Konflikti Kiinan merellä

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China’s military and state media have warned the UK against provocation as it sent a carrier strike group, led by a Royal Navy aircraft carrier, through the contested South China Sea.

A spokesman for China’s Ministry of National Defence, Wu Qian, said it respected freedom of navigation but firmly opposed any naval activities that aimed to provoke controversy.

“The action should never try to destabilise regional peace, including the latest military collaboration between the UK and Japan,” spokesman Wu Qian, said. “The Chinese navy will take any necessary actions to counter-measure such behaviour.”
 

Marakatti

Kenraali
Kiinalaisethan itse eivät tunnetusti perseile ja pelottele naapureitaan ja muitakin tuol suunilla. Kiinalla on jostain syystä nyt kova uho päällä. Kaipaavatko sotaa jostain syystä vai pelkkää uhoa ?
 
Kiinalaisethan itse eivät tunnetusti perseile ja pelottele naapureitaan ja muitakin tuol suunilla. Kiinalla on jostain syystä nyt kova uho päällä. Kaipaavatko sotaa jostain syystä vai pelkkää uhoa ?
USA on vähän heikossa hapessa koronan ja kansan kahtiajakautumisen takia, joten nyt on hyvä hetki testailla reaktioita. USA:n laivastokin on tällä hetkellä tiukoilla.

'https://news.usni.org/2021/07/26/usni-news-fleet-and-marine-tracker-july-26-2021
 

Sandelzz

Kersantti


YHDYSVALTOJEN JA KIINAN "UUDEN kylmän sodan" RÄJÄHDYSMÄISET JÄNNITTEET

"kärjistyvät seuraavien 2 vuoden aikana" ja "konfliktia on vaikea välttää epäonnistumisten jälkeen"​

Voiko maalailla Kolmatta maailmansotaa 2030-40?
 

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Greatest Leader
Chinese president Xi Jinping said that the ruling Communist Party of China (CPC) ‘commands the gun’ and asked the military to make resolute efforts to transform China’s army into the world’s best army by 2027 on par with the US army. Xi’s comments come on the eve of China’s army day and are a reiteration of what was decided during the plenary session of the CPC in October 2020.

Xi while addressing a group study session of the CPC Political Bureau on Saturday asked the army to build the determination to work hard and achieve the goal set for the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) which celebrates its 100 years in 2027. He said that the goal is in alignment with national strength and it fulfils the future national defence needs of China.

Xi heads the powerful Central Military Commission (CMC) which is the overall high command of the Chinese military. He also emphasised on holding military exercises in real battle conditions to win wars and rapid modernization of the PLA.

The Chinese president punished over 50 top generals besides a host of mid-rung officials as it held a massive anti-corruption drive after coming to power. On Saturday, he extended regards to officers, soldiers and civilian personnel of the PLA and the People’s Armed Police Force. This meeting comes ahead of the 94th anniversary of the PLA on Sunday.

Xi also highlighted during the meeting that these goals set by him are necessary to ‘build a modern socialist country’.

Adm. Mike Gilday, chief of naval operations, requested that the defense industry stop lobbying Congress to build equipment the Navy no longer wants and “be a bit more agile in pivoting to new technologies and new platforms.”

“Although it’s in industry’s best interest … building the ships that you want to build, lagging on repairs to ships and submarines, lobbying Congress to buy aircraft that we don’t need … it’s not helpful,” the Navy’s top officer said Monday at the Navy League’s Sea-Air-Space conference — the first in-person major naval conference since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. “It really isn’t in a budget-constrained environment.”

In the proposed 2022 Navy budget, service leaders call for canceling one of two guided-missile destroyers planned for 2022 and speeding the divestment of F/A-18 Hornet fighter jets. Congress has been critical of the plans, proposing to save the second guided-missile destroyer in a House Armed Services Committee markup of the budget on Wednesday and regularly questioning divestments.

The Navy feels a “sense of urgency” against a rising China, and the service has been working to “move the needle in a bureaucracy that’s not really designed to move very fast,” Gilday said. To do so, he said, the service must work with industry leaders.

“This is about the prosperity of this country, the economic security of this country, the national security of this country,” Gilday said. “It’s going to take a new approach in terms of what we build, how we build it and the timelines on which we deliver. It has to change, and I know we have to do it together.”
 

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Paljon asioita.

Brittien paluu suurvalta näyttämölle kansainvälisellä tukialus fleetillä, missä myös EU on mukana näyttämässä keppiä. Vaikea sanoa mitä Kiina miettii.
Operation Fortis, as this deployment is named, commenced in May 2021. It is intended to mark the return of the United Kingdom to the global stage and serve as a model for the future of the Royal Navy’s operations: the use of large strike groups deployed globally to support national interests, with smaller vessels permanently based around the world to show presence.

Accompanying the HMS Queen Elizabeth and forming Carrier Strike Group (CSG) 21 on its maiden deployment were Type 45 destroyers HMS Defender and HMS Diamond (reported to have been detached due to a major defect earlier this month), Type 23 ASW frigates HMS Kent and HMS Richmond, the Astute-class attack submarine HMS Artful, the United States’ Arleigh Burke-class destroyer USS The Sullivans, Dutch De Zeven Provincien-class frigate HNLMS Evertsen, and the Royal Fleet Auxiliary’s Fort Victoria and Tidespring. The carrier embarked 8 F-35B Lightnings from the Royal Air Force and 10 from the U.S. Marine Corps, along with airborne early warning and control, anti-submarine, and transport helicopters.
Intian meren operaatio
On July 21 and 22, CSG 21 was reported to have exercised with Indian Navy ships Satpura, Ranvir, Jyoti, Kavaratti, and Kulish, along with a submarine and P-8I aircraft. The maiden exercise between the Indian and UK navies’ latest aircraft carriers was described by India as a passage exercise, though a somewhat ambitious one, as it is said to have enabled engagement over the entire spectrum of maritime operations. The British High Commission, on the other hand, projected it as three days of complex maritime interactions. The United States Naval Institute reported this as Exercise Konkan. It went on to report that CSG 21 would exercise with a U.S. Carrier Strike Group in the Indo-Pacific in August, bringing together the largest concentration of F-35 jets anywhere in the world.

The return of British attention East of Suez first became evident with the reactivation of HMS Juffair, a U.K. Naval Support Facility in Bahrain, in April 2018. The claimed regional footprint was broadened to the Indo-Pacific through a dedicated section in the United Kingdom’s integrated review of March 16, 2021, which describes the region as “at the centre of intensifying geopolitical competition with multiple potential flashpoints” and “on the frontline of new security challenges, including in cyberspace.” To support operations in the Indo-Pacific, the United Kingdom will call upon British defense staff in Kenya (Mombasa), Oman (Duqm), Singapore, and Australia (Canberra) in addition to defense representation spread throughout the region which includes large training areas in Kenya and Oman and hubs/bases in the British Indian Ocean Territory and Brunei. The United Kingdom’s comprehensive strategic partnership with India also plays a significant role. India’s foreign secretary visited London on July 24 and 25 to review UK-India cooperation and the implementation of the bilateral Road Map 2020, which had been adopted in May 2021.
Kiinan meren operaatio
The stiffer posture of the United Kingdom, the European Union, and NATO toward China was visible in President Biden’s summits in June. It also showed in discussions at the Japan-UK Defense Ministerial Meeting on July 20, when the UK commitment to realize a Free and Open Indo-Pacific was described as robust and irreversible and the two ministers expressed their will to strongly oppose unilateral attempts to change the status quo in the East and South China Seas by force or coercion. President Emmanuel Macron of France has also committed to strengthening bilateral security cooperation with Australia and Japan to realize a Free and Open Indo-Pacific. There are reports of the Pentagon considering a permanent naval task force to counter China in the Pacific, on the lines of the Cold War’s Standing Naval Force Atlantic. Reports also indicate that Australia will send two frigates to join CSG 21 for exercises in the South China Sea. All in all, momentum against China’s coercion in the Western Pacific is gathering pace. European power will deploy in the Western Pacific during the period China sees as its window of opportunity. The Europeans will inevitably transit through the Indian Ocean for this purpose, providing greater opportunities for engaging with India and its navy.

Although some had anticipated it, CSG 21 did not conduct a freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) during its transit through the South China Sea. This choice is notable given that the group’s own HMS Defender carried out a 36-minute operation in the territorial sea of Crimea on June 23 to assert its right to conduct innocent passage and, obliquely, to challenge Russia’s annexation of the region. Prime Minister Boris Johnson described that operation as a FONOP and it led Russia to reportedly fire warning shots toward the vessel. But in the South China Sea, the HMS Elizabeth took the most direct route across the contested waterway, from Singapore to the Philippine Sea, and did not enter the territorial seas or baselines around any Chinese-claimed islands. A FONOP in the South China Sea, either singly or involving elements from the United States or others, would have sent a strong signal.

Reports based on satellite imagery indicate that even as CSG 21 was transiting through the South China Sea, China’s Shandong Carrier Group was exercising in the region. Ships from the Indian Navy’s Eastern Fleet had set sail for their annual deployment to South East Asia and would participate in bilateral exercises with Brunei, Indonesia, Singapore, the Philippines, and Vietnam, apart from the annual Exercise Malabar being held off Guam in the second half of August 2021. Tony Abbott, the former Australian Prime Minister had said that the HMS Queen Elizabeth would also participate in the forthcoming Exercise Malabar. The developing situation will no doubt provide rich material for geopolitical analysts.
 
Paljon asioita.

Brittien paluu suurvalta näyttämölle kansainvälisellä tukialus fleetillä, missä myös EU on mukana näyttämässä keppiä. Vaikea sanoa mitä Kiina miettii.

Intian meren operaatio

Kiinan meren operaatio

Kiina lähinnä nauraa miten briteillä on jo etukäteen löysät housuissa. Venäläisille voidaan vähän uhitella, mutta Kiinalle ei.

Although some had anticipated it, CSG 21 did not conduct a freedom of navigation operation (FONOP) during its transit through the South China Sea. This choice is notable given that the group’s own HMS Defender carried out a 36-minute operation in the territorial sea of Crimea on June 23 to assert its right to conduct innocent passage and, obliquely, to challenge Russia’s annexation of the region. Prime Minister Boris Johnson described that operation as a FONOP and it led Russia to reportedly fire warning shots toward the vessel. But in the South China Sea, the HMS Elizabeth took the most direct route across the contested waterway, from Singapore to the Philippine Sea, and did not enter the territorial seas or baselines around any Chinese-claimed islands. A FONOP in the South China Sea, either singly or involving elements from the United States or others, would have sent a strong signal.
 

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Greatest Leader
Kiina lähinnä nauraa miten briteillä on jo etukäteen löysät housuissa. Venäläisille voidaan vähän uhitella, mutta Kiinalle ei.

Taisi olla sopimusasia. Kiinalla on valta-asema alueella ja jenkit pahasti vaiheessa varustautumisasiassa. He itse ovat laskeneet että seuraavat kaksi vuotta on sellaista aikaa jolloin Kiina on vahvimmillaan ja he varustautumassa. Ja jos konflikti on toteutumassa niin he eivät halua tehdä sitä housut kintuissa Elisabethin neitsytmatkalla.
 

Pihatonttu

Respected Leader
Kiina lähinnä nauraa miten briteillä on jo etukäteen löysät housuissa. Venäläisille voidaan vähän uhitella, mutta Kiinalle ei.

Kannattaa ajatella niin että USA + Britit + Australia = Yksi yhteinen blokki.

Intia + Japani lienevät vahvasti niiden tukena.

Noiden viiden yhteinen merellinen voima on aika mahtava ja sisältää aikamoisen ilmassa pörräävän kapasiteetin.
 

TeVu

Luutnantti
Taisi olla sopimusasia. Kiinalla on valta-asema alueella ja jenkit pahasti vaiheessa varustautumisasiassa. He itse ovat laskeneet että seuraavat kaksi vuotta on sellaista aikaa jolloin Kiina on vahvimmillaan ja he varustautumassa. Ja jos konflikti on toteutumassa niin he eivät halua tehdä sitä housut kintuissa Elisabethin neitsytmatkalla.
Se on varma että Kiina tekee samat analyysit. Tietenkin näkemyseroja voi olla, kun tarkastelevat omia voimiaan puolueen lasien takaa, mutta kun tietävät että USA on nyt heräilemässä ja varustautuu niin...
 
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China has reported dramatic increase in local production of semiconductors and other electronics.

The nation's Bureau of Statistics published data on industrial production during July '21. Integrated circuit production rose 41.3 per cent year-on-year, to over 31 billion units. For the calendar year to date, IC production jumped 47.3 per cent.

PC-makers were also busy in the first seven months, cranking out almost 36 million machines – a 37.9 per cent year-on-year jump. July production jumped 10.3 per cent.

Mobile phone makers shoved almost 127 million units out the door – and while that was a 2.1 per cent drop compared to July 2020 it also represented a year-to-date jump of 16.4 per cent jump.

Taitaa talous kyykätä aika pahasti jos Taiwanin konflikti toteutuu.
 

TeVu

Luutnantti


Twitterissä alko kauhea viestittely siitä että jos tosiaan USAn joukkoja on Taiwanissa, niin Kiina hyökkää heti.

Ilmeisesti senaattori on tosiaan sanonut näin:

 
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Twitterissä alko kauhea viestittely siitä että jos tosiaan USAn joukkoja on Taiwanissa, niin Kiina hyökkää heti.

Ilmeisesti senaattori on tosiaan sanonut näin:

Todellisuudessa Taiwanissa on 30 USA:n sotilasta: 23 merijalkaväestä, 5 ilmavoimista ja 2 laivastosta. Lisäksi siellä on 15 Pentagonille työskentelevää siviiliä.
Jos arvaan, niin siellä on lähetystön vartiomiehiä, sotilasasiamiehiä ja ehkä jokunen yhteysupseeri.
 

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Greatest Leader
China's government has introduced rules for protection of critical information infrastructure.

An announcement by the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) said that cyber attacks are currently frequent in the Middle Kingdom, and the security challenges facing critical information infrastructure are severe. The announcement therefore defines infosec regulations and and responsibilities.

The CAC referred to critical infrastructure as "the nerve center of economic and social operations and the top priority of network security". China's definition of critical information infrastructure can be found in Article 2 of the State Council's "Regulations on the Security Protection of Critical Information Infrastructure" and boils down to any system that could suffer significant damage from a cyber attack, and/or have such an attack damage society at large or even national security.

"The regulations clarify that important network facilities and information systems in key industries and fields belong to critical information infrastructure," wrote the CAC in its announcement (as translated from Mandarin), adding that the state was adopting measures to monitor, defend and handle network risks and intrusions, originating domestically and globally.

The regulations themselves are lengthy and detailed, but the theme is that all Chinese enterprises whose operations depend on networks must conduct an annual security reviews, report breaches to government, and establish teams to monitor security constantly.

Tämä auditiointi voi kestää helposti hyvin pitkän aikaa, jos ne aikoo tehdä sen koko infralle. Varsinkin kun heidän systeemissä on iso kasa loadbalansereita, content filttereita ja palomuureja sun muita "valtion sensuuri" laatikoita.
 

SJ

Supreme Leader

Tämä auditiointi voi kestää helposti hyvin pitkän aikaa, jos ne aikoo tehdä sen koko infralle. Varsinkin kun heidän systeemissä on iso kasa loadbalansereita, content filttereita ja palomuureja sun muita "valtion sensuuri" laatikoita.

Kyseessä on toki iso maa, mutta mitenkähän paljon koulutettua henkilökuntaa tuollainen vaatii? Mahtaakohan sitä olla tarpeeksi?
 

ctg

Greatest Leader
mutta mitenkähän paljon koulutettua henkilökuntaa tuollainen vaatii?

Koulutettu ei ole oikea avain sana, pitää olla ymmärrystä miten koko infra on rakennettu. Perus admin ei siihen pysty koska laajuus on liian rankka, joten kokemusta ja ymmärrystä verkon rakennuksesta ja miten eri vehkeet siellä on järjestetty kokonaisuudeksi.

Heillä ongelmana on myös että 80-luvusta lähtien he ovat rakentaneet omia vehkeitään pitämään yllä Suurta Palomuuria ja osa niistä ratkaisusta voi olla erikoisia legacy vehkeitä, mihin kenelläkään ei ole ollut lupa koskea, koska syyt.

Jos valtiollinen haluaisi olla nyt ilkeä niin se käyttäisi hyväkseen tuota uutta heikkoutta ja vahvistaisi dDoS hyökkäyksiä käyttämällä hyväksi heidän omia systeemejä. Viimeisin suuri kaatoi googlen 2.54 Teran kokoisella paketilla.

Iso määrä työtä se on ja paperien määrä on loputon, vaikka käytössä olisi pieni armeija kokenutta väkeä. Mieti mikä määrä duunia se olisi jos sama käsky kävisi meille ja jokainen verkkolaite olisi auditoinnin alla.
 
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