Ukrainan konflikti/sota
pitkäpyssy
Kapteeni
Tässä näillä ryssillä tärkeä keskustelu ennen hyökkäystä.
pitkäpyssy
Kapteeni
Eiliset tapahtumat tilastoituna.
Maksin tietotoimiston twiitistä bongasin Forbes artikkelin joka loppujen lopuksi pohjautui tähän Wartranslated tilin mielenkiintoiseen ryssäkommenttiin.
Tämän mukaan Ukrainalla on käytännössä tankkiylivoima useilla sektoreilla, koska ryssät eivät pysty käyttämään omiaan koska ne tuhotaan ennen etulinjaan tuloa. Ukrainan dronekyvykkyys ja EW ovat tässä keskeisiä. Ukrainan tankit päin vastoin saattavat ajaa ihan etulinjaan kiinni tuhoamaan pesäkkeitä.
Ryssällä on vielä niukasti kuitudrooneja ja niitä annetaan vain prioriteettisektoreille kuten Kurskiin, jossa ilmeisesti niitä käytettiin menestyksekkäästi Ukrainan viimeistä pikkupuskua vastaan (tuhottuihin Abrams ja Leo 2 tankkeihin viitataan, nämä voisi tarkistaa jostain halutessaan).
Mainitsee myös, että Ukrainan tykistö on hyvin tarkka ja kyvykäs tuhoamaan tankkeja, mutta ammuksista näyttää olevan pulaa. Sama ryssillä itselleen. Lyhyen kantaman PST-aseita ryssillä on hyvin.
Todetaan Ukrainan kyvykkyyksien olevan hyvät mutta jalkaväkeä puuttuu hyödyntämään mahdollisuuksia.
Tämän mukaan Ukrainalla on käytännössä tankkiylivoima useilla sektoreilla, koska ryssät eivät pysty käyttämään omiaan koska ne tuhotaan ennen etulinjaan tuloa. Ukrainan dronekyvykkyys ja EW ovat tässä keskeisiä. Ukrainan tankit päin vastoin saattavat ajaa ihan etulinjaan kiinni tuhoamaan pesäkkeitä.
Ryssällä on vielä niukasti kuitudrooneja ja niitä annetaan vain prioriteettisektoreille kuten Kurskiin, jossa ilmeisesti niitä käytettiin menestyksekkäästi Ukrainan viimeistä pikkupuskua vastaan (tuhottuihin Abrams ja Leo 2 tankkeihin viitataan, nämä voisi tarkistaa jostain halutessaan).
Mainitsee myös, että Ukrainan tykistö on hyvin tarkka ja kyvykäs tuhoamaan tankkeja, mutta ammuksista näyttää olevan pulaa. Sama ryssillä itselleen. Lyhyen kantaman PST-aseita ryssillä on hyvin.
Todetaan Ukrainan kyvykkyyksien olevan hyvät mutta jalkaväkeä puuttuu hyödyntämään mahdollisuuksia.
teknohippi
Ylipäällikkö
Blogin tekstissä on sisäinen ristiriita, eli jos ATGM aseistusta on niin miten Ukraina pystyy operoimaan suoraan etulinjassa? Vai onko ATGM kuitenkin jotain kessi-tason tavaraa? Fakotit, Kornetit etc. on jalustalta ammuttavia ja näitä on tuhottu urakalla jo kauan aikaa sitten. Kätevä olalta laukaistava kohteeseen hakeutuva kilometreihin yltävä taitaa olla puhtaasti länsitavaraa.
Kustaanmiekka
Kenraali
Venäjä tuhosi vahingossa Pohjois-Korean SAM-järjestelmän | Verkkouutiset
Venäjä tuhosi vahingossa Pohjois-Korean SAM-järjestelmän | Verkkouutiset
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Antares
Respected Leader
Pohjois-Korean tappioista:
The Yonhap agency, citing South Korean intelligence, reports that at least 300 North Korean military personnel have been killed in the war against Ukraine, with approximately 2,700 more injured.
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MUOKKAUS: tuo yllä lainattu on vain yksi tiedonmurunen tästä pidemmästä AP artikkelista:
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un shake hands during their meeting at the Vostochny cosmodrome outside of Tsiolkovsky, in the far eastern Amur region, Russia on Sept. 13, 2023. (Vladimir Smirnov/Sputnik Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, File)
BY KIM TONG-HYUNG
Updated 12:39 PM GMT+2,
January 13, 2025
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Monday that two North Korean soldiers who were captured by Ukrainian forces while fighting alongside Russian forces in Russia’s Kursk border region haven’t expressed a desire to seek asylum in South Korea.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said he’s willing to hand over the soldiers to North Korea if the country’s authoritarian leader, Kim Jong Un, arranges for an exchange with Ukrainian prisoners of war in Russia. Zelenskyy said one of the North Korean soldiers wishes to stay in Ukraine while the other wants to return to his country, which was consistent with interview videos released by his government. “If Kim Jong Un even remembers these citizens of his and is capable of organizing an exchange for our warriors being held in Russia, we are ready to transfer such soldiers. Undoubtedly there will be more POWs from North Korea,” Zelenskyy said in an address late Sunday. He said in a separate posting on the social media platform X that “there may be other options” for North Korean prisoners who don’t wish to go back.
In a closed-door briefing at South Korea’s National Assembly, the National Intelligence Service confirmed its participation in the questioning of the North Korean soldiers by Ukrainian authorities. The agency said the soldiers haven’t expressed a request to resettle in South Korea, according to two lawmakers who attended the meeting.
The agency said it was willing to discuss the matter with Ukrainian authorities if the soldiers eventually do ask to go to South Korea. About 34,000 North Koreans have defected to capitalist rival South Korea to avoid economic hardship and political suppression at home, mostly since the late 1990s.
Koo Byoungsam, spokesperson of South Korea’s Unification Ministry, which handles inter-Korean affairs, said facilitating the asylum of the North Korean soldiers would require “legal reviews, including on international law, and consultations with related nations.”
“There’s nothing we can say at the current stage,” Koo said.
The agency assessed that the North Koreans are struggling to adapt to drones and other elements of modern warfare. They are further disadvantaged by the crude tactics of their Russian commanders, who have thrown them in assault campaigns without providing rear-fire support, according to Lee Seong Kweun, a lawmaker who attended the agency’s briefing.
The agency said memos found on dead North Korean soldiers indicated that they had been ordered to commit suicide before being captured, according to Lee. The agency said one North Korean soldier, facing the threat of being captured by Ukrainian forces, shouted “General Kim Jong Un” and tried to detonate a hand grenade before he was shot and killed.
Zelenskyy confirmed the capture of the North Korean soldiers on Saturday, days after Ukraine, facing a slow Russian onslaught in the east, began pressing new attacks in Kursk to retain ground captured in a lightning incursion in August — the first occupation of Russian territory since World War II.
Moscow’s counterattack has left Ukrainian forces outstretched and demoralized, killing and wounding thousands and retaking more than 40% of the 984 square kilometers (380 square miles) of Kursk that Ukraine had seized.
Another disadvantage for the North Koreans is that they are not conducting independent operations but are being thrust into combat under Russian commanders, possibly struggling with unfamiliar tactics and communication issues due to language barriers, said Moon, who has taken part in numerous military talks with North Korea. The North Korean forces could be operating special surveillance teams to arrest or execute attempted deserters, he said.
“The current battlefield environment, combined with drones and other technologies, have created situations North Korean soldiers have never encountered before,” Moon said. “They are also being deployed in large numbers in wide-open fields, where there is no place to hide, in continuous battles to retake the area, and that seems to be where the casualties are coming from.”
North Korea’s decadeslong financial troubles, which have forced many soldiers to grow their own food or spend long hours deployed in construction and other work to sustain the national economy, could also have impacted the quality of training they receive at home, Moon said.
Still, there are concerns in Seoul that North Korea’s participation in the Ukraine crisis poses a significant threat to South Korea, as North Korean forces may gain crucial combat experience and Russia may provide technology transfers that could enhance North Korea’s nuclear-armed army.
__ Associated Press writer Samya Kullab in Kyiv, Ukraine contributed to this report.
KIM TONG-HYUNG
Kim has been covering the Koreas for the AP since 2014. He has published widely read stories on North Korea’s nuclear ambitions, the dark side of South Korea’s economic rise and international adoptions of Korean children.
The Yonhap agency, citing South Korean intelligence, reports that at least 300 North Korean military personnel have been killed in the war against Ukraine, with approximately 2,700 more injured.
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MUOKKAUS: tuo yllä lainattu on vain yksi tiedonmurunen tästä pidemmästä AP artikkelista:
Seoul’s spy agency says North Korean soldiers captured in Ukraine haven’t shown desire to defect
Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, and North Korean leader Kim Jong Un shake hands during their meeting at the Vostochny cosmodrome outside of Tsiolkovsky, in the far eastern Amur region, Russia on Sept. 13, 2023. (Vladimir Smirnov/Sputnik Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, File)
BY KIM TONG-HYUNG
Updated 12:39 PM GMT+2,
January 13, 2025
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korea’s spy agency told lawmakers on Monday that two North Korean soldiers who were captured by Ukrainian forces while fighting alongside Russian forces in Russia’s Kursk border region haven’t expressed a desire to seek asylum in South Korea.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has said he’s willing to hand over the soldiers to North Korea if the country’s authoritarian leader, Kim Jong Un, arranges for an exchange with Ukrainian prisoners of war in Russia. Zelenskyy said one of the North Korean soldiers wishes to stay in Ukraine while the other wants to return to his country, which was consistent with interview videos released by his government. “If Kim Jong Un even remembers these citizens of his and is capable of organizing an exchange for our warriors being held in Russia, we are ready to transfer such soldiers. Undoubtedly there will be more POWs from North Korea,” Zelenskyy said in an address late Sunday. He said in a separate posting on the social media platform X that “there may be other options” for North Korean prisoners who don’t wish to go back.
In a closed-door briefing at South Korea’s National Assembly, the National Intelligence Service confirmed its participation in the questioning of the North Korean soldiers by Ukrainian authorities. The agency said the soldiers haven’t expressed a request to resettle in South Korea, according to two lawmakers who attended the meeting.
The agency said it was willing to discuss the matter with Ukrainian authorities if the soldiers eventually do ask to go to South Korea. About 34,000 North Koreans have defected to capitalist rival South Korea to avoid economic hardship and political suppression at home, mostly since the late 1990s.
Koo Byoungsam, spokesperson of South Korea’s Unification Ministry, which handles inter-Korean affairs, said facilitating the asylum of the North Korean soldiers would require “legal reviews, including on international law, and consultations with related nations.”
“There’s nothing we can say at the current stage,” Koo said.
Seoul says about 300 North Korean troops killed in combat
Seoul’s spy agency believes that about 300 North Korean soldiers have died and another 2,700 have been injured while fighting against Ukrainian forces, in what represents North Korea’s first involvement in large-scale conflict since the 1950-53 Korean War.The agency assessed that the North Koreans are struggling to adapt to drones and other elements of modern warfare. They are further disadvantaged by the crude tactics of their Russian commanders, who have thrown them in assault campaigns without providing rear-fire support, according to Lee Seong Kweun, a lawmaker who attended the agency’s briefing.
The agency said memos found on dead North Korean soldiers indicated that they had been ordered to commit suicide before being captured, according to Lee. The agency said one North Korean soldier, facing the threat of being captured by Ukrainian forces, shouted “General Kim Jong Un” and tried to detonate a hand grenade before he was shot and killed.
Zelenskyy confirmed the capture of the North Korean soldiers on Saturday, days after Ukraine, facing a slow Russian onslaught in the east, began pressing new attacks in Kursk to retain ground captured in a lightning incursion in August — the first occupation of Russian territory since World War II.
Moscow’s counterattack has left Ukrainian forces outstretched and demoralized, killing and wounding thousands and retaking more than 40% of the 984 square kilometers (380 square miles) of Kursk that Ukraine had seized.
North Koreans struggle to adapt to Kursk terrain, modern warfare
Moon Seong Mook, a retired South Korean brigadier general, said the high death toll for North Korean soldiers was predictable, as they would not have been sufficiently prepared for an unfamiliar mission in the terrain of the Kursk region, which is vastly different from North Korea’s mountainous landscape.Another disadvantage for the North Koreans is that they are not conducting independent operations but are being thrust into combat under Russian commanders, possibly struggling with unfamiliar tactics and communication issues due to language barriers, said Moon, who has taken part in numerous military talks with North Korea. The North Korean forces could be operating special surveillance teams to arrest or execute attempted deserters, he said.
“The current battlefield environment, combined with drones and other technologies, have created situations North Korean soldiers have never encountered before,” Moon said. “They are also being deployed in large numbers in wide-open fields, where there is no place to hide, in continuous battles to retake the area, and that seems to be where the casualties are coming from.”
North Korea’s decadeslong financial troubles, which have forced many soldiers to grow their own food or spend long hours deployed in construction and other work to sustain the national economy, could also have impacted the quality of training they receive at home, Moon said.
Still, there are concerns in Seoul that North Korea’s participation in the Ukraine crisis poses a significant threat to South Korea, as North Korean forces may gain crucial combat experience and Russia may provide technology transfers that could enhance North Korea’s nuclear-armed army.
__ Associated Press writer Samya Kullab in Kyiv, Ukraine contributed to this report.
KIM TONG-HYUNG
Kim has been covering the Koreas for the AP since 2014. He has published widely read stories on North Korea’s nuclear ambitions, the dark side of South Korea’s economic rise and international adoptions of Korean children.
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Ei kai ne ukrainalaiset nyt omia vaunujaan ammu? Tuo on venäläinen blogisti joka kirjoittaa omasta näkökulmastaan, eli ukrainalaisten vaunuista ja ATGM:stä.
rty19
Greatest Leader
Olisko näitä RPG-xx aseita. Lentää kauemmas kuin kessi mutta osuminen vaikeampaa kuin jalustalta ammuttavissa tai Javelinit yms.
Kirjoittajan mukaan venäläiset pysäyttää UA:n hyökkäykset vasta etulinjassa (ehkä niillä pst-ohjuksilla?), kun taas UA tuhoaa Venäjän vaunut jo takalinjojen ryhmitysalueilla. Ukrainan tankit myös pystyy lyhyisiin suora-ammuntataisteluihin, koska Venäjältä puuttuu drooneja ja tykistöä.
Antares
Respected Leader
Mielenkiintoinen suuri laskelma, tässä on yhdessä taulukossa ryssän ilmavoimien koneet ja niiden sijainti eri sotilaslentokenttien mukaisesti.
Tämä ei ole ajantasainen ja tässä voi olla jokin määrä duplikaatteja, mikäli eri satelliittikuvien ottamisen välillä yksi hävittäjä olisi siirtynyt alkuperäisestä sijainnistaan toiseen sijaintiin.
Osa kuvista on vanhempia, koska tämä on paras mitä pystyy tekemään ilmaisilla Google Maps satelliittikuvilla.
Silti hyvin mielenkiintoista enkä muista nähneeni vastaavanlaista laskelmaa aikaisemmin. Yksittäisten sotilaslentokenttien osalta kyllä ja osa niistä on ollut hyvinkin tuoreita mutta tällainen suurempi kokonaiskuva, en muista nähneeni.
Lainasin alle twitter-ketjun koko tekstin mutta ainoastaan suuren taulukkokuvan (spoilerin takana), jätin muut kuvat pois eli ne voi katsoa twitteristä jos kiinnostaa:
A count of Russian airframes stored at the 114 airbases, airfields and airports identified by @Archer83Able, done in consultation with @Jompy
and @Highmarsed.
Accompanying notes are further below for context and clarification, and Jompy will update the spreadsheet shortly.
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Obviously, the dates of the Google imagery are quite disparate, meaning possible and likely miscounting on this basis. Alternatively, recent commercial satellite imagery would run over US$34K, so this is the best that we can do.
Some of the locations are test centres, flight schools and civilian or mixed-use airports. Nevertheless, the airframes present there are included in the count.
Russo-Ukrainian war losses, relocations and reorganisations are not accounted for in this count – it is merely an inventory take. Some of the bases have almost certainly been relocated.
Only whole frames are counted – any of the ones with wholly or partly missing rotor blades, tails, engines, wings, etc., are excluded.
Only clearly modern military airframes are counted. Any of the airframes that are civilian/museum/display/airshow are excluded.
The condition of the airframes is varied, but no assessment is made on their integrity or airworthiness.
‘Unknown planes’ are all transport (as I've struggled with some) and ‘Unknown helicopters’ are probably a mix of attack and transport. The quality of some imagery is at times quite poor.
The Su-27, 30 and 35 jets are nearly identical visually, so they are clustered up.
I've recorded as many hangars and bunkers as I could see - I'm sure I've missed and misidentified a fair few, though. It is unclear if any airframes are inside. Sometimes, airframes are immediately out in front of the hangars and bunkers.
Corrections/suggestions/updates are all very welcome - please DM me with any. I am otherwise 99% confident in the identification of the fighter jets, though occasional Su-34 vs Su-27/30/35 confusion may happen.
Tämä ei ole ajantasainen ja tässä voi olla jokin määrä duplikaatteja, mikäli eri satelliittikuvien ottamisen välillä yksi hävittäjä olisi siirtynyt alkuperäisestä sijainnistaan toiseen sijaintiin.
Osa kuvista on vanhempia, koska tämä on paras mitä pystyy tekemään ilmaisilla Google Maps satelliittikuvilla.
Silti hyvin mielenkiintoista enkä muista nähneeni vastaavanlaista laskelmaa aikaisemmin. Yksittäisten sotilaslentokenttien osalta kyllä ja osa niistä on ollut hyvinkin tuoreita mutta tällainen suurempi kokonaiskuva, en muista nähneeni.
Lainasin alle twitter-ketjun koko tekstin mutta ainoastaan suuren taulukkokuvan (spoilerin takana), jätin muut kuvat pois eli ne voi katsoa twitteristä jos kiinnostaa:
A count of Russian airframes stored at the 114 airbases, airfields and airports identified by @Archer83Able, done in consultation with @Jompy
and @Highmarsed.
Accompanying notes are further below for context and clarification, and Jompy will update the spreadsheet shortly.
-
Obviously, the dates of the Google imagery are quite disparate, meaning possible and likely miscounting on this basis. Alternatively, recent commercial satellite imagery would run over US$34K, so this is the best that we can do.
Some of the locations are test centres, flight schools and civilian or mixed-use airports. Nevertheless, the airframes present there are included in the count.
Russo-Ukrainian war losses, relocations and reorganisations are not accounted for in this count – it is merely an inventory take. Some of the bases have almost certainly been relocated.
Only whole frames are counted – any of the ones with wholly or partly missing rotor blades, tails, engines, wings, etc., are excluded.
Only clearly modern military airframes are counted. Any of the airframes that are civilian/museum/display/airshow are excluded.
The condition of the airframes is varied, but no assessment is made on their integrity or airworthiness.
‘Unknown planes’ are all transport (as I've struggled with some) and ‘Unknown helicopters’ are probably a mix of attack and transport. The quality of some imagery is at times quite poor.
The Su-27, 30 and 35 jets are nearly identical visually, so they are clustered up.
I've recorded as many hangars and bunkers as I could see - I'm sure I've missed and misidentified a fair few, though. It is unclear if any airframes are inside. Sometimes, airframes are immediately out in front of the hangars and bunkers.
Corrections/suggestions/updates are all very welcome - please DM me with any. I am otherwise 99% confident in the identification of the fighter jets, though occasional Su-34 vs Su-27/30/35 confusion may happen.
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-TripleX-
Respected Leader
Nyt ensimmäinen RCH 155 kurvailee jo Ukrainassa.
Muistuu kyllä mieleen kuinka oli muutamat sanomassa, että ei ne tähän sotaan koskaan ehdi, mutta siellä vain ensimmäiset jo tappavat ryssiä kuten kuuluukin.
Puhuvan pään on jo käsketty esitellä pienempiä aluevaatimuksia, ryssä taitaa tajuta, että takkiin tulee ja pahasti, ei sieltä muuten tällaisia päästetä sanomaan.
Ja kuten sanottu aiemmin, mikäli ryssä jäisi edes näille sijoilleen, se tulee taloudellisesti kaatumaan kun Puola ja Ukraina aloittavat kaasu- ja öljyputkiyhteistyön.
Muistuu kyllä mieleen kuinka oli muutamat sanomassa, että ei ne tähän sotaan koskaan ehdi, mutta siellä vain ensimmäiset jo tappavat ryssiä kuten kuuluukin.
Puhuvan pään on jo käsketty esitellä pienempiä aluevaatimuksia, ryssä taitaa tajuta, että takkiin tulee ja pahasti, ei sieltä muuten tällaisia päästetä sanomaan.
Ja kuten sanottu aiemmin, mikäli ryssä jäisi edes näille sijoilleen, se tulee taloudellisesti kaatumaan kun Puola ja Ukraina aloittavat kaasu- ja öljyputkiyhteistyön.
taantumu
Ylipäällikkö
Peskovin mukaan Ukraina harrastaa energiaterrorismia sillä ukrainalaiset iskivät Turkkiin menevän kaausputkiston pumppausasemalle.
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/22867649
teknohippi
Ylipäällikkö
Ei tullut ryssälle mieleen että kun tilanne perkelöytyy niin sitten sattuu.. Nyt Ukrainalla alkaa olla aseet kohdillaan niin alkaa tulemaan näitä osumia jotka kirpaisee kunnolla Kremlissä asti. Tästä parhaana esimerkkinä on aina peskoin paskonta. Kannattaa piirtää se viiva siitä Ukrainan rajalta sinne muutamaan sataan kilometriin ja rastia jo valmiiksi kaikki arvokas menetetyksi siinä excelissä. Varsinkin jos sitä ei voi siirtää.
Ainiin, mutta kaikkihan torjuttiin siellä pumppuasemallakin, joten mitä se peskoi tuossa ripuloi?
Antares
Respected Leader
Fico vieraili hetki sitten Moskovassa ja julkaisi tänään Facebook-kirjoituksen, jossa ehdotti Zelenskylle tapaamista. Laitoin ko. kirjoituksen käännöksen spoilerin taakse.
Zelensky kirjoittaa suostuvansa, mutta ainoastaan jos Fico tulee Kiovaan perjantaina.
Ok. Come to Kyiv on Friday.
Zelensky kirjoittaa suostuvansa, mutta ainoastaan jos Fico tulee Kiovaan perjantaina.
Ok. Come to Kyiv on Friday.
Robert Fico
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OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT V. ZELENSKY
Dear President Volodymyr Zelensky,
Your decision to stop the transit of gas through Ukraine towards Slovakia and to other customers causes extensive damage to Ukraine itself, Slovakia and the European Union in particular.
It provokes diverse reactions, which does not contribute to either bilateral or multilateral relations.
I do not intend to respond to your statement of Sunday, January 12, 2025, because I do not intend to further escalate the tension. I want to fully concentrate on solving the situation related to the stoppage of gas transit.
As Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic, I have different opinions in several areas than you present. Above all, I do not believe in the strategy that the continuation of mutual bloodshed in the war in Ukraine leads to the strengthening of Ukraine's positions in possible peace negotiations.
During all my trips abroad, I stress the need for an immediate end to the fighting, I support the existing peace plans and I propose that peace negotiations at any level be held in Slovakia as well.
I also have a different opinion on your decision to stop gas transit through the territory of Ukraine. My position is not alone in Europe. Even if I do not consider it completely decisive that the Slovak Republic loses around 500 million annually due to the stoppage of gas transit. Euro, the most decisive is the impact of your decision on the competitiveness of the European Union, the organization in which you are applying for membership.
In this spirit, I also negotiated with the relevant member of the European Commission - Commissioner for Energy D. Jørgensen and his team. The decisions taken at this meeting confirm the seriousness of the situation, and for this reason I appeal to the Ukrainian side to actively participate in further negotiations and the work of a special working group created for this purpose.
Dear Mr. President,
The Slovak Republic has demonstrated and continues to demonstrate a great degree of solidarity with your citizens living in Ukraine or on the territory of Slovakia. The joint negotiations of the governments of the Slovak Republic and Ukraine also bring good results. I would like to continue a constructive dialogue based on mutual respect with the Prime Minister of Ukraine D. Shmyhaľ. Therefore, allow me, as the highest representative of the Slovak executive, to invite you to a meeting, preferably in the near future, while fully understanding the seriousness of your work agenda.
The meeting can take place on the territory of the Slovak Republic near the state borders between Slovakia and Ukraine. It is quite symbolic that you could use the direct train connection from Kyiv to Košice for transport to Slovak territory, which is the result of the joint efforts of our governments.
Such a meeting will create good conditions for an open conversation about gas supplies to Slovakia and to other countries through the territory of Ukraine, about possible technical solutions taking into account the expiration of the contract between the relevant Ukrainian and Russian company on December 31, 2024, about the impact of stopping gas transit through Ukraine on the declining competitiveness of the European economy, and about the development of bilateral Slovak-Ukrainian relationships.
With respect
Robert Fico
Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic
2h
OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT V. ZELENSKY
Dear President Volodymyr Zelensky,
Your decision to stop the transit of gas through Ukraine towards Slovakia and to other customers causes extensive damage to Ukraine itself, Slovakia and the European Union in particular.
It provokes diverse reactions, which does not contribute to either bilateral or multilateral relations.
I do not intend to respond to your statement of Sunday, January 12, 2025, because I do not intend to further escalate the tension. I want to fully concentrate on solving the situation related to the stoppage of gas transit.
As Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic, I have different opinions in several areas than you present. Above all, I do not believe in the strategy that the continuation of mutual bloodshed in the war in Ukraine leads to the strengthening of Ukraine's positions in possible peace negotiations.
During all my trips abroad, I stress the need for an immediate end to the fighting, I support the existing peace plans and I propose that peace negotiations at any level be held in Slovakia as well.
I also have a different opinion on your decision to stop gas transit through the territory of Ukraine. My position is not alone in Europe. Even if I do not consider it completely decisive that the Slovak Republic loses around 500 million annually due to the stoppage of gas transit. Euro, the most decisive is the impact of your decision on the competitiveness of the European Union, the organization in which you are applying for membership.
In this spirit, I also negotiated with the relevant member of the European Commission - Commissioner for Energy D. Jørgensen and his team. The decisions taken at this meeting confirm the seriousness of the situation, and for this reason I appeal to the Ukrainian side to actively participate in further negotiations and the work of a special working group created for this purpose.
Dear Mr. President,
The Slovak Republic has demonstrated and continues to demonstrate a great degree of solidarity with your citizens living in Ukraine or on the territory of Slovakia. The joint negotiations of the governments of the Slovak Republic and Ukraine also bring good results. I would like to continue a constructive dialogue based on mutual respect with the Prime Minister of Ukraine D. Shmyhaľ. Therefore, allow me, as the highest representative of the Slovak executive, to invite you to a meeting, preferably in the near future, while fully understanding the seriousness of your work agenda.
The meeting can take place on the territory of the Slovak Republic near the state borders between Slovakia and Ukraine. It is quite symbolic that you could use the direct train connection from Kyiv to Košice for transport to Slovak territory, which is the result of the joint efforts of our governments.
Such a meeting will create good conditions for an open conversation about gas supplies to Slovakia and to other countries through the territory of Ukraine, about possible technical solutions taking into account the expiration of the contract between the relevant Ukrainian and Russian company on December 31, 2024, about the impact of stopping gas transit through Ukraine on the declining competitiveness of the European economy, and about the development of bilateral Slovak-Ukrainian relationships.
With respect
Robert Fico
Prime Minister of the Slovak Republic
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StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Hähä. Mitäs läksit.