Uutisia Kiinasta

Kiinassa aseetkin tehdään halvemmalla

Museo kirjoitti:
En ole ikinä ymmärtänyt niitä piirejä jotka pitävät Kiinan vaikutusvallan kasvua jotenkin parempana vaihtoehtona kuin Yhdysvaltoja. Amerikoissa kun likaiset totuudet tulevat auttamatta joskus päivänvaloon ja hallinto pyrkii korjaamaan politiikkaansa. Kiina taas on diktatuuri jossa ei sallita sananvapautta eikä kritiikkiä. Millä hemmetin perusteella semmoinen valtio muka olisi meille jotenkin parempi kumppani?

Kiina on nöyrä kulutustavarantuottaja, joka lainoittaa mm. Irakin miehitystä ja Afganistanin sotaan luotottamalla Yhdysvaltain liittovaltiota.

Kiinaa ei pidä vaarallisena edes Yhdysvallat, joten Kiinan täytyy kuulua hyviksiin.

Toisaalta Yhdysvaltain unilateraalinen politiikka Bushin hallinnon aikana kyllästyttää edelleen monia, joten Yhdysvaltian hegemonian kohtuullistuttaminen on monen patriootin sydäntä lähellä Yhdysvaltain ulkopuolella.
 
Pomput kuin Beijing-oopperasta

Touhottaja kirjoitti:
Kiinalaiset armeijavideot on kyllä hassuja.

Kansan vapautusarmeijan videot ovat 4000 vuotta vanhan kulttuurin tuloksia.

Käy joskus Beijingissä katsomassa Peking-oopperaa ja vakuutu, miten vähäisillä kulisseilla ja suurella akrobatialla oopperaa voidaan tehdä ilmaisuvoimaisesti.

Hieman rahvaanomaisemman version sankarillisesta pomppuilusta voi saada vaikkapa hongkongilaisista Kung-Fu -elokuvista.

Armeijavideoissahan ei ole tarkoitus esitellä taistelukykyä, vaan henkistä puolustusvalmiutta. Näin ollen vakuuttavin sotilas on yhdistelmä Arnold Schwarzeneggeriä, Sylvester Stallonea, kung-fua ja Beijing -oopperaa.

Alikersantti Antero Rokkakin ottaisi muutaman Kung-Fu -potkun ja hyppisi kuin Beijing-ooppera balleriina kiinalaisessa kontekstissa ollakseen kova soturi.
 
Kiinalaisten uusin TEL.

http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2012/02/photo-of-day-ws9000-heavy-commercial.html

Kyydissä lienee mannertenvälinen DF-31 ohjus.
 
Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China

Russia and China may soon sign a $4-bln contract on the delivery of 48 Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-E fighter jets to the Chinese air force, Russia’s Kommersant business daily said on Tuesday.

“The sides have practically agreed on the delivery of 48 Su-35 multirole fighters, worth $4 billion, to China,” Kommersant said citing a source in the Russian defense industry.

According to the paper, the only obstacle remaining is Moscow’s demand that Beijing should guarantee the protection of copyrights on the production of Su-35s without proper licensing

http://en.rian.ru/world/20120306/171780246.html
 
kunnas kirjoitti:
Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China

Russia and China may soon sign a $4-bln contract on the delivery of 48 Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-E fighter jets to the Chinese air force, Russia’s Kommersant business daily said on Tuesday.

“The sides have practically agreed on the delivery of 48 Su-35 multirole fighters, worth $4 billion, to China,” Kommersant said citing a source in the Russian defense industry.

According to the paper, the only obstacle remaining is Moscow’s demand that Beijing should guarantee the protection of copyrights on the production of Su-35s without proper licensing

http://en.rian.ru/world/20120306/171780246.html

Kiinalaiset sanoivat ettei heillä ole aikomuksia ostaa SU-35 koneita.
 
China's Share of Global Arms Imports Falls, Sipri Says
China, the world’s top weapons importer for much of the past decade, fell to fourth from second on an annual list from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute as it produces more arms at home.

China received 5 percent of the volume of international transfers of “major conventional weapons” from 2007 to 2011, Sipri said in a report released today. The total was half that of India, which last year overtook China as the world’s largest recipient of arms, and less than South Korea and Pakistan.

“In certain sectors such as combat aircraft, with the exception of certain parts like engines, China is able to put together these systems largely from their own indigenous base now,” Paul Holtom, director of Sipri’s arms transfer program, said by phone. “India is still struggling there.”
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-18/china-buys-fewer-weapons-as-local-industry-expands-sipri-says.html
 
Teräsmies kirjoitti:
kunnas kirjoitti:
Russia Close to Sign Su-35 Fighter Deal With China

Russia and China may soon sign a $4-bln contract on the delivery of 48 Sukhoi Su-35 Flanker-E fighter jets to the Chinese air force, Russia’s Kommersant business daily said on Tuesday.

“The sides have practically agreed on the delivery of 48 Su-35 multirole fighters, worth $4 billion, to China,” Kommersant said citing a source in the Russian defense industry.

According to the paper, the only obstacle remaining is Moscow’s demand that Beijing should guarantee the protection of copyrights on the production of Su-35s without proper licensing

http://en.rian.ru/world/20120306/171780246.html

Kiinalaiset sanoivat ettei heillä ole aikomuksia ostaa SU-35 koneita.

Kiinalaisten kiinnostus Su-35S kohtaan on useiden tahojen toimesta varmistettu. Se, mitä olen nähnyt kiinalaisten sanovan oli, että: "Media reports that China and Russia reached agreement on the purchase by China 48 Su-35 are without factual basis," - said in a written reply to China's Ministry of Defence.

Tuossahan ei suinkaan kielletä, etteikö neuvotteluita Flankerin hankkimisesta ole käyty. Aika hauskaa on ollut seurata kiinamielisten defenssireaktioita, kun nämä uutiset kiinnostuksesta venäläistä konetta kohtaan tuli julki. Ilmeisesti fanipiireissä on syntynyt sellainen kuvitelma, että Kiina on J-11B ja J-10 myötä saavuttanut Venäjän tason, eikä sieltä ole enää mitään opittavaa, totuus taitaa olla kuitenkin toinen.
 
Mitkä tahot ovat tuon kiinnostuksen varmistaneet? Kiinalaiset itse kuitenkin sanovat etteivät ole aikeissa ostaa SU-35 hävittäjiä. SU-35 ei ole kuitenkaan myydyt odotetulla tavalla (Venäjällä alle 20kpl) ja huhujen levittäminen mahdollisesta ostajasta saattaa olla hyödyllistä.
 
Kiinassa on menossa iso sotaharjoitus yli 3000m vedenpinnasta.

China 'warns' India with border drill

NEW DELHI\BEIJING: China is back to flexing its muscles close to the Indian border. The People's Liberation Army has conducted a major "live fire" exercise, testing its multi-role J-10 fighters armed with laser-guided and other bombs, in the high-altitude Qinghai-Tibet Plateau.

Chinese official media on Thursday described the exercise as "the first operation of its kind" on the 3,500-metre high plateau, which saw the fighter jets being fuelled and loaded with bombs for ground attack missions during sub-zero temperatures.

The rare publicity given to the exercise comes at a time when China is getting ready for a change of guard, including the election of a new president and secretary general of the Communist Party.

It's also meant as a strong signal to India, which has belatedly taken to strategically counter China's massive build-up of military infrastructure all along the 4,057-km Line of Actual Control over the last two decades.

This is, of course, not the first time PLA has undertaken combat exercises in the Tibet Autonomous Region (TAR), having tested its Sukhoi-27UBK and Sukhoi-30MKK fighters as well as rapid reaction forces and airborne corps there over the last two-three years.

But China-watchers in the Indian defence establishment say the latest exercise, with fighters conducting both day and night sorties, seems to be "several rungs higher" than the ones conducted in the past. It comes barely five months after another major PLA exercise, involving air force, tanks and artillery, was held in the region.

"China usually deploys fighters in TAR only during summers from March onwards because of the thin air and tough operating conditions there. But last year for the first time, PLA kept the J-10 jets deployed at Gongar (Lhasa) throughout the winter," said a senior officer.

China, apart from nuclear missile bases in Qinghai province that unmistakably target India, has built five fully operational airbases at Gongar, Pangta, Linchi, Hoping and Gar Gunsa, an extensive rail network and over 58,000-km of roads in TAR.

This makes it possible for PLA to move around 30 divisions (each with over 15,000 soldiers) to the LAC within 30 days to outnumber Indian forces by at least three-is-to-one. The Chengdu military region and the PLA airbases in TAR are mainly tasked for an anti-India role, as earlier reported by TOI.

India, in turn, has based its most potent fighters Sukhoi-30MKIs, which can go deep into China, at Tezpur and Chabua in Assam, apart from planning to deploy six C-130J "Super Hercules" strategic airlift aircraft in the eastern sector.

"We have a slight advantage over China in the sense that its TAR airbases are located at an average height of 10,000 to 12,000-feet. This restricts the weapon loads their Sukhois and J-10s can carry. PLA Air Force, of course, is almost triple our size" said an IAF officer.

India is also now upgrading eastern sector ALGs (advanced landing grounds) like Pasighat, Mechuka, Walong, Tuting, Ziro and Vijaynagar as well as several helipads in Arunachal Pradesh. This comes after the reactivation of western sector ALGs like Daulat Beg Oldi, Fukche and Nyama in eastern Ladakh.

Moreover, Army is now planning a mountain strike corps (70,000 soldiers) after raising two new mountain infantry divisions, with 1,260 officers and 35,011 soldiers, in Assam and Nagaland. There are also plans to base Akash and BrahMos missile regiments in the North-East for conventional deterrence against China.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/china-warns-india-with-border-drill/articleshow/12376786.cms
 
Drone completes military mapping mission in NW China
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2012/04/drone-completes-military-mapping.html
 
Chinese Company Poly Technologies showcased several new ship designs for export at DSA 2012
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=447
 
China is discussing the possibility of seizure of Russia.

On our portal club.mil.news.sina.com.cn Chinese military published an article by the author titled as - "Russia returns to China and Siberia, the Far East, which contributes to the Sino-Russian friendship and peace throughout the world". It should be stated that these were characteristic of stuffing for the Chinese Internet, and through them, the Chinese authorities are not particularly open shape public opinion of the Chinese on this issue.


The Chinese claim

The author refers to the allegedly told Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's words, that "any Russian president should do everything to return to China of its Far Eastern territories." The author immediately negotiated, they say, this news may be true or false, but if true, then Putin, in my opinion, really makes a charitable cause.

The author argues that to the east of the Ural Mountains in Siberia and the Far East since ancient times belonged to China. Lived in these territories, "the ancient Chinese northern nomadic ethnic minority." During his visit to the USSR (probably refers to the visit in 1949), Mao Zedong, followed by train to Moscow, has refused to get off at the station located near the North Sea (lake). Accompanied the "Great Helmsman" Chen Boda advisor questioned why the leader has been on the train. Mao, Chen Boda chastised for not knowing the history and "heavy angry tone," said that "grazed their flocks here Chinese Xicheng Shepherd Su Wu." Mao made it clear that this land is the birthplace of ancient Chinese people, illegally occupied by the Soviet Union.

The author also claims that during the Tang, Yuan and Qing China, allegedly, had administrative controls in the "cold of Siberia." But then Russia across the Ural Mountains began to leak to the east into Siberia and then to the Pacific coast. Came under Russian jurisdiction, even more than half of Lake Khanka, the author complains. Chinese Heilongjiang was renamed in Nikolaevsk, Russia and Japan recovered from the rich forests and natural gas to the island of Oshima, renamed Sakhalin.

In support of the rubbish in the school textbooks give the official information, allegedly with the intention that the new generation of Chinese people do not forget that "their" story.

People's comments of the parties

In comments to this article, some Chinese writing that "the return of lost territories is our goal," and that, well, you need to pay Russia $ 1 trillion for the redemption of the land - all the same U.S. Treasury will soon turn into a blank piece of paper.

Russian commentators, first of all, ask: "Why would it? Go to war! "Or:" It's amazing how the Russian people can not believe until the last is the evil under the nose and look far away, thinking that there is a danger ... ". "China - the enemy of Russia, with which Russia will have to fight for Siberia and Far East." "Part of the territory of Russia has given China. Without any explanation, "dear Russians". And if there is a precedent, then why China does not expect further "mutual cooperation"? ". "Yes, these are extremely dangerous precedent." "So let the Japanese islands, the Chinese - Siberia, the Germans - the Kaliningrad region, the Finns - Karelia. Themselves - sopemsya, Khan. Recently read a hypothesis, where the Chinese have gone to Russia, the U.S. saved us. Total in Siberia - the United States. "

A little about the Chinese

Under these circumstances, it is important to clearly define what it means for the Chinese this problem. In his essay "The Chinese and their civilization" (St. Petersburg, 1896) IY Korostovets emphasizes haughty confidence of the Chinese in their own superiority over foreigners, their pride, rather, arrogance and contempt for all non-Chinese. For the Chinese entertainment and hobbies such aliens as horseback riding, hunting, playing tennis - a manifestation of barbarism. The Chinese people venerates the past. The Chinese are slowly, with pauses and repetitions. The Chinese prefer to use threats and swear words, but not physical abuse. Their peacefulness at times be mistaken for cowardice. The Chinese are persistent in achieving their goals and skillfully evade obstacles, if they can not overcome them. The capacity for passive resistance and flexibility make the remarkable Chinese opponent. Confess to being wrong for the Chinese to lose "face".

Korostovets also writes that in his conversation with the Chinese who owns an art to avoid answering, keep silent or to turn the question can not be sure that what he says is his last word, and we should expect any surprises.

The book "The Chinese: traditional values ​​in the modern world" (Moscow, 1994), KM Tertitskaya draws attention to the fact that it is the moral norms of kinship groups were the basis for the dominant society and the state of Confucian ethical model. The family was not only a major social group, but the prototype of all other social organizations. Family ties are the basis for constructing the entire set of relations in society. Within these relationships, the principle of mutual support and mutual obligations. Hence the orientation of the Chinese people into groups and clans. Each individual must be content with their place and well fulfill their social role, established ethical standards to maintain harmony within the clan.

Among the numerous books and articles devoted to the peculiarities of national psychology of the Chinese, there are studies, published in the XX century. Which the authors, of Chinese descent, with the critically consider the issue. This primarily refers to the treatise Tszunu Lee "science of shamelessness and guile," to the above-mentioned book, Lin Yuytana "My country and my people" and to the work caused a stir Bo Yan (real name Goh Idun) "Ugly Chinese" (" The Ugly Chinese »), published first in English then in Chinese in 1985

On the nature of the "problem"

In fact, there is no problem. Just want the Chinese people became Russian territory, and Russian history, one of whose goals is to form a correct and stable foundations of the state, unable to cope with the task entrusted to it. And the matter is that, first of all, the position of the church, which in every way does not give formal science and through the Russian government to cross the notorious 1,000-year-old line of fictional Russian state.

It is even more disastrous for Russia at a time when, perhaps, the most backward of the current large volume of peoples - the Chinese - did not hesitate to restore his story. And, as their history the Chinese borrow all that is bad. In exactly the same way as they do with all the inventions and discoveries - and brazenly stealing the stone mines.

Here and in the discussion paper from the Internet the Chinese have done a lot of stupid things - of course, specifically. Let us explain. Modern Chinese - is the gathering of different peoples (numbering 100), which in ancient times lived south of the Great Wall of China. From ancient maps clearly shows that this area was called "Sin", and China on the same card was located north of the Wall. Its population was Caucasoid. They were natives of ancient Russia, who tried in every way to resist the onslaught of Mongoloid-synovitis. But Cena defeated and at the northern territories, and took his name of "Chinese".

Here, in particular, that puts it AA Tyunyaev in his monograph "Russian China (export of Civilization)" (2012): "Upon entering from the west to the territory of South-East Asia (the western point of the Xinjiang Uygur region of modern China), extended the Takla Makan. On the eastern edge of the next section begins the Wall - Great Wall (length - 6620 km). She defended the "Chinese" section of the Northern trade route from the raids of Shinichi (contemporary Chinese).

In ancient times, the dislocation of peoples and nations was different: China and the Chinese - these were the first Caucasians, which then tyurkoizirovalis Mongoloid element - they are located to the north of the "Chinese" walls. Shinichi, Semites - Mongoloid - located south of the "Chinese" walls. Against the latter and the wall was built, which was given an appropriate name - Sinai wall (the inscription found on the maps). "Chinese Wall" - later the distortion resulting from an incorrect translation. "

All this was well known. Take, for travel Nikitin. In his work "Hozhenii the three seas" (1470-ies.) Are two names: "Chin" - to the south of China, "China" - to the north, "... from Pevgu to let Cheney go to Machin mѣsyats, all the sea hozhenie. And from Cheney to go to China six mѣsyats dry, and the sea four days to go ... And yes Machinskaya Chin is a haven Velma great, but it dѣlayut fix it, but sell the same to fix it vѣs, and cheap. Yes ... Machim Chim from the hips 4 mѣsyatsy sea to go, and there dѣlayut Chimi, yes ... everything is cheap. "

Back in the 13th century, the territories that are now occupied northern China, Marco Polo marked word «Catai», while the southern Mongoloid populations - he calls «Manji» (Man). The same thing we see on a French map of 1680. Good visible Wall (Mur de la Chine). She shares, China (Katay) and Chin (Partie de la Chine). And a century earlier drawn by Ortelius map also shows that China (Cataio) is located north of the border with Chinoy (China), which, naturally, to the south. The same disposition, we see yet another map - Map of the World Ortelius, published in 1570: China (Cathaio) to the north, and Chin (China) - to the south.

Even on a single card, "the Asian part of the" made in 1593, China (Cathaya) and Chin (China) are separated geographically, and are separated by a wall of China, about which it is written, "Gallic Wall 400 miles, set in front of Tartary Chin attacks, high." Obi is on its own, the third China - Kitahisko. On the map, "Tartarskaya Empire," produced in 1621, China (Cataio) and Chin (China) is also separated into different areas. So much so that China was higher than in Tibet.

But, again, today the Chinese - it's not the descendants of the ancient Chinese, and the descendants of Mongoloid Southeast Asia, that is, synovitis, or rank, or Man. A modern Chinese «Manji» written with two characters, and literally means "southern barbarians, savages, wild, brazen," which, in general, corresponds to the above work on the nature of the Chinese.

***

A conclusion from all this we have to do such. First, the Russian government is weak, if seen by the Chinese, allows these ancient barbarians to think seriously about the aggression against Russia. And only on the grounds that China has a high, wild offspring. Of course, this is not a legal excuse to start a war of conquest. But if in the hands of every Man will at least stick it Shinichi will represent a serious threat.

And in this connection, it should say the second - this is an extremely anti-state position of the modern historical science. If in the past century, and Russian historians still somehow involved in the real history of Russia, today's historians steeped in "trials" of Christianity and Judaism, and in relation to the real history of the state, which pays for these historians, a comfortable life, and gives all sorts of titles and honors, historians behave like a pig.

Today, while the war with China is in the pages of newspapers, magazines and the Internet, and it is by means of historical fact, that historians have come to the defense of the Russian state is still an ideological invasion of the south-eastern barbarians. A gun, as you know, the last argument of kings ...

Ivan Orlov

http://my.mail.ru/community/slavyane_primori/6E3ECAC4D9936E13.html
 
Katso tätä raporttia mitä US Department of defence on tehnyt

http://www.dod.mil/pubs/foi/International_security_affairs/china/09-F-0759theGreatSiberianWarOf2030.pdf

"Se on mahdollinen sota The great Siperian war"
 
Ensimmäinen 056-luokan korvetti laskettiin vesille viime yönä.
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Launch of the head of Type 056 Chinese Corvette class
Type 056 Corvette Export Specifications:

Length: 89 meters
Full load displacement: 1,300 tonnes
Max speed: 25 knots
Crew: 60
Range: 2,000 nm at 18 knots
Endurance: N/A

Weapons:
2x SSM Launchers
1x8-Cell SAM
1x 76mm gun
2x 30mm gun
http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=459
 
Kiinalaisten poliisimessuilta löytyy mielenkiintoista rautaa.
http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2012/05/community-policing-through-superior.html
 
Kiinalaiset ovat ottaneet parannellun Tyyppi-95 rynnäkkökiväärin käyttöön. (linkissä kuvia yms)
http://china-defense.blogspot.fi/2012/07/type95qbz95-1-58x42mm-assault-rifle.html
 
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