Ukrainan konflikti/sota
Venäjä on vääntänyt omat tappionsa suoraan ukrainalaisten menetyksiksi... Unohtaen senkin ettei Ukrainalla ole koskaan ollutkaan tuollaista määrää kalustioa. "Tiltu" osoittaa tässä hieman kehnoa mielikuvitusta..
- lienee vahingossa unohtanut tiedottaa kymmenien "ukrainalaisten kenraalien" kuolemasta..(vaikka hautajaiset on pidetty Venäjällä)
Toisaalta tämä kertoo toki siitäkin että Venäjä luottaa oman mediansa ja sensuurinsa aukottomuuteen.
- kansa uskoo kaiken mitä kerrotaan - vai uskookohan?
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
Mariupolin tilanne, jo pidempään ollut toivoton.
Kaupungissa olevien siviilien kannalta. Toivotaan, että venäläiset sotilaat toimivat kuten sotilas toimii. Eivät ryhdy barbaria-terroriin.
Väitetysti, Ukrainan joukoille annettu määrä-aika, 05 paikallista aikaa 21.3. mennessä antautumiseen.
Kaupungissa olevien siviilien kannalta. Toivotaan, että venäläiset sotilaat toimivat kuten sotilas toimii. Eivät ryhdy barbaria-terroriin.
Väitetysti, Ukrainan joukoille annettu määrä-aika, 05 paikallista aikaa 21.3. mennessä antautumiseen.
Olet oikeassa että mikään tähän saakka nähty ei kyllä puhu venäläisten hyvän taistelumoraalin puolesta. Ehkä niitä on sitten peloteltu että ukrainalaiset kiduttaa ja kohtelee huonosti sotavankejaan, eivätkä siksi antaudu vaan luikkivat pakoon, toisaalta sitten jos siellä takana onkin tsetseenit odottamassa rintamakarkureita niin voisi kuvitella että sittenkin antautuminen ukrainalaisille olisi pienempi paha.
Aikanaanhan tuo sitten selviää, jotenkin vaan kuvittelisi että jos varovaistenkin arvioiden mukaan kuolleita venäläisiä olisi vaikka 4000, haavoittuneita 8000-12000, niin 500 vankia noihin lukuihin suhteutettuna on mielestäni todella vähän.
Huudan väliin sivulta 3591, että vankeja on vaihdettu venäläisten kanssa. Lisäksi osa saattaa olla päästetty menemään tai niitä ei ole vielä kirjanpidossa, jos ovat tuulitakkimiesten vangeiksi ottamia.
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
Russian forces are now present in all civilian neighborhoods in Ukraine’s strategic port city of Mariupol, where the battle for control has descended into house-to-house guerrilla warfare, Ukrainian military and city officials said Sunday.
The heavy fighting is complicating rescue efforts at a school that Ukrainian officials say Russian jets bombed Sunday. About 400 people had been sheltering at Art School No. 12, but with communication sparse, there is simply “no information” on how many might be trapped, Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko said. He noted that thousands have fled the city in recent days and that it was possible some at the school had evacuated.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu indicated Sunday that talks between Kyiv and Moscow are progressing, despite the ongoing attacks. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated his readiness to negotiate with Russia to end the 25-day-long war, warning Sunday that if a diplomatic solution isn’t reached, it could lead to “a third world war.”
Zelensky’s remarks came amid growing concern that the Russian military will double down on siege tactics and mass shelling — as it has in Mariupol — in its efforts to take metropolitan areas. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/20/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/
The heavy fighting is complicating rescue efforts at a school that Ukrainian officials say Russian jets bombed Sunday. About 400 people had been sheltering at Art School No. 12, but with communication sparse, there is simply “no information” on how many might be trapped, Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko said. He noted that thousands have fled the city in recent days and that it was possible some at the school had evacuated.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu indicated Sunday that talks between Kyiv and Moscow are progressing, despite the ongoing attacks. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated his readiness to negotiate with Russia to end the 25-day-long war, warning Sunday that if a diplomatic solution isn’t reached, it could lead to “a third world war.”
Zelensky’s remarks came amid growing concern that the Russian military will double down on siege tactics and mass shelling — as it has in Mariupol — in its efforts to take metropolitan areas. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/03/20/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-live-updates/
Solidsnake
Respected Leader
Jokunen valtra pitäisi myös saada myynninedistämisen takia mukaan
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
Uusi, tuen muoto? Latoon hinattavan kaluston avustava kalusto-toimitus? Kyllä. Tällekin.Jokunen valtra pitäisi myös saada myynninedistämisen takia mukaan
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
Venäläisen tieto-taidon, poistumisesta...
Salemann87
Korpraali
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
tietoa (vahvistamatonta)...
Viimeksi muokattu:
putkirassi
Kapteeni
Tuotesijoittelua, kuten kunnon elokuvissa, nyt Jontikka on linssinluteena
Katariina oli kaiken lisäksi saksalainen.
Pihkakoski
Ylipäällikkö
WaPo:n raportointia. Tälle päivälle.
DNIPRO, Ukraine — Russian forces are present in all civilian neighborhoods of Mariupol, as the battle for control of the strategic port city descends into house-to-house guerrilla warfare, Ukrainian military and city officials said Sunday.
“They are in the center, in the periphery, they are everywhere,” Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko said in an interview with The Washington Post. He said that over the past four days, the war has shifted into intense street fighting.
“Our boys are fighting back,” he said. “But it’s hard.”
Russian gunships have also been targeting the city for several days, Boychenko said. With communications cut, information from the city has been scant, but those fleeing have painted a picture of a city where Ukrainian forces are losing their grip.
Lt. Col. Sergiy Bachynskyj, a spokesman for the military hospital in Dnipro, a city nearly 200 miles northwest of Mariupol, said dozens of workers from the military hospital in Mariupol have evacuated in recent days. About 40 essential employees have remained, he said.
“They are in all the civilian quarters right now,” he said of the Russian forces.
Industrial areas linked to the city’s steel industry, meanwhile, are still in Ukrainian control. “It’s the main zone of fighting,” he said. “I’m not saying that there are no Ukrainian soldiers in other parts of the city, they just don’t control that territory.”
Petro Andryushchenko, an adviser to the Mariupol mayor’s office, said that, overall, there is “no complete control on either side.”
“Who can talk about controlling, when one building is Russian-occupied, and one is Ukrainian military,” he said.
“It was, is and always will be a Ukrainian city,” he added. “The Russian army can bomb everything in Mariupol, but that doesn’t mean Mariupol isn’t Ukrainian. That’s why they are bombing it completely.”
DNIPRO, Ukraine — Russian forces are present in all civilian neighborhoods of Mariupol, as the battle for control of the strategic port city descends into house-to-house guerrilla warfare, Ukrainian military and city officials said Sunday.
“They are in the center, in the periphery, they are everywhere,” Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boychenko said in an interview with The Washington Post. He said that over the past four days, the war has shifted into intense street fighting.
“Our boys are fighting back,” he said. “But it’s hard.”
Russian gunships have also been targeting the city for several days, Boychenko said. With communications cut, information from the city has been scant, but those fleeing have painted a picture of a city where Ukrainian forces are losing their grip.
Lt. Col. Sergiy Bachynskyj, a spokesman for the military hospital in Dnipro, a city nearly 200 miles northwest of Mariupol, said dozens of workers from the military hospital in Mariupol have evacuated in recent days. About 40 essential employees have remained, he said.
“They are in all the civilian quarters right now,” he said of the Russian forces.
Industrial areas linked to the city’s steel industry, meanwhile, are still in Ukrainian control. “It’s the main zone of fighting,” he said. “I’m not saying that there are no Ukrainian soldiers in other parts of the city, they just don’t control that territory.”
Petro Andryushchenko, an adviser to the Mariupol mayor’s office, said that, overall, there is “no complete control on either side.”
“Who can talk about controlling, when one building is Russian-occupied, and one is Ukrainian military,” he said.
“It was, is and always will be a Ukrainian city,” he added. “The Russian army can bomb everything in Mariupol, but that doesn’t mean Mariupol isn’t Ukrainian. That’s why they are bombing it completely.”
Hitto jos on totta. Tuo on varoitus Lukashenkalle.
