Ukrainan konflikti/sota
J0h1F
Respected Leader
Millään Venäjä ei kuitenkaan "keittelisi bensaa jopa puiden juurista". Prosessi (Fischer-Tropsch-prosessi) synteettisen bensiininkaltaisen polttoaineen valmistamiseksi on aivan eri kuin maaöljyn jalostaminen, eikä Venäjällä ole siihen teknologiaa. Jos öljynjalostus kyykkää, niin sitä menetettyä kapasiteettia ei korvata kuin korjaamalla laitokset tai rakentamalla uusia. Toki Venäjän etuna tässä on öljyteollisuuden mittava koko, joten tuotannon täysi lamauttaminen on hyvin vaikeaa.
Saksa yritti ja toimeenpanikin II maailmansodan aikana teollisen mittakaavan Fischer-Tropsch-prosessin käyttöönoton, koska Saksan hallitsemilla ja Saksalle ystävällismielisillä alueilla oli hyvin niukasti maaöljyä (lähinnä Romaniassa, jonka takia Saksa myös hyökkäsi sekä Pohjois-Afrikassa että Kaukasukselle, jotta öljylähteiden hallinta olisi tullut Saksalle), mutta paljon kivihiiltä, jota pystyi käyttämään Fischer-Tropsch-prosessin synteesikaasun lähteenä. Se ei ole liiketaloudellisesti kannattavaa, ainakaan vielä, koska maaöljyn jalostaminen on niin paljon halvempaa, ja maaöljyä on riittämiin.
Viimeksi muokattu:
Antares
Respected Leader
Ryssäläinen Rybar valittaa että Ukraina on iskenyt Krimillä erityisesti tutkia vastaan sen sijaan että iskisi ohjuslavetteihin. Tutkien lisäksi kohteina ovat olleet viestintävälineet (eng. comms infrastructure) sekä logistiikkakeskukset.
Kuvan aikajanasta nähdään että iskuja on ollut tiuhempaan elokuun ajan, tosin syyskuulle on merkitty vasta yksi isku.
Hän arvelee että tarkoituksena on heikentää vähä vähältä ryssän ilmatorjuntaa Krimillä ja avata "käytävä" suuremmille iskuille:
Russian milblogger Rybar reports that Ukraine has intensified strikes on western Crimea since August, focusing on radar stations within air defense systems rather than launchers.
He claims Ukraine is also targeting comms infrastructure and logistics hubs to reduce Russian detection capabilities at sea and in the air.
The goal, according to him, is to gradually weaken Crimea’s air defenses and open a corridor for larger attacks.
Kuvan aikajanasta nähdään että iskuja on ollut tiuhempaan elokuun ajan, tosin syyskuulle on merkitty vasta yksi isku.
Hän arvelee että tarkoituksena on heikentää vähä vähältä ryssän ilmatorjuntaa Krimillä ja avata "käytävä" suuremmille iskuille:
Russian milblogger Rybar reports that Ukraine has intensified strikes on western Crimea since August, focusing on radar stations within air defense systems rather than launchers.
He claims Ukraine is also targeting comms infrastructure and logistics hubs to reduce Russian detection capabilities at sea and in the air.
The goal, according to him, is to gradually weaken Crimea’s air defenses and open a corridor for larger attacks.
Antares
Respected Leader
Monenlaisesta yhteistyöstä on ollut puhetta aikaisemmin vaan en muista kuulleeni tästä (ehkä joku toinen muistaa?).
Spoilerin taakse lainattu Brittien MoD:n tiedote on julkaistu 10.9.2025 eli tuore tapaus sinänsä:
The UK, as part of the Octopus project, will develop and produce up to 1.000 interceptor drones per month for Ukraine.
This follows a new technology sharing agreement between the UK and Ukraine, which is the result of a deepening defence industrial partnership between the two states.
(Image of an unrelated Ukrainian interceptor UAV)
https://gov.uk/government/news/grou...-agreement-to-deliver-drones-and-support-jobs
Spoilerin taakse lainattu Brittien MoD:n tiedote on julkaistu 10.9.2025 eli tuore tapaus sinänsä:
The UK, as part of the Octopus project, will develop and produce up to 1.000 interceptor drones per month for Ukraine.
This follows a new technology sharing agreement between the UK and Ukraine, which is the result of a deepening defence industrial partnership between the two states.
(Image of an unrelated Ukrainian interceptor UAV)
https://gov.uk/government/news/grou...-agreement-to-deliver-drones-and-support-jobs
Press release
From:Ministry of Defence, The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP and The Rt Hon John Healey MP
Published10 September 2025
The UK will manufacture and jointly develop cutting-edge military equipment with Ukrainian industry through a groundbreaking new technology sharing agreement which will support British jobs and strengthen both UK and Ukrainian national security.
The first joint project, to be announced at the DSEI trade show in London tomorrow (Thursday), is an advanced new air defence interceptor drone, named Project OCTOPUS, which will be mass produced in the UK, with a target to produce thousands per month to provide to Ukraine to support its ongoing fight for freedom against Putin’s illegal full-scale invasion.
Interceptor drones are considerably cheaper than regular air defence missiles and are proving to be highly effective in countering the waves of one-way attack drones Russia continues to launch at Ukraine’s cities. They fly quickly to intercept incoming drones and missiles, destroying them before they reach their targets.
They will help Ukraine defend against aerial attacks such as Russia’s reckless overnight attack against western Ukraine, which saw Poland and NATO scramble to intercept Russian drones that entered Polish airspace. The Prime Minister and Defence Secretary both condemned Russia’s attack, voicing support for Poland.
The new tech sharing agreement has been made possible as a result of the growing industrial partnership between the UK and Ukraine, announced by the Prime Minister after meeting President Zelenskyy this summer. Last week, Defence Secretary John Healey visited Kyiv and signed an expansion to the partnership, allowing sharing and joint development of intellectual property.
The technology sharing arrangement is among the first of its kind signed with Ukraine, allowing for unprecedented collaboration between British and Ukrainian companies, in a move that provides options to expand industrial capacity and harness defence as an engine for growth – supporting investment and delivering on the government’s Plan for Change.
It comes as the government announced hundreds of millions of pounds of new investment through the Defence Industrial Strategy this week to make defence an engine for growth, with £250 million of new funding to for new defence growth deals across the UK, and £182m to fund a new skills package to be delivered by five new defence technical excellence colleges, to train and upskill thousands of workers.
The Defence Secretary will hail the new strategy in his speech at the DSEI defence trade show in London on Thursday afternoon.
The Defence Secretary has hosted his Ukrainian counterpart, Denys Shmyhal, and other European Defence Ministers in London this week for the latest meeting of the 50-nation strong group dedicated to providing military support for Ukraine, co-led by the UK and Germany. During the Ukraine Defence Contact Group meeting, he confirmed the UK-led International Fund for Ukraine had surpassed £2 billion in funding commitments from the UK and 11 other countries.
The growing industrial collaboration delivers on the 100-Year Partnership signed between the UK and Ukraine in January, while supporting the priorities set out by the Defence Secretary to ensure Ukraine is supported to defend itself against Putin’s illegal invasion now, as well as to deter against threats in the future.
The Prime Minister and Defence Secretary have both highlighted how supporting Ukraine is essential to the security of Europe and the UK, with national security acting as a foundation of the government’s Plan for Change.
The UK remains fully committed to securing a just and lasting peace in Ukraine and is engaging with key allies in support of this effort, which is why £4.5bn is being spent on military support to Ukraine this year, the largest amount provided to date. Last month on Ukrainian Independence Day, the Defence Secretary confirmed the UK’s world-leading programme of training for Ukrainian recruits would continue through 2026.
In March, the Prime Minister announced a historic £1.6 billion deal to provide more than five thousand air defence missiles for Ukraine - creating 200 new jobs and supporting a further 700. The UK will also invest a record £350m this year to increase the supply of drones to Ukraine from a target of 10,000 in 2024 to 100,000 in 2025.
The government’s new Defence Industrial Strategy will equip the UK workforce with the expertise needed to meet the new era of threat set out in the Strategic Defence Review and the demands of a rapidly evolving defence sector to innovate at a wartime pace.
Groundbreaking Ukraine tech sharing agreement to deliver drones and support jobs
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From:Ministry of Defence, The Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer KCB KC MP and The Rt Hon John Healey MP
Published10 September 2025
The UK will manufacture and jointly develop cutting-edge military equipment with Ukrainian industry through a groundbreaking new technology sharing agreement which will support British jobs and strengthen both UK and Ukrainian national security.
The first joint project, to be announced at the DSEI trade show in London tomorrow (Thursday), is an advanced new air defence interceptor drone, named Project OCTOPUS, which will be mass produced in the UK, with a target to produce thousands per month to provide to Ukraine to support its ongoing fight for freedom against Putin’s illegal full-scale invasion.
Interceptor drones are considerably cheaper than regular air defence missiles and are proving to be highly effective in countering the waves of one-way attack drones Russia continues to launch at Ukraine’s cities. They fly quickly to intercept incoming drones and missiles, destroying them before they reach their targets.
They will help Ukraine defend against aerial attacks such as Russia’s reckless overnight attack against western Ukraine, which saw Poland and NATO scramble to intercept Russian drones that entered Polish airspace. The Prime Minister and Defence Secretary both condemned Russia’s attack, voicing support for Poland.
The new tech sharing agreement has been made possible as a result of the growing industrial partnership between the UK and Ukraine, announced by the Prime Minister after meeting President Zelenskyy this summer. Last week, Defence Secretary John Healey visited Kyiv and signed an expansion to the partnership, allowing sharing and joint development of intellectual property.
The technology sharing arrangement is among the first of its kind signed with Ukraine, allowing for unprecedented collaboration between British and Ukrainian companies, in a move that provides options to expand industrial capacity and harness defence as an engine for growth – supporting investment and delivering on the government’s Plan for Change.
It comes as the government announced hundreds of millions of pounds of new investment through the Defence Industrial Strategy this week to make defence an engine for growth, with £250 million of new funding to for new defence growth deals across the UK, and £182m to fund a new skills package to be delivered by five new defence technical excellence colleges, to train and upskill thousands of workers.
The Defence Secretary will hail the new strategy in his speech at the DSEI defence trade show in London on Thursday afternoon.
Prime Minister, Keir Starmer, said:
Defence Secretary John Healey MP said:
The drone developed under Project OCTOPUS was designed by Ukraine with support from UK scientists and technicians and has already proved successful on the battlefield, proving highly effective against the Shahed one-way attack drone variants used by Russia – despite costing less than 10% to produce than the drones they are designed to intercept.
The Defence Secretary has hosted his Ukrainian counterpart, Denys Shmyhal, and other European Defence Ministers in London this week for the latest meeting of the 50-nation strong group dedicated to providing military support for Ukraine, co-led by the UK and Germany. During the Ukraine Defence Contact Group meeting, he confirmed the UK-led International Fund for Ukraine had surpassed £2 billion in funding commitments from the UK and 11 other countries.
The growing industrial collaboration delivers on the 100-Year Partnership signed between the UK and Ukraine in January, while supporting the priorities set out by the Defence Secretary to ensure Ukraine is supported to defend itself against Putin’s illegal invasion now, as well as to deter against threats in the future.
The Prime Minister and Defence Secretary have both highlighted how supporting Ukraine is essential to the security of Europe and the UK, with national security acting as a foundation of the government’s Plan for Change.
The UK remains fully committed to securing a just and lasting peace in Ukraine and is engaging with key allies in support of this effort, which is why £4.5bn is being spent on military support to Ukraine this year, the largest amount provided to date. Last month on Ukrainian Independence Day, the Defence Secretary confirmed the UK’s world-leading programme of training for Ukrainian recruits would continue through 2026.
In March, the Prime Minister announced a historic £1.6 billion deal to provide more than five thousand air defence missiles for Ukraine - creating 200 new jobs and supporting a further 700. The UK will also invest a record £350m this year to increase the supply of drones to Ukraine from a target of 10,000 in 2024 to 100,000 in 2025.
The government’s new Defence Industrial Strategy will equip the UK workforce with the expertise needed to meet the new era of threat set out in the Strategic Defence Review and the demands of a rapidly evolving defence sector to innovate at a wartime pace.
Antares
Respected Leader
Tässä myös kryptinen ja outo viesti, asialla Andriy Yermak (titteli = Head of the Presidential Office, Ukraine) - paremman tiedon puutteessa kaikenlaisia villejä spekulaatioita on tietysti liikkeellä:
Head of the Presidential Office Andriy Yermak just posted a cryptic message and people are already guessing what it means.
More Swedish financed air defense systems on the way?
Or maybe even Gripens?
Head of the Presidential Office Andriy Yermak just posted a cryptic message and people are already guessing what it means.
More Swedish financed air defense systems on the way?
Or maybe even Gripens?
Puurokulho
Kapteeni
Ukrainan armeija päättäny alottaa laajamittasen kemiallisen sodankäynnin etulinjan ryssäjoukkoja vastaan ja osana kampanjaa Ruotsi on luvannu toimittaa 35 tonnia surströmming purkkeja dronejoukoille /s
teknohippi
Ylipäällikkö
Ei ole ylläolevaan verrannollinen asejärjestelmä, mutta Saabin GLSDB v2:sta on odoteltu jo keväästä lähtien massoissa käyttöön.
Maidan
Respected Leader
Razumkov-keskuksen kesäkuussa 2024 julkaiseman tiedon mukaan 95 % väestöstä määrittelee itsensä etnisiksi ukrainalaisiksi (verrattuna 74 %:iin vuonna 2017). Samalla 91 % on ylpeitä Ukrainan kansalaisuudestaan, mikä on korkein lukema itsenäisyyden aikakaudella (verrattuna 68 %:iin vuonna 2015 ja 62 %:iin vuonna 2000). Erityisen tärkeää on, että 84 % uskoo vain yhteen kansalliseen identiteettiin (kasvua 74 %:sta vuonna 2017), mikä osoittaa ns. "kaksoistietoisuuden" merkittävää voittamista, joka oli ominaista Neuvostoliiton jälkeiselle ajalle.
Nykypäivän ukrainalaisten paradoksaalinen piirre on korkean stressitason ja optimismin säilymisen yhdistelmä. KMIS-tutkimuksen (2024) mukaan 90 % ukrainalaisista on kohdannut ainakin yhden stressaavan tilanteen, mutta samaan aikaan 61,7 % pitää itseään onnellisena sodasta huolimatta.
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Viimeksi näin kuvan kampaamosta, vaikka liikeen näyttöikkuna on mennyt iskussa muruksi, asiakkaat tulivat paikalle ja väriä laitettiin. Valitettavasti en muista, onko postanut valokuvan. Ihmiset jotka ovat siellä jatkavat arkia, vaikka sota on, ja suru ja pelko koskettavissa, he uskovat, välillä tuntuu että toivo mennyt, mutta elämä vain jatkuu.
Nykypäivän ukrainalaisten paradoksaalinen piirre on korkean stressitason ja optimismin säilymisen yhdistelmä. KMIS-tutkimuksen (2024) mukaan 90 % ukrainalaisista on kohdannut ainakin yhden stressaavan tilanteen, mutta samaan aikaan 61,7 % pitää itseään onnellisena sodasta huolimatta.
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Viimeksi näin kuvan kampaamosta, vaikka liikeen näyttöikkuna on mennyt iskussa muruksi, asiakkaat tulivat paikalle ja väriä laitettiin. Valitettavasti en muista, onko postanut valokuvan. Ihmiset jotka ovat siellä jatkavat arkia, vaikka sota on, ja suru ja pelko koskettavissa, he uskovat, välillä tuntuu että toivo mennyt, mutta elämä vain jatkuu.
arix
Respected Leader
Sota on siltikin parempi kuin ryssän orjaksi joutuminen.
Ukraina tarjoilee pipareita ryssille
www.verkkouutiset.fi
Ukrainalta löytyy pirullinen uutuus: 3D-tulostettu miina eli "pipari" | Verkkouutiset
Ukrainalta löytyy pirullinen uutuus: 3D-tulostettu miina eli "pipari" | Verkkouutiset
www.verkkouutiset.fi
Pitkään meni enne kuin noista saatiin uutinen. Ukrainalta löytyy tuki sivusto josta saa 3d kuvat ja mitä tulostaa. En lähde linkkaa. Mutta ei ole uusi juttu noi kuoret. Tosin ei sielä käyttö tarkoitusta mainita. Sieltä löytyy noita 3d tulostetttavia esineitä aikamoinen liuta. osan kyllä voi päätellä mihin ne mee. Ite on tullu tulosteltua niitä pudotettavien kranaatien pyrstöjä ja runkoja.Ukraina tarjoilee pipareita ryssille
Ukrainalta löytyy pirullinen uutuus: 3D-tulostettu miina eli "pipari" | Verkkouutiset
Ukrainalta löytyy pirullinen uutuus: 3D-tulostettu miina eli "pipari" | Verkkouutiset
Antares
Respected Leader
Rintama on liikkunut tällä suunnalla hyvin vähän viime vuosina, mutta se ei tarkoita etteikö siellä tapahtuisi myös (tämä on Melitopol kaupungin pohjoispuolella, Dnipro-joen pullistuma näkyy alla olevassa kartassa):
The AFU attacked Russian forces near Mikhailovka. Apparently, the shelling was intensive. Mikhailovka, Zaporizhzhia region (occupied). The defense forces are dealing a massive blow to the occupiers' positions. According to on-site information and signs of burning, it's a real hell for the Russians there. Good.
The AFU attacked Russian forces near Mikhailovka. Apparently, the shelling was intensive. Mikhailovka, Zaporizhzhia region (occupied). The defense forces are dealing a massive blow to the occupiers' positions. According to on-site information and signs of burning, it's a real hell for the Russians there. Good.
Antares
Respected Leader
Ruotsin puolustusministeri Pål Jonson listasi osan paketin sisällöstä, erityisen mielenkiintoinen on tämä "additional secret systems and projects are also included, but their introduction will have to be saved for the battlefield" (hyvä Ruotsi!):
Today Sweden presented UA support package 20, worth $836 million. It contains among other things, 18 new Archer systems, an extension of Sweden's long-term military aid to Ukraine with $3.6 billion yearly 2026-2027, and $900 million in yearly civil funding 2026-2028.
We will procure 18 new Archer systems & more 155mm ammunition worth $327 million. This brings Ukraine´s total Archer inventory up to 44 systems. When I visited the UA company using Archer last month, they confirmed the effectiveness against Russian targets and attacks.
At the marine domain we will procure materiel worth $190 million. Among other things mobile costal radar systems, new marine support vessels with grenade launches & unmanned systems. The 32 donated Combat boat 90 will get additional sensors, weapons systems and radars.
The Swedish Armed forces will donate equipment worth $12.7 million. It consists of 500 motorcycles and air base support equipment, such as trucks and tractors.
Donated Tridon Mk 2 anti-aircraft systems will get radar sensors and command systems. Additionally, more programmable 40mm anti-aircraft ammunition is being provided. Financial donations to a sum of $68 million to different capability coalitions is also included.
Additional secret systems and projects are also included, but their introduction will have to be saved for the battlefield. The Russian army can expect Swedish-Ukrainian surprises going forward. Sweden will continue to put hard pressure on Russia until they stop this war.
Viimeksi muokattu:
Antares
Respected Leader
Väitetysti Druzhba öljyputki olisi taas iskujen kohteena, tällä kertaa kirjoitetaan että ohjukset asialla eivätkä dronet (paras odottaa vahvistus tuloksista, jos sellainen saadaan):
Druzhba oil pipeline is being hit by missiles — the speed is about 700 km/h, — Ukrainian OSINT channels
Druzhba oil pipeline is being hit by missiles — the speed is about 700 km/h, — Ukrainian OSINT channels
Oisko uudet flamigot. Odotan edeleen Tanskan vastaust miinan raivaajiin ja Puolan vastausta ilmatilan loukkaokseen. Olen jeti varma että vastaus annetaan mutta voidaanko sitä sitten yhdistää mihinkään.
Kiusankpl
Respected Leader
Gulagit jälleen esillä Venäjällä:
700 000 pettynyttä sotilasta, jotka taistelevat Ukrainassa, eivät saa koskaan palata yhteiskuntaan sisällissodan alkamisen riskin vuoksi.
Sergei Karaganov (putinisti, professori, tohtori ja kansainvälisten suhteiden tutkija) tarjosi Kremlissä elegantin ratkaisun:
Heidät lähetetään Siperiaan "rakennustöihin".
700 000 pettynyttä sotilasta, jotka taistelevat Ukrainassa, eivät saa koskaan palata yhteiskuntaan sisällissodan alkamisen riskin vuoksi.
Sergei Karaganov (putinisti, professori, tohtori ja kansainvälisten suhteiden tutkija) tarjosi Kremlissä elegantin ratkaisun:
Heidät lähetetään Siperiaan "rakennustöihin".
Toi gulag laki on ollut voimassa noin 4kk rippuu lähteestä. voisin linkata tähän montakin inside russia yytube videoita mutta en linkaa kun hän ryssälästä ja kertoo niin kuin ryssälä menee , niin saa kenkää kun linkaa ryssän videoita. mutta ikävä kyllä sieltä se totuus lyötyy . joten inside russia seurantaan.
teknohippi
Ylipäällikkö
Kun nuo sijoittaa samoille Siperian alueille mitkä meinaa kiinalaistua niin on taas kaksi ongelmaa vähemmän kremlissä. Luovat myös mukavasti vastapainoa kaikenmaailman itsenäistymispyrkimyksille alueilla.