Jeff [Babbione] used to say. Quite a lot of stuff can be hung off the airplane.
Is there any discussion, or are you guys thinking about sort of future fits that give the airplane kind of a more significant electronic warfare payload capability and power set that would allow it to do missions, because it’s a game-changing capability to be stealthy and yet have that capacity on the aircraft?
As you look at the road map for this, what are the different sorts of applications that the aircraft’s stealthy features allow — whether hanging external things on it, which you can still do in a relatively stealthy fashion — but growing that capability over time, I guess is my question.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: F-35, being as unique as it is, a stealth platform with robust mission capability on it, can sense the environment and can access battlespace that a lot of the traditional EW platforms can’t. The F-35 isn’t designed to be an electronic warfare or electronic attack platform. It’s a strike fighter aircraft. But it does sense the environment and has lots of good information from other parts of the battle space on it. So being able to share that information is really part of a road map for the future of F-35. Be able to send electronic warfare like information across the battlefield, share it with other F-35s, share it with other 4thGen fighters, and then of course when you come back, analyze that data and share it with the EW community at large as you go into reprogramming systems and things like that in the future.

Mr. Muradian: Let me ask you kind of a broader question. Electronic warfare was obviously something very important in the Cold War. Air Force had the EF-111s and a lot of EF coated airplanes. The Navy and the Marine Corps obviously, you had the EA-6A, then you had the EA-6B, the Prowler. And then it sort of winnowed down and it became much more of a Navy/Marine Corps expertise thing because of the community. There were some Air Force guys in the joint unit. I remember the big agreement when the F-111s went away and Air Force guys were going into that jet.
Talk to us a little bit about the renaissance of electronic warfare, and the enterprise-wide approach that folks are taking in terms of melding this capability, the Army’s working on capability, the Navy, across the force this is working. How does this element of it integrate into that platform? As Dog Davis used to say, former Deputy Commandant for Aviation for the Marine Corps, the Intrepid Tiger, sort of a distributed electronic warfare space as opposed to a whole bunch of dedicated electronic warfare.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: The F-35 becomes part of the system of systems of electronic warfare capability on the battlefield that’s out there. It has a very unique mission that it has to accomplish on its own, but again, as a capable system and a very robust electronic warfare suite aboard it, it can share data across the battlefield. So it’s another node in that system of systems. So getting them all connected, really important. It’s a joint asset, and each of the services will fight it and use it in a different manner. For instance the Navy will be very collaborative with its Super Hornet fleet and its Growler fleet. When next gen jammer comes on board for the Growlers there will be a whole ConOps behind how they employ an F-35 in conjunction with those other aircraft as well.
The same is true for the Marine Corps with MAGTF EW and how F-35 will be sort of a centerpiece for MAGTF EW in that system of systems with Intrepid Tiger and other things there. And then the Air Force has their whole suite of electronic warfare capabilities that will be collaborative in nature with an F-35 as well.

Mr. Muradian: And let me ask you about your reminiscences on the Prowler, one of the coolest looking airplanes. One of “the” all-time coolest airplanes ever. Let’s just be honest. It is. And I think it’s a gorgeous looking airplane, by the way. Anybody who tries to make fun of it I think is totally wrong and doesn’t know anything about airplanes. Talk to us about why the airplane was so cool, what you liked about it, what was unique about it, and what were some of the challenges of flying something that at first blush does not look like the sleekest, most aerodynamic thing, but could still go through the air at a pretty decent rate.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: The Prowler’s a great jet. Really sad to see it go and the Marine Corps will give it an appropriate sundown coming up here next week.
The jet itself, a very, very capable jet, designed way back in the Vietnam era for just exactly what it does, airborne electronic attack, which is a very important thing to have on the battlefield. We’ve realized that for many, many years.
The uniqueness about the Prowler and what I liked the best about it was its adaptability and flexibility. Designed to go after the traditional surface-to-air missiles and the early warning radars to protect those striker aircraft. As the enemy has done different things, our adversaries in our global commitment around the world to be able to control the electromagnetic spectrum has changed. The Prowler’s mission has also adapted as well. So we did very, very different missions in Afghanistan and Iraq utilizing that jet in many different ways. Not just the standard electronic warfare, take down the IADS type of a mission.
The Prowler’s adaptability to that, to bring on things like communications jamming and even do some PsyOps in some cases and do other types of electronic warfare commanding the spectrum with that jet was really unique to that platform.
Again, sorry to see it go, but we’re bringing on a lot of those capabilities that we have in the Prowler and spreading them through a system of systems in the future systems that we have. So it’s really neat.

Mr. Muradian: Todd, thanks very much for all your time. I appreciate it. Best of luck on the program and looking forward to talking to you again.

Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: Yes, sir. Thank you. Appreciate it.
 

apumekaanikko

Kersantti
MUOKS. sori, huomasin, ettei tuossa Defense Newsin taulukossa ole paljonkaan järkeä, ainakaan A-version kohdalla.

Spacedaily puolestaan kertoo A-version hinnasta tutummin: "The U.S. Army's F-35A, for example, a variant of the plane with conventional takeoff and landing capabilities, will cost
$84.2 million per plane in Lot 12,
$79.2 million in Lot 13 and
$77.9 million in Lot 14.
The cost savings of the final lot, compared to Lot 11, is 12.8 percent per plane."

Plus-upsit ja ne settlementit ovat edelleen tietämättömissä.
/MUOKS


Defense News kirjoitteli lokakuun 29. seuraavaa:

"The total multi-year buying agreement includes 291 aircraft for the U.S. Services, 127 for F-35 International Partners, and 60 for F-35 Foreign Military Sales customers.

Price details include:

VariantLot 12Lot 13Lot 14%Reduction from Lot 11*
F-35A$82.4M$108.0M$103.1M12.8%
F-35B$79.2M$104.8M$98.1M12.3%
F-35C$77.9M$101.3M$94.4M13.2%
* Final prices for F-35 variants following adjustments for Congressional plus-ups and other contractual settlements are as follows: F-35A – $89.3M; F-35B – $115.5M; and $108.8M"

Meinaan, mitähän nuo salaperäiset plus-upsit sun settlementit sisältänevät? Kehityskustannuksia, materiaaleja?
 
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Einomies1

Ylipäällikkö
Hyvää settiä. Mm. tuo pisti silmään kuitenkin: Lt. Col. (Ret) Caruso: F-35, being as unique as it is, a stealth platform with robust mission capability on it, can sense the environment and can access battlespace that a lot of the traditional EW platforms can’t. The F-35 isn’t designed to be an electronic warfare or electronic attack platform. It’s a strike fighter aircraft.
 

rty19

Kersantti
 

tiedotusosasto

Ylipäällikkö
Tästä johtuen joskus mietitty ratkaisu jossa F35:n rinnalle otettaisiin toinen konetyyppi ns aselavetti- ja valvontatehtävään on tarpeeton. F35:n hinta on pudonnut riittävästi ja ulkoinen kuorma mukaanlukien kapasiteetti on vähintäinkin riittävä. Eikä sensorien ja linkkien yhteensovittamishuolia.
 
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Sardaukar

Ylipäällikkö
Lahjoittaja
Hetkinen. Nyt on graafikolla tai esimiehillä ollut vapaapäivä. Eihän tuollainen asuste menisi läpi edes Kreikan kansalliskaartissa.

Onkos 3 Squadronilla vieläkin tuo badge käytössä vai suhisiko sensorin tussi jo?
Aussit ei ole kovin politically correct-sakkia. Hyvää porukkaa niiden militaarissa.
 

magitsu

Ylipäällikkö
F-35 Lightning II: A 21st century concept
Posted on December 2, 2019 by Alan Stephenson
The F-35 Lightning II is not only a fifth-generation fighter aircraft, but a 21st century tooth-to-tail concept. I recently had the privilege to join a Canadian media trip sponsored by Lockheed Martin to visit the F-35 production facility in Fort Worth, Texas, as well as the 63rd Fighter Squadron, at Luke Air Force Base, Ariz., which is responsible for F-35 pilot training.
Industry executives and F-35 operators presented detailed briefings on the latest aircraft improvements, maintenance concepts and operational considerations, as well as a tour of the production line and an up-close look at the aircraft itself.
Without a doubt, the F-35 system represents a progressive leap in technology and life cycle management.

Design concept
Although some have questioned the very idea of a “fifth-generation” designation, the F-35 is the result of an evolutionary process in the design of low-observable (stealth) fighter aircraft for the United States Air Force (USAF). It draws upon the experiences of creating and operating the F-117 Nighthawk and the F-22 Raptor fighters.
The lessons learned went beyond simply enhancing aircraft performance; the F-35 ameliorates fundamental life cycle cost issues through leveraging emerging technologies and leading-edge concepts to maximize readiness, logistic and maintenance efficiencies. In effect, the F-35 is built for sustainment.
The fighter aircraft makes use of a modular avionics architecture with fusion technology, rather than a federated architecture where Line Replaceable Units (LRU or “black boxes”) are placed in a sequence. In this manner, maintainers no longer need to remove the first and second boxes to replace the third; they simply replace an easily accessible modular LRU.
Roughly 95 per cent of the LRUs are first line removeable and virtually all first line maintenance functions are accessible through the weapons bay doors, nose wheel well, and behind panels that can be opened and closed without causing any low observable skin repairs. Ease of maintenance is further achieved from simple redesigns such as a front-hinged canopy that facilitates ejection seat removal without the need to remove the canopy.
ALIS, the state-of-the-art Autonomic Logistics Information System, provides real-time digital information that also significantly reduces maintenance demands.
“ALIS integrates a broad range of capabilities including operations, maintenance, prognostics, supply chain, customer support services, training and technical data,” according to Lockheed Martin.
Maintenance staff can quickly determine the health of the aircraft upon landing through Prognostic Health Management (PHM) and quickly resolve any anomalies, increasing the serviceability rate and minimizing technician fault-finding time through fewer maintenance steps. PHM is a maintenance system that monitors the actual condition of an aircraft to decide what maintenance needs to be done.
As all aircraft fleet operators know, unscheduled maintenance and lack of spare parts increases manpower demands and decreases aircraft availability. ALIS is designed to reduce maintenance hours, increase readiness, and decrease labour related costs by offering greater control in sustainment functions and providing actionable information to military decision-makers.
  • Design features such as internal weapons carriage and pneumatic weapons ejection have reduced maintenance personnel hours. The F-35 clocks in at a reported six hours of maintenance per flight hour. USAF Photo
Cost drivers
From an initial reported cost of over US$100 million, the per-unit costs for the F-35 have fallen to US$77.9 million for Lot 14 fighters. The nine-nation co-operative development and the economies of scale of 12 current customers have greatly contributed to bringing life cycle costs closer to those of contemporary fourth-generation fighters.
Costs have been lowered in assembly of the aircraft through use of an automated production line, designed to produce 180 aircraft per year, which has seen a 75 per cent reduction in “touch-labour” since 2010. Each aircraft is personalized by purchase order, allowing all three models to be produced in tandem, and unlike other fighters, the jet is essentially combat-ready when it leaves the production facility, having complete indigenous offensive and defensive avionic suites.
With respect to sustainment, the F-16 had 24 different stovepipes supporting worldwide operations. ALIS logistics functions are networked with all F-35 users and supports a consolidated global supply chain that aggressively sources and produces the most cost-effective parts available, making them available as required and thereby minimizing costly inventory. A mandated Reliability and Maintainability (R&M) program has established metrics within automated processes designed to ensure constant systemic evaluation and facilitate continuous improvements that lower support costs and expedite fleet upgrades.

At a reported six hours of maintenance per flight hour, the F-35A is at the forefront of fighter operations. Conscious design features such as internal weapons carriage and the use of pneumatic (air pressure) weapons ejection rather than explosive cartridges has significantly reduced maintenance personnel hours required to clean and service fourth generation weapons delivery systems.
Another example of manpower savings occurs in routine checks on the fuel tanks and valves, where only one F-35 technician with a Portable Maintenance Aide (a laptop computer the technician connects to the F-35) is now required to conduct the same task that requires six maintainers to perform on the F-16. In manpower savings alone, anecdotal evidence suggests a 60 per cent reduction in personnel to perform routine maintenance functions.

Operations
At the flight line, significant changes have occurred to USAF military occupations and employment through innovative maintenance developments such as the Blended Operational Lightning Technician (BOLT) and the Lightning Integrated Technicians (LIT) programs.
The BOLT program combines six USAF technical trades into two streams. The Air Vehicle stream includes crew chiefs, fuels, and low observable technicians, while the Mission Systems stream focuses on avionics, weapons, and egress trades. This streaming not only economizes manpower but allows deployed operations to be conducted with a smaller personnel footprint. In addition, the LIT program was introduced to increase maintenance efficiencies and effectiveness by integrating these two streams into one co-ordinated team through establishing commonality in training and dedicating each team to a single aircraft.
The low observability of the F-35 is more than just a means to penetrate adversary defences; it is a “nose-to-tail” concept that increases performance and survivability from reduced drag and a low platform electromagnetic signature.
The embedded antennas in the radar absorbent skin, internal fuel tanks and weapons carriage, and full line-of-sight radar reflection blockage not only help define the F-35 as a fifth-generation fighter, but the addition of an advanced sensor suite with sensor fusion, an electro-optical Distributed Aperture System (DAS) electronic warfare suite and networked enabled operations cement the fifth-generation classification.
The Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar is a computer-controlled array antenna in which individual radar beams can be electronically steered to point in different directions without moving the antenna. This feature allows the F-35 to perform multiple functions such as detecting, tracking, and attacking airborne targets while simultaneously countering or attacking ground-based radar systems. When combined with the embedded sensors and advanced CNI (communications, navigation, identification) capabilities, the F-35 becomes an ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) as well as a command and control (C2) platform. These radical innovations elevate the F-35 from a tactical fighter to an operational asset with strategic value.
The F-35, with commonality shared amongst its three variants, can perform air-to-air, air-to-surface, electronic attack, ISR gathering, and localized C2 roles during a single mission. Tactically, the increase in situational awareness allows F-35 pilots to fly farther apart and with more individual freedom, changing the manner in which fourth-generation fighters are employed. Operationally, a flight of F-35s flying missions in the Arctic can also provide localized ISR and C2 functions in a region devoid of such assets.
Additionally, the F-35 requires fewer operational support platforms such as AWACS, Joint STARS and stand-off electronic warfare aircraft to conduct combat operations.
The F-35 could be considered a strategic asset that would allow Canada to offer NATO the flexibility of employing Canada’s fighter commitment strategically to support either the traditional northern flank or send its assets to central Europe. In either case, eight NATO nations will already have their own F-35 infrastructure in place to operationally facilitate Canadian integration.

Conclusion
Given the innovative design, leading-edge avionics suites, automated production line, networked sustainment program, globalized supply chain, and fundamental changes to how air forces conduct business, it is hard to argue that the F-35 is not only a fifth-generation fighter, but that the F-35 system is a transformational 21st century concept.
The F-35 is more than a simple multi-role fighter, it is multi-mission platform. There are indeed identified problems as the F-35 program matures that are part of the evolution of any new platform. However, with the weight of the U.S. government and 12 customer nations, the chances are that these challenges will be resolved satisfactorily.
With the cost to own an F-35 fighter in the same range as other fighter aircraft on the market today, the real discriminators are in the costs to operate and the value-added to military operations.

Alan Stephenson (Col ret’d) holds a PhD from Carleton University and is a former CF-188 pilot with 3,600 hours flying fighters. He is currently an aviation consultant and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
 
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