Uutisia Yhdysvalloista

Jotain kuivattua munajauhetta ja pastöroitua munanvalkuaista voisi ehkä viedäkin mutta laivarahti sellaisenaan ei ehkä kannata.
No Stubb voi minun puolestani lähteä vienninedistämismatkalle. Pahimmassa tapauksessa saa vain haukut siitä ettei ole kiitollinen Yhdysvaltojen tuesta toisessa maailmansodassa.
Näen jo silmissäni, miten Laitilan munakeisarit tekevät "diilin" ja Turkuun tulee C-5-kuljetuskone, johon mahtuu 20 miljoonaa kananmunaa kerralla.
 
Jotain kuivattua munajauhetta ja pastöroitua munanvalkuaista voisi ehkä viedäkin mutta laivarahti sellaisenaan ei ehkä kannata.
No Stubb voi minun puolestani lähteä vienninedistämismatkalle. Pahimmassa tapauksessa saa vain haukut siitä ettei ole kiitollinen Yhdysvaltojen tuesta toisessa maailmansodassa.
Toi olis kyllä jo liikaa, että pitäisi olla kiitollinen USAn ryssälle antamasta avusta jonka voimalla hyökkäsivät suomeen. Mutfa rumppi ja muut idiootit ei juuri faktoista perusta.

Kananmunia vois kyä toimittaa jenkeille. Vuoden vanhoja ilmatiputuksena.
 
12 munan kennon hinta on parissa vuodessa noussut 2 --> 6 dollariin.


Tässä olisi kyllä hyvä tilaisuus irtopisteiden kalasteluun Trumpin hallinnolta! Helpotetaan amerikkalaisen ruokakorin hintaa ja saadaan sivutuotteena munaviennillä Suomen maatalous nousuun. Possua kyllä viedään Kiinaan, mutta ketään ei kiinnosta USA:n markkina?
Ilmeisesti kananmunien hinnannousu itsessään on jenkeille oikeasti tosi huono homma,
ei siis pelkästään esimerkki yleisestä hintatason noususta.

Itselle taas se voisi toimia esimerkkinä huolestuttavasta elämän yleisestä kallistumisesta,
mutta noin muuten en varmaan huomaisi asiaa, vaikka kanamunien hinta kymmenkertaistuisi Suomessa.

Tai no, aiemmin olisin kyllä huomannut, kun söin pullaa ku pieni apina,
ja kananmunien hinnan nousu olisi vaikuttanut suoraan tämän minulle tärkeimmän elintarvikkeen hintaan.
Mutta nyt yritän tiputtaa painoa ja jätin pullan pois.
 
Ilmeisesti kananmunien hinnannousu itsessään on jenkeille oikeasti tosi huono homma,
ei siis pelkästään esimerkki yleisestä hintatason noususta.

Itselle taas se voisi toimia esimerkkinä huolestuttavasta elämän yleisestä kallistumisesta,
mutta noin muuten en varmaan huomaisi asiaa, vaikka kanamunien hinta kymmenkertaistuisi Suomessa.

Tai no, aiemmin olisin kyllä huomannut, kun söin pullaa ku pieni apina,
ja kananmunien hinnan nousu olisi vaikuttanut suoraan tämän minulle tärkeimmän elintarvikkeen hintaan.
Mutta nyt yritän tiputtaa painoa ja jätin pullan pois.
Ei tullut mieleen, että kananmunia saatetaan käyttää vähän muuallakin kuin pullataikinassa ;)
 
Niin erikoinen artikkeli, että muutamaan kertaan pohdin viitsinkö tänne laittaa. Toisaalta, erikoista on USA:n nykyhallinnon toimintakin.

NYT:in lähteiden mukaan, Musk vierailee perjantaina Pentagonissa, jossa hänelle esitellään USA:n suunnitelmia Kiinan kanssa käytävän sodan varalle. Artikkelissa arvellaan mahdollisena syynä tälläiseen vain äärimmäisen harvoille avattavaan tiedon jakoon, olevan DOGE:n tulevat Pentagoniin kohdistuvat säästötoimenpiteet. Muskin nykybisnekset SpaceX:n kautta Pentagoniin eivät ole merkitykseltään vähäisiä, kuten eivät ole taloudelliset sitoumukset Kiinan suuntaankaan. Mikä saattaisi eturistiriidalta kuulostaa.

NYT:in artikkelin julkaisun jälkeen DoD:in tiedottaja kertoi Muskin käynnin olevan vain vierailu.

Musk Set to Get Access to Top-Secret U.S. Plan for Potential War With China​

Giving Elon Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets is a major expansion of his role as an adviser to President Trump and highlights his conflicts of interest.


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President Trump with Elon Musk and Mr. Musk’s son X, at the White House this month. It is unclear what the reasoning is for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan MacMaggie Haberman
By Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan Mac and Maggie Haberman
  • March 20, 2025Updated 9:03 p.m. ET


The Pentagon is scheduled on Friday to brief Elon Musk on the U.S. military’s plan for any war that might break out with China, two U.S. officials said on Thursday.

Another official said the briefing will be China focused, without providing additional details. A fourth official confirmed Mr. Musk was to be at the Pentagon on Friday, but offered no details.

Providing Mr. Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets would be a dramatic expansion of his already extensive role as an adviser to President Trump and leader of his effort to slash spending and purge the government of people and policies they oppose.

It would also bring into sharp relief the questions about Mr. Musk’s conflicts of interest as he ranges widely across the federal bureaucracy while continuing to run businesses that are major government contractors. In this case, Mr. Musk, the billionaire chief executive of both SpaceX and Tesla, is a leading supplier to the Pentagon and has extensive financial interests in China.

Pentagon war plans, known in military jargon as O-plans or operational plans, are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets. If a foreign country was to learn how the United States planned to fight a war against them, it could reinforce its defenses and address its weaknesses, making the plans far less likely to succeed.

The top-secret briefing for the China war plan has about 20 to 30 slides that lay out how the United States would fight such a conflict. It covers the plan beginning with the indications and warning of a threat from China to various options on what Chinese targets to hit, over what time period, that would be presented to Mr. Trump for decisions, according to officials with knowledge of the plan.

A White House spokesman did not respond to an email seeking comment about the purpose of the visit, how it came about, whether Mr. Trump was aware of it, and whether the visit raises questions of conflicts of interest. The White House has not said whether Mr. Trump signed a conflicts of interest waiver for Mr. Musk.

After The Times published this article, Sean Parnell, the chief Defense Department spokesman, said in a statement: “The Defense Department is excited to welcome Elon Musk to the Pentagon on Friday. He was invited by Secretary Hegseth and is just visiting.”

The meeting reflects the extraordinary dual role played by Mr. Musk, who is both the world’s wealthiest man and has been given broad authority by Mr. Trump.

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Mr. Musk has a security clearance, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth can determine who has a need to know about the plan. A choice of sharing lots of technical details with Mr. Musk, however, is another matter.
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has already received part of the China war plan and is expected to present the information to Mr. Musk alongside top U.S. government and military officials.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times
Mr. Hegseth; Adm. Christopher W. Grady, the acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and Adm. Samuel J. Paparo, the head of the military’s Indo-Pacific Command, are set to present Mr. Musk with details on the U.S. plan to counter China in the event of military conflict between the two countries, the officials said.

Operational plans for major contingencies, like a war with China, are extremely difficult for people without extensive military planning experience to understand. The technical nature is why presidents are typically presented with the broad contours of a plan, rather than the actual details of documents. How many details Mr. Musk will want or need to hear is unclear.

Mr. Hegseth received part of the China war plan briefing last week and another part on Wednesday, according to officials familiar with the plan.

It was unclear what the impetus was for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing. He is not in the military chain of command, nor is he an official adviser to Mr. Trump on military matters involving China.

But there is a possible reason Mr. Musk might need to know aspects of the war plan. If Mr. Musk and his team of cost cutters from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, want to trim the Pentagon budget in a responsible way, they may need to know what weapons systems the Pentagon plans to use in a fight with China.

Take, for example, aircraft carriers. Cutting back on future aircraft carriers would save billions of dollars, money that could be spent on drones or other weaponry. But if the U.S. war strategy relies on using aircraft carriers in innovative ways that would surprise China, mothballing existing ships or stopping production on future ships could cripple that plan.

Planning for a war with China has dominated Pentagon thinking for decades, well before a possible confrontation with Beijing became more conventional wisdom on Capitol Hill. The United States has built its Air Forces, Navy and Space Forces — and even more recently its Marines and Army forces — with a possible fight against China in mind.

Critics have said the military has invested too much in big expensive systems like fighter jets or aircraft carriers and too little in midrange drones and coastal defenses. But for Mr. Musk to evaluate how to reorient Pentagon spending, he would want to know what the military intends to use and for what purpose.

Mr. Musk has already called for the Pentagon to stop buying certain high-priced items like F-35 fighter jets, manufactured by one of his space-launch competitors, Lockheed Martin, in a program that costs the Pentagon more than $12 billion a year.
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Mr. Musk’s company SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has suggested that it might target SpaceX assets if a war with China were to break out.Credit...Valerie Plesch for The New York Times
Yet Mr. Musk’s extensive business interests make his access to strategic secrets about China a serious problem in the view of ethics experts. Officials have said revisions to the war plans against China have focused on upgrading the plans for defending against space warfare. China has developed a suite of weapons that can attack U.S. satellites.

Mr. Musk’s constellations of low-earth orbit Starlink satellites, which provide data and communications services from space, are considered more resilient than traditional satellites. But he could have an interest in learning about whether or not the United States could defend his satellites in a war with China.

Participating in a classified briefing on the China threat with some of the most senior Pentagon and U.S. military officials would be a tremendously valuable opportunity for any defense contractor seeking to sell services to the military.

Mr. Musk could gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.

Contractors working on relevant Pentagon projects generally do have access to certain limited war planning documents, but only once war plans are approved, said Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on defense strategy. Individual executives rarely if ever get exclusive access to top Pentagon officials for a briefing like this, Mr. Harrison said.

“Musk at a war-planning briefing?” he said. “Giving the CEO of one defense company unique access seems like this could be grounds for a contract protest and is a real conflict of interest.”

Mr. Musk’s SpaceX is already being paid billions of dollars by the Pentagon and federal spy agencies to help the United States build new military satellite networks to try to confront rising military threats from China. SpaceX launches most of these military satellites for the Pentagon on its Falcon 9 rockets, which take off from launchpads SpaceX has set up at military bases in Florida and California.

The company separately has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars by the Pentagon that now relies heavily on SpaceX’s Starlink satellite communications network for military personnel to transmit data worldwide.

In 2024, SpaceX was granted about $1.6 billion in Air Force contracts. That does not include classified spending with SpaceX by the National Reconnaissance Office, which has hired the company to build it a new constellation of low-earth orbit satellites to spy on China, Russia and other threats.

Mr. Trump has already proposed that the United States build a new system the military is calling Golden Dome, a space-based missile defense system that recalls what President Ronald Reagan tried to deliver. (The so-called Star Wars system Mr. Reagan had in mind was never fully developed.)

Perceived missile threats from China — be it nuclear weapons or hypersonic missiles or cruise missiles — are a major factor that led Mr. Trump to sign an executive order recently instructing the Pentagon to start work on Golden Dome.
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The site of SpaceX Starbase in Boca Chica, Texas. The Pentagon briefing could help Elon Musk gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.Credit...Callaghan O'Hare for The New York Times
Even starting to plan and build the first components of the system will cost tens of billions of dollars, according to Pentagon officials, and most likely create large business opportunities for SpaceX, which already provides rocket launches, satellite structures, and space-based data communications systems, all of which will be required for Golden Dome.

Separately, Mr. Musk has been the focus of an investigation by the Pentagon’s inspector general over questions about his compliance with his top-secret security clearance.

The investigations started last year after some SpaceX employees complained to government agencies that Mr. Musk and others at SpaceX were not properly reporting contacts or conversations with foreign leaders.

Air Force officials, before the end of the Biden administration, started their own review, after Senate Democrats asked questions about Mr. Musk and asserted that he was not complying with security clearance requirements.

The Air Force, in fact, had denied a request by Mr. Musk for an even higher level of security clearance, known as Special Access Program, which is reserved for extremely sensitive classified programs, citing potential security risks associated with the billionaire.

In fact, SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has said it considers the company to be an extension of the U.S. military.

“Starlink Militarization and Its Impact on Global Strategic Stability” was the headline of one publication released last year from China’s National University of Defense Technology, according to a translation of the paper prepared by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Mr. Musk and Tesla, an electric vehicle company he controls, are heavily reliant on China, which houses one of the auto maker’s flagship factories in Shanghai. Unveiled in 2019, the state-of-the-art facility was built with special permission from the Chinese government, and now accounts for more than half of Tesla’s global deliveries. Last year, the company said in financial filings that it had a $2.8 billion loan agreement with lenders in China for production expenditures.

In public, Mr. Musk has avoided criticizing Beijing and signaled his willingness to work with the Chinese Communist Party. In 2022, he wrote a column for the magazine of the Cyberspace Administration of China, the country’s censorship agency, trumpeting his companies and their missions of improving humanity.

That same year, the billionaire told The Financial Times that China should be given some control over Taiwan by making a “special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable,” an assertion that angered politicians of the independent island. In that same interview, he also noted that Beijing sought assurances that he would not sell Starlink in China.

The following year at a tech conference, Mr. Musk called the democratic island “an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China,” and compared the Taiwan-China situation to Hawaii and the United States.

On X, the social platform he owns, Mr. Musk has long used his account to praise China. He has said the country is “by far” the world leader in electric vehicles and solar power, and has commended its space program for being “far more advanced than people realize.” He has encouraged more people to visit the country, and posited openly about an “inevitable” Russia-China alliance.
 
Niin erikoinen artikkeli, että muutamaan kertaan pohdin viitsinkö tänne laittaa. Toisaalta, erikoista on USA:n nykyhallinnon toimintakin.

NYT:in lähteiden mukaan, Musk vierailee perjantaina Pentagonissa, jossa hänelle esitellään USA:n suunnitelmia Kiinan kanssa käytävän sodan varalle. Artikkelissa arvellaan mahdollisena syynä tälläiseen vain äärimmäisen harvoille avattavaan tiedon jakoon, olevan DOGE:n tulevat Pentagoniin kohdistuvat säästötoimenpiteet. Muskin nykybisnekset SpaceX:n kautta Pentagoniin eivät ole merkitykseltään vähäisiä, kuten eivät ole taloudelliset sitoumukset Kiinan suuntaankaan. Mikä saattaisi eturistiriidalta kuulostaa.

NYT:in artikkelin julkaisun jälkeen DoD:in tiedottaja kertoi Muskin käynnin olevan vain vierailu.

Musk Set to Get Access to Top-Secret U.S. Plan for Potential War With China​

Giving Elon Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets is a major expansion of his role as an adviser to President Trump and highlights his conflicts of interest.


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President Trump with Elon Musk and Mr. Musk’s son X, at the White House this month. It is unclear what the reasoning is for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan MacMaggie Haberman
By Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan Mac and Maggie Haberman
  • March 20, 2025Updated 9:03 p.m. ET


The Pentagon is scheduled on Friday to brief Elon Musk on the U.S. military’s plan for any war that might break out with China, two U.S. officials said on Thursday.

Another official said the briefing will be China focused, without providing additional details. A fourth official confirmed Mr. Musk was to be at the Pentagon on Friday, but offered no details.

Providing Mr. Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets would be a dramatic expansion of his already extensive role as an adviser to President Trump and leader of his effort to slash spending and purge the government of people and policies they oppose.

It would also bring into sharp relief the questions about Mr. Musk’s conflicts of interest as he ranges widely across the federal bureaucracy while continuing to run businesses that are major government contractors. In this case, Mr. Musk, the billionaire chief executive of both SpaceX and Tesla, is a leading supplier to the Pentagon and has extensive financial interests in China.

Pentagon war plans, known in military jargon as O-plans or operational plans, are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets. If a foreign country was to learn how the United States planned to fight a war against them, it could reinforce its defenses and address its weaknesses, making the plans far less likely to succeed.

The top-secret briefing for the China war plan has about 20 to 30 slides that lay out how the United States would fight such a conflict. It covers the plan beginning with the indications and warning of a threat from China to various options on what Chinese targets to hit, over what time period, that would be presented to Mr. Trump for decisions, according to officials with knowledge of the plan.

A White House spokesman did not respond to an email seeking comment about the purpose of the visit, how it came about, whether Mr. Trump was aware of it, and whether the visit raises questions of conflicts of interest. The White House has not said whether Mr. Trump signed a conflicts of interest waiver for Mr. Musk.

After The Times published this article, Sean Parnell, the chief Defense Department spokesman, said in a statement: “The Defense Department is excited to welcome Elon Musk to the Pentagon on Friday. He was invited by Secretary Hegseth and is just visiting.”

The meeting reflects the extraordinary dual role played by Mr. Musk, who is both the world’s wealthiest man and has been given broad authority by Mr. Trump.

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Mr. Musk has a security clearance, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth can determine who has a need to know about the plan. A choice of sharing lots of technical details with Mr. Musk, however, is another matter.
Image
20dc-musk-pentagon-gwbt-articleLarge.jpg

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has already received part of the China war plan and is expected to present the information to Mr. Musk alongside top U.S. government and military officials.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times
Mr. Hegseth; Adm. Christopher W. Grady, the acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and Adm. Samuel J. Paparo, the head of the military’s Indo-Pacific Command, are set to present Mr. Musk with details on the U.S. plan to counter China in the event of military conflict between the two countries, the officials said.

Operational plans for major contingencies, like a war with China, are extremely difficult for people without extensive military planning experience to understand. The technical nature is why presidents are typically presented with the broad contours of a plan, rather than the actual details of documents. How many details Mr. Musk will want or need to hear is unclear.

Mr. Hegseth received part of the China war plan briefing last week and another part on Wednesday, according to officials familiar with the plan.

It was unclear what the impetus was for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing. He is not in the military chain of command, nor is he an official adviser to Mr. Trump on military matters involving China.

But there is a possible reason Mr. Musk might need to know aspects of the war plan. If Mr. Musk and his team of cost cutters from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, want to trim the Pentagon budget in a responsible way, they may need to know what weapons systems the Pentagon plans to use in a fight with China.

Take, for example, aircraft carriers. Cutting back on future aircraft carriers would save billions of dollars, money that could be spent on drones or other weaponry. But if the U.S. war strategy relies on using aircraft carriers in innovative ways that would surprise China, mothballing existing ships or stopping production on future ships could cripple that plan.

Planning for a war with China has dominated Pentagon thinking for decades, well before a possible confrontation with Beijing became more conventional wisdom on Capitol Hill. The United States has built its Air Forces, Navy and Space Forces — and even more recently its Marines and Army forces — with a possible fight against China in mind.

Critics have said the military has invested too much in big expensive systems like fighter jets or aircraft carriers and too little in midrange drones and coastal defenses. But for Mr. Musk to evaluate how to reorient Pentagon spending, he would want to know what the military intends to use and for what purpose.

Mr. Musk has already called for the Pentagon to stop buying certain high-priced items like F-35 fighter jets, manufactured by one of his space-launch competitors, Lockheed Martin, in a program that costs the Pentagon more than $12 billion a year.
Image
20dc-musk-pentagon-gvzb-articleLarge.jpg

Mr. Musk’s company SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has suggested that it might target SpaceX assets if a war with China were to break out.Credit...Valerie Plesch for The New York Times
Yet Mr. Musk’s extensive business interests make his access to strategic secrets about China a serious problem in the view of ethics experts. Officials have said revisions to the war plans against China have focused on upgrading the plans for defending against space warfare. China has developed a suite of weapons that can attack U.S. satellites.

Mr. Musk’s constellations of low-earth orbit Starlink satellites, which provide data and communications services from space, are considered more resilient than traditional satellites. But he could have an interest in learning about whether or not the United States could defend his satellites in a war with China.

Participating in a classified briefing on the China threat with some of the most senior Pentagon and U.S. military officials would be a tremendously valuable opportunity for any defense contractor seeking to sell services to the military.

Mr. Musk could gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.

Contractors working on relevant Pentagon projects generally do have access to certain limited war planning documents, but only once war plans are approved, said Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on defense strategy. Individual executives rarely if ever get exclusive access to top Pentagon officials for a briefing like this, Mr. Harrison said.

“Musk at a war-planning briefing?” he said. “Giving the CEO of one defense company unique access seems like this could be grounds for a contract protest and is a real conflict of interest.”

Mr. Musk’s SpaceX is already being paid billions of dollars by the Pentagon and federal spy agencies to help the United States build new military satellite networks to try to confront rising military threats from China. SpaceX launches most of these military satellites for the Pentagon on its Falcon 9 rockets, which take off from launchpads SpaceX has set up at military bases in Florida and California.

The company separately has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars by the Pentagon that now relies heavily on SpaceX’s Starlink satellite communications network for military personnel to transmit data worldwide.

In 2024, SpaceX was granted about $1.6 billion in Air Force contracts. That does not include classified spending with SpaceX by the National Reconnaissance Office, which has hired the company to build it a new constellation of low-earth orbit satellites to spy on China, Russia and other threats.

Mr. Trump has already proposed that the United States build a new system the military is calling Golden Dome, a space-based missile defense system that recalls what President Ronald Reagan tried to deliver. (The so-called Star Wars system Mr. Reagan had in mind was never fully developed.)

Perceived missile threats from China — be it nuclear weapons or hypersonic missiles or cruise missiles — are a major factor that led Mr. Trump to sign an executive order recently instructing the Pentagon to start work on Golden Dome.
Image
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The site of SpaceX Starbase in Boca Chica, Texas. The Pentagon briefing could help Elon Musk gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.Credit...Callaghan O'Hare for The New York Times
Even starting to plan and build the first components of the system will cost tens of billions of dollars, according to Pentagon officials, and most likely create large business opportunities for SpaceX, which already provides rocket launches, satellite structures, and space-based data communications systems, all of which will be required for Golden Dome.

Separately, Mr. Musk has been the focus of an investigation by the Pentagon’s inspector general over questions about his compliance with his top-secret security clearance.

The investigations started last year after some SpaceX employees complained to government agencies that Mr. Musk and others at SpaceX were not properly reporting contacts or conversations with foreign leaders.

Air Force officials, before the end of the Biden administration, started their own review, after Senate Democrats asked questions about Mr. Musk and asserted that he was not complying with security clearance requirements.

The Air Force, in fact, had denied a request by Mr. Musk for an even higher level of security clearance, known as Special Access Program, which is reserved for extremely sensitive classified programs, citing potential security risks associated with the billionaire.

In fact, SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has said it considers the company to be an extension of the U.S. military.

“Starlink Militarization and Its Impact on Global Strategic Stability” was the headline of one publication released last year from China’s National University of Defense Technology, according to a translation of the paper prepared by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Mr. Musk and Tesla, an electric vehicle company he controls, are heavily reliant on China, which houses one of the auto maker’s flagship factories in Shanghai. Unveiled in 2019, the state-of-the-art facility was built with special permission from the Chinese government, and now accounts for more than half of Tesla’s global deliveries. Last year, the company said in financial filings that it had a $2.8 billion loan agreement with lenders in China for production expenditures.

In public, Mr. Musk has avoided criticizing Beijing and signaled his willingness to work with the Chinese Communist Party. In 2022, he wrote a column for the magazine of the Cyberspace Administration of China, the country’s censorship agency, trumpeting his companies and their missions of improving humanity.

That same year, the billionaire told The Financial Times that China should be given some control over Taiwan by making a “special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable,” an assertion that angered politicians of the independent island. In that same interview, he also noted that Beijing sought assurances that he would not sell Starlink in China.

The following year at a tech conference, Mr. Musk called the democratic island “an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China,” and compared the Taiwan-China situation to Hawaii and the United States.

On X, the social platform he owns, Mr. Musk has long used his account to praise China. He has said the country is “by far” the world leader in electric vehicles and solar power, and has commended its space program for being “far more advanced than people realize.” He has encouraged more people to visit the country, and posited openly about an “inevitable” Russia-China alliance.
Musk:lla on niin syvät Kiinasuhteet että ihmetyttää Pentagonin suunnitelmiin pääsy - toki DOGE on aikamoinen boa, eli Pentagon joutunut valitsemaan pienenmmän pahan?
 
Niin erikoinen artikkeli, että muutamaan kertaan pohdin viitsinkö tänne laittaa. Toisaalta, erikoista on USA:n nykyhallinnon toimintakin.

NYT:in lähteiden mukaan, Musk vierailee perjantaina Pentagonissa, jossa hänelle esitellään USA:n suunnitelmia Kiinan kanssa käytävän sodan varalle. Artikkelissa arvellaan mahdollisena syynä tälläiseen vain äärimmäisen harvoille avattavaan tiedon jakoon, olevan DOGE:n tulevat Pentagoniin kohdistuvat säästötoimenpiteet. Muskin nykybisnekset SpaceX:n kautta Pentagoniin eivät ole merkitykseltään vähäisiä, kuten eivät ole taloudelliset sitoumukset Kiinan suuntaankaan. Mikä saattaisi eturistiriidalta kuulostaa.

NYT:in artikkelin julkaisun jälkeen DoD:in tiedottaja kertoi Muskin käynnin olevan vain vierailu.

Musk Set to Get Access to Top-Secret U.S. Plan for Potential War With China​

Giving Elon Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets is a major expansion of his role as an adviser to President Trump and highlights his conflicts of interest.


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20dc-musk-pentagon-hqpg-articleLarge.jpg

President Trump with Elon Musk and Mr. Musk’s son X, at the White House this month. It is unclear what the reasoning is for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing.Credit...Doug Mills/The New York Times
Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan MacMaggie Haberman
By Eric SchmittEric LiptonJulian E. BarnesRyan Mac and Maggie Haberman
  • March 20, 2025Updated 9:03 p.m. ET


The Pentagon is scheduled on Friday to brief Elon Musk on the U.S. military’s plan for any war that might break out with China, two U.S. officials said on Thursday.

Another official said the briefing will be China focused, without providing additional details. A fourth official confirmed Mr. Musk was to be at the Pentagon on Friday, but offered no details.

Providing Mr. Musk access to some of the nation’s most closely guarded military secrets would be a dramatic expansion of his already extensive role as an adviser to President Trump and leader of his effort to slash spending and purge the government of people and policies they oppose.

It would also bring into sharp relief the questions about Mr. Musk’s conflicts of interest as he ranges widely across the federal bureaucracy while continuing to run businesses that are major government contractors. In this case, Mr. Musk, the billionaire chief executive of both SpaceX and Tesla, is a leading supplier to the Pentagon and has extensive financial interests in China.

Pentagon war plans, known in military jargon as O-plans or operational plans, are among the military’s most closely guarded secrets. If a foreign country was to learn how the United States planned to fight a war against them, it could reinforce its defenses and address its weaknesses, making the plans far less likely to succeed.

The top-secret briefing for the China war plan has about 20 to 30 slides that lay out how the United States would fight such a conflict. It covers the plan beginning with the indications and warning of a threat from China to various options on what Chinese targets to hit, over what time period, that would be presented to Mr. Trump for decisions, according to officials with knowledge of the plan.

A White House spokesman did not respond to an email seeking comment about the purpose of the visit, how it came about, whether Mr. Trump was aware of it, and whether the visit raises questions of conflicts of interest. The White House has not said whether Mr. Trump signed a conflicts of interest waiver for Mr. Musk.

After The Times published this article, Sean Parnell, the chief Defense Department spokesman, said in a statement: “The Defense Department is excited to welcome Elon Musk to the Pentagon on Friday. He was invited by Secretary Hegseth and is just visiting.”

The meeting reflects the extraordinary dual role played by Mr. Musk, who is both the world’s wealthiest man and has been given broad authority by Mr. Trump.

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Mr. Musk has a security clearance, and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth can determine who has a need to know about the plan. A choice of sharing lots of technical details with Mr. Musk, however, is another matter.
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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has already received part of the China war plan and is expected to present the information to Mr. Musk alongside top U.S. government and military officials.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times
Mr. Hegseth; Adm. Christopher W. Grady, the acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; and Adm. Samuel J. Paparo, the head of the military’s Indo-Pacific Command, are set to present Mr. Musk with details on the U.S. plan to counter China in the event of military conflict between the two countries, the officials said.

Operational plans for major contingencies, like a war with China, are extremely difficult for people without extensive military planning experience to understand. The technical nature is why presidents are typically presented with the broad contours of a plan, rather than the actual details of documents. How many details Mr. Musk will want or need to hear is unclear.

Mr. Hegseth received part of the China war plan briefing last week and another part on Wednesday, according to officials familiar with the plan.

It was unclear what the impetus was for providing Mr. Musk such a sensitive briefing. He is not in the military chain of command, nor is he an official adviser to Mr. Trump on military matters involving China.

But there is a possible reason Mr. Musk might need to know aspects of the war plan. If Mr. Musk and his team of cost cutters from the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, want to trim the Pentagon budget in a responsible way, they may need to know what weapons systems the Pentagon plans to use in a fight with China.

Take, for example, aircraft carriers. Cutting back on future aircraft carriers would save billions of dollars, money that could be spent on drones or other weaponry. But if the U.S. war strategy relies on using aircraft carriers in innovative ways that would surprise China, mothballing existing ships or stopping production on future ships could cripple that plan.

Planning for a war with China has dominated Pentagon thinking for decades, well before a possible confrontation with Beijing became more conventional wisdom on Capitol Hill. The United States has built its Air Forces, Navy and Space Forces — and even more recently its Marines and Army forces — with a possible fight against China in mind.

Critics have said the military has invested too much in big expensive systems like fighter jets or aircraft carriers and too little in midrange drones and coastal defenses. But for Mr. Musk to evaluate how to reorient Pentagon spending, he would want to know what the military intends to use and for what purpose.

Mr. Musk has already called for the Pentagon to stop buying certain high-priced items like F-35 fighter jets, manufactured by one of his space-launch competitors, Lockheed Martin, in a program that costs the Pentagon more than $12 billion a year.
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Mr. Musk’s company SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has suggested that it might target SpaceX assets if a war with China were to break out.Credit...Valerie Plesch for The New York Times
Yet Mr. Musk’s extensive business interests make his access to strategic secrets about China a serious problem in the view of ethics experts. Officials have said revisions to the war plans against China have focused on upgrading the plans for defending against space warfare. China has developed a suite of weapons that can attack U.S. satellites.

Mr. Musk’s constellations of low-earth orbit Starlink satellites, which provide data and communications services from space, are considered more resilient than traditional satellites. But he could have an interest in learning about whether or not the United States could defend his satellites in a war with China.

Participating in a classified briefing on the China threat with some of the most senior Pentagon and U.S. military officials would be a tremendously valuable opportunity for any defense contractor seeking to sell services to the military.

Mr. Musk could gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.

Contractors working on relevant Pentagon projects generally do have access to certain limited war planning documents, but only once war plans are approved, said Todd Harrison, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, where he focuses on defense strategy. Individual executives rarely if ever get exclusive access to top Pentagon officials for a briefing like this, Mr. Harrison said.

“Musk at a war-planning briefing?” he said. “Giving the CEO of one defense company unique access seems like this could be grounds for a contract protest and is a real conflict of interest.”

Mr. Musk’s SpaceX is already being paid billions of dollars by the Pentagon and federal spy agencies to help the United States build new military satellite networks to try to confront rising military threats from China. SpaceX launches most of these military satellites for the Pentagon on its Falcon 9 rockets, which take off from launchpads SpaceX has set up at military bases in Florida and California.

The company separately has been paid hundreds of millions of dollars by the Pentagon that now relies heavily on SpaceX’s Starlink satellite communications network for military personnel to transmit data worldwide.

In 2024, SpaceX was granted about $1.6 billion in Air Force contracts. That does not include classified spending with SpaceX by the National Reconnaissance Office, which has hired the company to build it a new constellation of low-earth orbit satellites to spy on China, Russia and other threats.

Mr. Trump has already proposed that the United States build a new system the military is calling Golden Dome, a space-based missile defense system that recalls what President Ronald Reagan tried to deliver. (The so-called Star Wars system Mr. Reagan had in mind was never fully developed.)

Perceived missile threats from China — be it nuclear weapons or hypersonic missiles or cruise missiles — are a major factor that led Mr. Trump to sign an executive order recently instructing the Pentagon to start work on Golden Dome.
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The site of SpaceX Starbase in Boca Chica, Texas. The Pentagon briefing could help Elon Musk gain insight into new tools that the Pentagon might need and that SpaceX, where he remains the chief executive, could sell.Credit...Callaghan O'Hare for The New York Times
Even starting to plan and build the first components of the system will cost tens of billions of dollars, according to Pentagon officials, and most likely create large business opportunities for SpaceX, which already provides rocket launches, satellite structures, and space-based data communications systems, all of which will be required for Golden Dome.

Separately, Mr. Musk has been the focus of an investigation by the Pentagon’s inspector general over questions about his compliance with his top-secret security clearance.

The investigations started last year after some SpaceX employees complained to government agencies that Mr. Musk and others at SpaceX were not properly reporting contacts or conversations with foreign leaders.

Air Force officials, before the end of the Biden administration, started their own review, after Senate Democrats asked questions about Mr. Musk and asserted that he was not complying with security clearance requirements.

The Air Force, in fact, had denied a request by Mr. Musk for an even higher level of security clearance, known as Special Access Program, which is reserved for extremely sensitive classified programs, citing potential security risks associated with the billionaire.

In fact, SpaceX has become so valuable to the Pentagon that the Chinese government has said it considers the company to be an extension of the U.S. military.

“Starlink Militarization and Its Impact on Global Strategic Stability” was the headline of one publication released last year from China’s National University of Defense Technology, according to a translation of the paper prepared by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Mr. Musk and Tesla, an electric vehicle company he controls, are heavily reliant on China, which houses one of the auto maker’s flagship factories in Shanghai. Unveiled in 2019, the state-of-the-art facility was built with special permission from the Chinese government, and now accounts for more than half of Tesla’s global deliveries. Last year, the company said in financial filings that it had a $2.8 billion loan agreement with lenders in China for production expenditures.

In public, Mr. Musk has avoided criticizing Beijing and signaled his willingness to work with the Chinese Communist Party. In 2022, he wrote a column for the magazine of the Cyberspace Administration of China, the country’s censorship agency, trumpeting his companies and their missions of improving humanity.

That same year, the billionaire told The Financial Times that China should be given some control over Taiwan by making a “special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable,” an assertion that angered politicians of the independent island. In that same interview, he also noted that Beijing sought assurances that he would not sell Starlink in China.

The following year at a tech conference, Mr. Musk called the democratic island “an integral part of China that is arbitrarily not part of China,” and compared the Taiwan-China situation to Hawaii and the United States.

On X, the social platform he owns, Mr. Musk has long used his account to praise China. He has said the country is “by far” the world leader in electric vehicles and solar power, and has commended its space program for being “far more advanced than people realize.” He has encouraged more people to visit the country, and posited openly about an “inevitable” Russia-China alliance.
Propagandaa ja vale-uutisia, kommentoivat sekä Trump että Musk NYT:in artikkelia. Musk kertoo myös, että vuotajat Pentagonista tullaan saamaan selville.

Ehkäpä vuotajille samaa verbaalitykitystä tiedossa, kuin kenraali Milleylle, jota Trump aikanaan maanpetoksesta syytti. “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” Tämänkaltaista vaikuttamista poliittiseen ympäristöön, Trump valitettavan menestyksekkäästi käyttänyt läpi poliittisen uransa. Pelolla hallitsemista eli ei mitään uutta auringon alla.

Veikkaan, että tästä saamme tulevina viikkoina lisää vuotojen muodossa luettavaksi. Toivottavasti jonkinlainen uutisankka kyseessä.

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Myös WSJ:n lähteet komppaavat NYT:in artikkelia. Valitettavasti maksumuuri.

Muskin rooli hallinnossa, pelkällä "special Government employee" -statuksella toimien. On varmaankin USA:n historiassa vertaistaan hakeva.
 
Propagandaa ja vale-uutisia, kommentoivat sekä Trump että Musk NYT:in artikkelia. Musk kertoo myös, että vuotajat Pentagonista tullaan saamaan selville.

Ehkäpä vuotajille samaa verbaalitykitystä tiedossa, kuin kenraali Milleylle, jota Trump aikanaan maanpetoksesta syytti. “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” Tämänkaltaista vaikuttamista poliittiseen ympäristöön, Trump valitettavan menestyksekkäästi käyttänyt läpi poliittisen uransa. Pelolla hallitsemista eli ei mitään uutta auringon alla.

Veikkaan, että tästä saamme tulevina viikkoina lisää vuotojen muodossa luettavaksi. Toivottavasti jonkinlainen uutisankka kyseessä.

Katso liite: 120703

Myös WSJ:n lähteet komppaavat NYT:in artikkelia. Valitettavasti maksumuuri.

Muskin rooli hallinnossa, pelkällä "special Government employee" -statuksella toimien. On varmaankin USA:n historiassa vertaistaan hakeva.
Ja tähän seurantaa... Politicon mukaan, Muskille ei salassapidettävää materiaalia esitetä Kiina-USA sotilaallisiin konfliktisuunnitelmiin liittyen.

The unclassified briefing contradicts the The New York Times, which first reported the meeting. The conversation will focus exclusively on China as the United States’ primary military challenge, according to the official. It also comes just two days before Hegeth is set to leave on a weeklong trip to Asia with stops in Japan, Philippines, Guam and Hawaii.

The official did not say whether Musk was originally going to receive a classified briefing.
 
Aika vaarallinen maa turvapaikanhakijoille nykyään, lääketieteen opiskelija Harvardissa joka protestoi Ukrainan sotaa vastaa palautetaan venäjälle:
 
Aika vaarallinen maa turvapaikanhakijoille nykyään, lääketieteen opiskelija Harvardissa joka protestoi Ukrainan sotaa vastaa palautetaan venäjälle:
Ilmeisesti mokasi tullissa, toi maahan Ranskan reissulta näytteen joka olisi pitänyt tullata joten maahantulo kiellettiin. Sai mahdollisuuden palata Ranskaan… eli karkotukselta ei mitään tekemistä Ukrainan sodan protestoinnin kanssa.
 
Ilmeisesti mokasi tullissa, toi maahan Ranskan reissulta näytteen joka olisi pitänyt tullata joten maahantulo kiellettiin. Sai mahdollisuuden palata Ranskaan… eli karkotukselta ei mitään tekemistä Ukrainan sodan protestoinnin kanssa.
Älä nyt pilaa hyvää tarinaa: putlerin taskussa oleva trumppi palautti miekkosen muskin paska-raketilla suoraan gulaggiin jne!
 
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