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Oheinen metallihäkkyrätalo on tulli/rajavartiosto hongkong-shenzhen rajalla. PAP saapuu lasersokaisuvaloineen ja ääniaseineen.

edit: eipä olekaan, näkyy liian lyhyen aikaa. Taitavat olla vielä kiinan puolella.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1160864076559351810
 
– Poliittisesti Kiinan johdolle on hyvin hankalaa myöntyä Hongkongin mielenosoittajien vaatimuksiin.

Näin arvioi professori Matti Nojonen Lapin yliopistosta. Hän uskoo, ettei Kiinan keskusjohto peräänny hongkongilaisten edessä.

Kiinan yhteiskuntaan ja kultturiin erikoistunut professori Matti Nojonen muistuttaa, että Kiinassa on jatkuvasti meneillään satoja mielenosoituksia.

– Perääntyminen olisi viesti maan sisällä. Se merkitsisi, että keskusjohto voi luopua absoluuttisesta vallasta. Niin ei voi käydä.

Erityisen tarkasti Hongkongin käänteitä katsotaan Taiwanissa. Kiinan näkemys on, että Taiwan kuuluu Kiinan kansantasavaltaan. Kiina toimii Hongkongissa Taiwanin katseiden alla, eikä siitäkään syystä anna vaikutelmaa lepsuilusta.

– Kommunistisen puolueen johtaja ja Kiinan presidentti Xi Jinping on luonut itsestään mielikuvan tiukkana johtajana. Olisi iso isku Xin maineelle, jos hän tässä näyttäisi pehmeältä.
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https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10920198
 
Flights have resumed in and out of Hong Kong airport after two days of protests by pro-democracy activists as Chinese officials condemned the disruption that paralysed the international hub as “near-terrorist acts”.

Hundreds of flights were cancelled on Tuesday after demonstrators blockaded two terminals in the latest escalation of a 10-week political crisis that has gripped the city.

But by Wednesday only about 30 protesters remained at the airport and flights began taking off on a more regular basis.

The airport’s website showed dozens of flights taking off overnight and listed hundreds more which were scheduled to depart throughout the day, although many were delayed.

Check-in desks were operating normally as hundreds of delayed passengers queued up and airport staff scrubbed the terminals clean of blood and debris from overnight.

It came as Beijing stepped up its war of words against the protesters.

China’s Hong Kong and Macao affairs office said in a statement that the airport protests were “near-terrorist acts”. It also strongly condemned attacks against a reporter from China’s Global Times newspaper at the airport by what it said were violent protesters.

The ruling Communist party’s official People’s Daily newspaper said on Wednesday that Hong Kong had reached a critical juncture.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-after-clashes-between-protesters-and-police
 
Ne sotilasajoneuvot jotka nähtiin Shenzenissä Hongkongin edustalla sisälsi mellakkavarusteissa olevia Kiinalaisia. Toimittajat rynni heti paikalle katsomaan ketäs siellä oikein on.
Taitaa olla tulevat likaisen työn tekijät. Nuo eivät varmaankaan ole Hongkongin mellakkapoliisin reserviä.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1161659759751122944
 
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Satellite photos show what appear to be armoured personnel carriers and other vehicles belonging to the China’s paramilitary People’s Armed police parked in a sports stadium in the city of Shenzhen, which borders Hong Kong, which some have interpreted as Beijing threatening increased force against pro-democracy protesters.

The pictures collected on Monday by Maxar’s WorldView show more than 100 vehicles sitting on and around the soccer stadium at the Shenzhen Bay sports centre just across the harbour from the Asian financial hub that has been rocked by more than two months of near-daily street demonstrations.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...cles-border-hong-kong-shenzhen-sports-stadium

Jos Kiina pistäisi Hong Kongin nälkäsaartoon niin kauanko menisi aikaa ennenkuin jengi rupaisi olemaan valmis luovuttamaan?
 
Q1: What is controversial about the amendments?

A1: Hong Kong currently has extradition treaties with 20 countries and provides legal assistance to 32 countries. Two laws, the Fugitive Offenders Ordinance and the Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters Ordinance, were introduced in 1997 right before Hong Kong was handed over to China to regulate the practices of extradition and legal assistance with other jurisdictions. The two laws specifically deny the applicability of those laws to mainland China because of deep concerns about the limits of rule of law in China and the desire to implement the “one country, two systems” of ensuring Hong Kong can maintain its internal social, economic and legal system until 2047. Under the current legal framework, Hong Kong’s government is legally bound not to respond to extradition requests from mainland China.

The bill, introduced and sponsored by 22 Legco members, seeks to amend these two ordinances. The amendments will change Hong Kong’s government’s extradition practice to a case-by-case scenario when such a request is made by a jurisdiction, including mainland China, that does not have extradition or legal assistance agreements with the city. It will also modify the list of crimes that are covered under the current ordinances.

When the amendments were officially introduced in April, there was a strong backlash from the legal and business communities. The original amendments included 46 categories of extraditable crimes, among which were commercial crimes related to bankruptcy, tax, and trading. In a revised bill, the government removed nine crimes on commerce and trade. The final proposed version covers 37 crimes that are eligible for extradition if the offenses are punishable by more than seven years under Hong Kong law.

The bill still sparked controversy over whether it would politicize extradition from Hong Kong, and whether it would threaten Hong Kong’s judicial independence. Over the years, Beijing has gradually increased its influence over the special administrative region (SAR), an effort which triggered concern from within Hong Kong and internationally. The forced disappearance of the Hong Kong-based bookseller, Gui Minhai, from Thailand and his reappearance in China generated grave fear over the extent to which China chased after its fugitives. If the amendments are passed, there would be no legal barrier for any government, including the Chinese government, to ask Hong Kong’s government for assistance with extradition. Although the amendments attempt to introduce protection against fears of abuse and politicization through measures, such as prima faci evidence reviews by Hong Kong’s court, the measures are still seen as insufficient given the great distrust people have over China’s opaque legal system.

Protesters have made two demands: that the amendments be withdrawn, and that Carrie Lam resign.

The bill has also generated concern from foreign countries because if passed, the city’s government will have the power to decide what type of action to take against foreigners who are in Hong Kong but wanted by China. The United States and the European Union have both expressed their concerns over the safety of their citizens residing in or transiting through Hong Kong if such law is passed.
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https://www.csis.org/analysis/whither-hong-kong

Q5: What are the possible outcomes?

A5: It is hard to say. Observers expect protests to resume on Sunday, June 16, but it does not look as if in the short term Legco will withdraw the amendments and Carrie Lam is unlikely to resign. However, the president of Legco, Andrew Leung, issued a circular on June 13 and momentarily postponed further debate on the bill. No new date has yet been set. Leung previously indicated that only 61 hours would be allocated for debate. It is still possible that the bill could be passed soon. But if the bill could not be debated and voted on before July 11, Legco would go into its three-month summer recess, and no bill would be considered until they meet again in October.

Beyond the bill itself, it remains to be seen whether social divisions within Hong Kong will intensify, or if a greater consensus about its relationship with mainland China will emerge. That debate will be heavily affected by how Beijing responds. It could continue its current approach of gradual expansion of its influence in Hong Kong or pick up the pace of such activities, or reconsider its approach and do more to provide reassurance to Hong Kong residents and the international community.
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Tänään somessa pyörinyt pätkä mis protestoijat heiluttelivat Amerikan lippuja ja huutelivat vapautta ja demokratiaa. Hämmentävää
 
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Tänään somessa pyörinyt pätkä mis protestoijat heiluttelivat Amerikan lippuja ja huutelivat vapautta ja demokratiaa. Hämmentävää
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Todellakin. Ehkä he haluvat Setä Samulin piipahtavan kylässä jakamassa vapautta perinteiseen tyyliin. :uzi:

Mutta, mikä mua noissa risoo on että he eivät halua heiluttaa Hong Kongin lippua itsenäisyysmielessä. Omasta mielestäni se on vallansopiva kaupunkivaltiolle, eikä se tarvitse yhtään mitään lisää.
 
ctg kirjoitti:
Todellakin. Ehkä he haluvat Setä Samulin piipahtavan kylässä jakamassa vapautta perinteiseen tyyliin. :uzi:

Mutta, mikä mua noissa risoo on että he eivät halua heiluttaa Hong Kongin lippua itsenäisyysmielessä. Omasta mielestäni se on vallansopiva kaupunkivaltiolle, eikä se tarvitse yhtään mitään lisää.
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Taitavat olla sen verran "realisteja", etteivät usko Kiinan päästävän itsenäiseksi. Niinpä vaativat Kiinaa noudattamaan edes nykyisiä)kaupungin statuksesta.
 
ctg kirjoitti:
Mutta, mikä mua noissa risoo on että he eivät halua heiluttaa Hong Kongin lippua itsenäisyysmielessä. Omasta mielestäni se on vallansopiva kaupunkivaltiolle, eikä se tarvitse yhtään mitään lisää.
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Meinaatko nyt vanhaa kunnon Union Jack -pohjaista lippua?1280px-Flag_of_Hong_Kong_(1959–1997).svg.png

Kiinalle se varmaankin olisi punainen vaate. Nykyinen lippu taas on menettänyt suosiotaan Kiinan painostuksen seurauksena, vanha lippu kun symboloi paljon enemmän riippumattomuutta Kiinasta.
 
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