Israel

Hämärä homma tämä on. Täytyy olla eilen tai aiemmin tullut viirus, joka on rouskuttanut koneella aikansa ennen esiin tuloa. Nyt on sitten koneen kaikki tiedostot salattu ja rahaa pitäisi maksaa avaamiseksi. :mad: Onneksi ei ole mitään tärkeätä koneella. Tuo on kyllä ilkeä pöpö.
Ei millään pahalla, mutta KANNATTAISIKO pitää se internet-selain, käyttöjärjestelmä, java, flash ja muut kilkkeet PÄIVITETTYINÄ ja olla suorittamatta tiedostoja, joiden turvallisuudesta ei voi olla varma? Ei tuollainen koneelle "itsestään" hyppää. Kyllä se vaatii käyttäjältä melkoista typeryyttä että saa koneensa saastutettua.
 
Mielenkiintoinen artikkeli Mike Hararista:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/mike-harari-daring-innovative-mossad-commander-dead-at-88/

Ja teemaan liittyen:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-mossad-wants-you/

Israel’s legendary intelligence agency, long shrouded in mystery, is trying to give the future spymasters of tomorrow a hand in the recruitment process: On Monday, it announced the launch of a sleek new website in order to draw new candidates to its ranks.

The multilingual site, with tabs offering versions in Hebrew, English, Russian, Arabic, Persian and French, directs potential agents to an application page and offers a series of inspirational Zionist quotes such as “History is not written, history is created” (David Ben-Gurion).
 
Viimeksi muokattu:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-if-isis-attack-us-they-will-lose-outright-1468777

Tää on yks syy miks tykkään näistä tyypeistä..."because fuck yea, we can" :D

When asked about Hezbollah and its stock of attack drones, Gantz says the militant group has plenty of drones through Iran, and while he's not worried about shooting down planes, his forces are preparing for an all out defensive and a possible takeover of Lebanon.

"We are preparing for the next war, which I have spoken of on multiple occasions. The North poses a bigger challenge. It will require a strong home front, a hard fighting battlefront, and national unity, as we saw during Operation Protective Edge, and we will win.
"We will take Lebanon and knock it back 70 or 80 years, in all areas, and we'll see how that plays out. And it could also turn out that we'll need to capture Lebanese territory. There are no surprises here, but rather things we are preparing for, year after year, season after season, staring the challenge.

Tuo ei ole ihan turha uhkaus.
 
Pistetään vähän Pat Condellia. Omasta judeo-natsi-mielestä mies puhuu asiaa.

 
Artikkeli Israelin ja Yhdysvaltojen huonontuvista suhteista.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nshit-say-us-officials-in-explosive-interview

Itse kiinni eniten huomiota tähän kohtaan... onko Yhdysvallat Obaman johdolla hyväksymässä ydinaseilla varustautuneen Iranin?
In comments designed to further sting Netanyahu, who has expended huge diplomatic effort on attempting to derail any deal with Iran over its nuclear programme, another official suggested the White House no longer believed Netanyahu would launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran to prevent it obtaining nuclear weapons.

“It’s too late for him to do anything,” the official said. “Two, three years ago, this was a possibility. But ultimately he couldn’t bring himself to pull the trigger. It was a combination of our pressure and his own unwillingness to do anything dramatic. Now it’s too late.”
 
Kuumia tunteita Jerusalemissa:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/pm-blames-abbas-for-inciting-shooting-of-jewish-activist/

Ja noista huononevista suhteista:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/us-anger-at-netanyahu-said-red-hot-as-ties-hit-new-low/

Itse voin sanoa, että todennäköisesto Obama on kaikkien aikojen epäsuosituin USA pressa Israelissa. Ainoa nykyisen hallinnon jäsen, josta pidetään vielä vähemmän on ulkoministeri Kerry. Kaverista käytetään sellaisia sanoja, joita ei ihan jokainen diplomaatti punastumatta voi sanoa. :D
 
Hamas kaivaa uusia tunneleita vähän aikaa sitten tuhottujen tilalle.
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http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...lding-infiltration-tunnels-into-Israel-379206
 
The largest-ever protest by Israeli top brass has taken place, with at least 105 retired generals and intelligence chiefs writing a letter to premier Benjamin Netanyahu, urging him to “initiate a diplomatic process” for peace with Palestine.

"We, the undersigned, reserve IDF commanders and retired police officers, who have fought in Israel’s military campaigns, know firsthand of the heavy and painful price exacted by wars…. Here we are again sending our children out onto the battlefield, watching them don their uniforms and combat vests and go out to fight in Operation Protective Edge,” the letter read.

A few of those who signed the letter told the state Mako-Channel 2 News that, in their opinion, Israel had the strength and means to come to a two-state roadmap to get out of the current crisis.
http://rt.com/news/202047-israel-generals-spy-peace/

Forty-three veterans of one of Israel’s most secretive military intelligence units – many of them still active reservists – have signed a public letter refusing to serve in operations involving the occupied Palestinian territories because of the widespread surveillance of innocent residents.

The signatories include officers, former instructors and senior NCOs from the country’s equivalent of America’s NSA or Britain’s GCHQ, known as Unit 8200 – or in Hebrew as Yehida Shmoneh-Matayim.

They allege that the “all-encompassing” intelligence the unit gathers on Palestinians – much of it concerning innocent people – is used for “political persecution” and to create divisions in Palestinian society.

The largest intelligence unit in the Israeli military, Unit 8200 intercepts electronic communications including email, phone calls and social media in addition to targeting military and diplomatic traffic.

The signatories say, however, that a large part of their work was unrelated to Israel’s security or defence, but appeared designed to perpetuate the occupation by “infiltrating” and “controlling” all aspects of Palestinian life.

Written in uncompromising language the letter states: “We, veterans of Unit 8200, reserve soldiers both past and present, declare that we refuse to take part in actions against Palestinians and refuse to continue serving as tools in deepening the military control over the Occupied Territories.”

They add: “The Palestinian population under military rule is completely exposed to espionage and surveillance by Israeli intelligence. It is used for political persecution and to create divisions within Palestinian society by recruiting collaborators and driving parts of Palestinian society against itself. In many cases, intelligence prevents defendants from receiving a fair trial in military courts, as the evidence against them is not revealed.

Accompanying the letter – published in the Israeli media on Friday, and organised several months before the recent Gaza war – are a series of testimonies provided by the signatories to Yedioth Ahronoth and shared with the Guardian.

A common complaint, made in both the testimonies and in interviews given by some of the signatories, including to the Guardian this week, is that some of the activities the soldiers were asked to engage in had more in common with the intelligence services of oppressive regimes than of a democracy.

Among allegations made in the statements are that:

A significant proportion of the unit’s Palestinian objectives “are innocent people unconnected to any military activity. They interest the unit for other reasons, usually without having the slightest idea that they’re intelligence targets.” According to the testimonies those targets were not treated any differently from terrorists.

• Personnel were instructed to keep any damaging details of Palestinians’ lives they came across, including information on sexual preferences, infidelities, financial problems or family illnesses that could be “used to extort/blackmail the person and turn them into a collaborator”.

• Former members claim some intelligence gathered by the unit was not collected in the service of the Israeli state but in pursuit of the “agendas” of individual Israeli politicians. In one incident, for which no details have been provided, one signatory recalls: “Regarding one project in particular, many of us were shocked as we were exposed to it. Clearly it was not something we as soldiers were supposed to do. The information was almost directly transferred to political players and not to other sections of the security system.”

• Unit members swapped intercepts they gathered involving “sex talk” for their own entertainment.

The letter has been sent to the chief of staff of Israel’s armed forces and also the head of military intelligence.

Unit 8200 is one of the most prestigious in the Israeli public’s mind, with many who serve in it going on to high-flying jobs after their military service, many in Israel’s hi-tech sector.

According to an article this year in Haaretz, former unit members include a supreme court justice, the director general of the finance ministry, an internationally successful author, the chief executive of one of Israel’s largest accountancy firms and the economy ministry’s chief scientist.

Operating a signals interception base, the unit is also at the front of Israel’s cyberwar capabilities. According to some reports – never confirmed – it was involved in developing the Stuxnet virus used to attack Iran’s nuclear programme.

Most of those who signed the letter have served in the unit in the last decade – as recently as three years ago in full-time military service – with the majority still on the active reserve list, meaning they can be called up at any time.

All of those who spoke to the Guardian said they were “highly motivated” to join the unit and had volunteered to serve extra time in it beyond their national service.

Although there have been “refusenik” letters before – most famously more than a decade ago when a group of reserve pilots refused to participate in targeted assassinations – such detailed complaints from within Israel’s intelligence services are highly unusual.

Three of those involved, two sergeants and a captain who gave interviews to the Guardian and a handful of other foreign media before the letter was released this week, were at pains to make clear they were not interested in disclosing state secrets. They had engaged a high-profile lawyer to avoid breaking Israeli law – including by identifying themselves in public. Copies of the letter sent to their unit commander, however, use their full names.

Those involved told the Guardian they were proud of some of the work they had done, which they believed had contributed to Israel’s security.

In their interviews, they described a culture of impunity where soldiers were actively discouraged in training lessons from questioning the legality of orders, and of being deliberately misled by commanders about the circumstances of a case in which one member of their unit refused to cooperate in the bombing of a building with civilians in it in retaliation for an attack in Israel.

They added that there were in effect “no rules” governing which Palestinians could be targeted and that the only restraint on their intelligence gathering in the occupied territories was “resources”.

“In intelligence – in Israel intelligence regarding Palestinians – they don’t really have rights,” said Nadav, 26, a sergeant, who is now a philosophy and literature student in Tel Aviv. “Nobody asks that question. It’s not [like] Israeli citizens, where if you want to gather information about them you need to go to court.”

He said: “The intelligence gathering about Palestinians is not clean. When you rule a population that does not have political rights, laws like we have, [then] the nature of this regime of ruling over people, especially when you do it for many years, [is that] it forces you to take control or infiltrate every aspect of their life.”

“D”, a 29-year-old captain who served for eight years, added: “[That] question is one of the messages that we feel it is very important to get across mostly to the Israeli public.

“That is a very common misconception about intelligence … when we were enlisting in the military [we thought] our job is going to be minimising violence, minimising loss of lives, and that made the moral side of it feel much easier.”

He added: “What the IDF does in the occupied territories is rule another people. One of the things you need to do is defend yourself from them, but you also need to oppress the population.

“You need to weaken the politics. You need to strengthen and deepen your control of Palestinian society so that the [Israeli] state can remain [there] in the long term. We can’t talk about specifics … [but] intelligence is used to apply pressure to people to make them cooperate with Israel.

“It’s important to say, the reason I decided to refuse – and I decided to refuse long before the recent [Gaza] operation. It was when I realised that what I was doing was the same job that the intelligence services of every undemocratic regime are doing.

“This realisation was what made me [realise] personally that I’m part of this large mechanism that is trying to defend or perpetuate its presence in the occupied territories.”

The last major refusenik episode in Israel to grab the public’s attention was in 2002 when 27 reserve pilots published a letter refusing to fly assassination sorties over Gaza after 14 civilians, including children, were killed alongside Salah Shehade, the leader of Hamas’s military wing, in a bombing.

Nadav made a reference to the killing – and the outcry that surrounded it. “When you look at what happened this summer, when building after building were destroyed and the inhabitants and hundreds of innocent people were killed and no one raised an eyebrow, as opposed to just one decade ago when the killing of a family of a commander of Hamas shocked people. It was a huge story in Israel.”

Replying to the refusenik letter and the allegations, a spokesman for the Israel Defence Forces criticised the soldiers for making their complaints public, and attempted to cast doubt on the claims.

“The intelligence corps has no record that the specific violations in the letter ever took place. Immediately turning to the press instead of to their officers or relevant authorities is suspicious and raises doubts as to the seriousness of the claims.

“Regarding claims of harm caused to civilians, the IDF maintains a rigorous process which takes into account civilian presence before authorising strikes against targets.”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...servists-refuse-serve-palestinian-territories
 
Viimeksi muokattu:
Hamas otti vastuun tänään tapahtuneesta terrori-iskusta.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/05/palestinian-israeli-car-_n_6106222.html

In the immediate aftermath of the incident, the body of the driver was still visible lying across the train tracks of the Jerusalem light railway, a thin trail of blood on the pavement.

Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, said Akri was a member of the group and that his brother was in exile in Turkey after being released in a 2011 prisoner swap.

Hamas official Fawzi Barhoum praised the “glorious operation” and called for more such attacks.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/05/car-hits-pedestrians-east-jerusalem-israel-police
 
Pertti Rönkkö:

Jälleen ovat ristiretket nousseet saksalaisessa keskustelussa selitykseksi ääri-islamilaisten väkivallalle. Monet sanovat tässä yhteydessä, että jos menneitä muistellaan, niin muistellaan sitten rehellisesti. Ristiretket olivat aikoinaan vastareaktio islamin väkivaltaiseen Jerusalemin valtaamiseen. Yhtä monet sanovat, että on korkein aika siirtyä tähän aikaan ja todeta, että väkivalta on väkivaltaa ja tuomittavaa, eikä sitä voi perustella millään historiallisella tapahtumalla.

Laitan tähän yhden suosikkibiisin:

 
Sinänsä erikoinen valinta maan nimeksi, koska arabian kielessä ei ole p-kirjainta...
 
Mikä aikataulu Ruotsilla on Palestiinan tunnustamisessa?

Itse kiinni eniten huomiota tähän kohtaan... onko Yhdysvallat Obaman johdolla hyväksymässä ydinaseilla varustautuneen Iranin?
On muuten aika mielenkiintoista, että Yhdysvalloissa asuvat juutalaiset äänestävät oikeastaan vain demokraatteja, ja luonnollisesti tämän myötä Obamaakin äänestivät sankoin joukoin.
 
Mikä aikataulu Ruotsilla on Palestiinan tunnustamisessa?


On muuten aika mielenkiintoista, että Yhdysvalloissa asuvat juutalaiset äänestävät oikeastaan vain demokraatteja, ja luonnollisesti tämän myötä Obamaakin äänestivät sankoin joukoin.

Yhdysvaltain juutalaiset ovat aika joukolla vasemmistolaisia ja eivät välttämättä millään tavalla edes sionisteja.

Mielestäni erinomainen kommentti USA:n ilmavoimissa aikoinaan palvelleelta juutalaiselta:

But that's only true if you assume that Jewish = pro-Israel. Once you get past that understandable misperception, the Democrats deliver what many (but certainly not all) Jews want, which is some combination of cultural Marxism and ample funds for the universities, Wall Street, etc. where one tends to find lots of Jews.

In general, political analyses that are based on the belief that people don't know what is good for them are mistaken. I think that a better way to analyze politics is to think that when people vote in ways that don't make sense to you, then you probably don't understand what is really motivating them.

Let me put it another way. There is an unspoken belief that Israel is really a large synagogue with a flag, Merkava tanks and F-15s. I think that it is much more insightful to think of it as a Jewish version of Texas. That's obviously an inexact analogy, but there is something to it.
 
Niin no. Suomi on yleensä tunnustanut valtiot, kun ne ovat täyttäneet valtiolle asetettavat kriteerit. Palestiinan valtion muodostamisen pitäisi edeltää tunnustamista. Se taas edellyttää ratkaisua, joka toimii. Osa ratkaisua on varmaan se, että palestiinalaiset tunnustavat Israelin valtion olemassaolon.

Mitä Ruotsiin tulee: Hamas on mukana nykyisessä "palestiinalaishallituksessa" ja edelleenkin EU:n mukaan terroristijärjestö. Punavihreä Ruotsi hyväksyy siis hallitukset, joissa on mukana terroristeja. Omassa maassaan Ruotsin hallitus on kieltäytynyt kaikesta yhteistyöstä ruotsidemokraattien kanssa, vaikka luulisi heidän Hamasin rinnalla olevan pyhäkoululaisia... :)

Laillisuusnäkökulmasta presidentti Niinistön linjaus on järkevä. Miten tunnustetaan valtio, jota ei ole edes perustettu? Mutta syvimmältään kyse on politiikasta ja diplomatiasta.

Tunnustajia kuitenkin on. Tässä kartta:


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Tuossa on ulkopolitist-lehden jaarittelua:

Mikäli kahden valtion malli toteutuu, kysymyksenä ei olekaan pitäisikö Palestiinan valtio tunnustaa, tästä on laaja yhteisymmärrys, vaan milloin se kannattaa tehdä. Tunnustamisen voi tehdä vain kerran ja päätöksen ajankohdalla on Suomen näkökulmasta vaikutusta ainakin neljään eri asiaan: 1) suhde Palestiinaan, 2) suhde Israeliin, 3) rauhan tukeminen, 4) vaikutus muihin EU maihin.

Suomi tunnusti Israelin valtion 11.6.1948, alle kuukausi sen jälkeen kun se oli julistautunut itsenäiseksi ja vain kaksi viikkoa tunnustuspyynnön jättämisen jälkeen. Vain kymmenen maata oli tunnustanut Israelin ennen Suomea ja useimmat odottivat vuoteen 1949, jolloin sota oli päättynyt ja Israelissa oli järjestetty demokraattiset parlamenttivaalit. Tällöin Suomikin antoi lopulta myös de jure tunnustuksen. Silti Israelissa muistettiin pitkään, että Suomen alkuperäinen tunnustus oli tullut jo hyvin varhain ja tapaus oli omiaan luomaan pohjaa hyville kahdenvälisille suhteille.

Nämä Montevideon sopimuksen valtioksi hyväksymisen edellytykset täyttyivät Israelin kohdalla jo 1948:

http://www.cfr.org/sovereignty/montevideo-convention-rights-duties-states/p15897
 
Moni Yhdysvalloissa asuva juutalainen varmasti myös kokee, että molemmat puolueet antavat tarpeeksi suuren tuen Israelille, jolloinka sillä ei ole merkitystä puolueen valinnan kannalta.
 
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