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Ilmeisesti se Thomas Crooks, joka lahjotti demokraateille, on eri Thomas Crooks, kuin ampuja:

Edit. Hmm tai sittenkin postinumero osoittaa asuinalueeksi tuon 20-vuotiaan. Toisaalta jännä jos lahjoitus on menny perille, koska kahdenkin kuvakaappauksen mukaan ActBluen säännöissä on, että alle 18-vuotiailta eivät ota rahaa. Ja 20- vuotias oli 16-17v tuolloin.

Edit2. Toki säännöt voi olla olleet erilaiset kolme vuotta sitten
 
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Tässä jonkinlaista alustavaa taustaa ampujasta

Here’s What Is Known About the Suspect Who Tried to Assassinate Trump​

Authorities identified the gunman as a 20-year-old man from Bethel Park, Pa., a town about an hour’s drive from the site of the shooting.

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Law enforcement officers gather near bleachers strewn with left-behind belongings and a tangle of chairs.

Law enforcement officers looked over the scene of a shooting at a rally for former President Donald Trump.Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
By Campbell Robertson, Jack Healy, Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs and Glenn Thrush
  • July 14, 2024Updated 2:54 p.m. ET

The 20-year-old gunman who attempted to assassinate former President Donald J. Trump at a rally in Pennsylvania lived in a relatively affluent suburb in the hills south of Pittsburgh, about an hour’s drive from the site of the rally.
The neighborhood in Bethel Park where the shooter, identified by the F.B.I. as Thomas Matthew Crooks, grew up is “pretty firmly middle class, maybe upper-middle class,” Dan Grzybek, who represents the area on the county council, said in an interview on Sunday.
Mr. Grzybek briefly met the gunman’s parents last year when he was canvassing for his run. He did not recall the exact conversation, but he remembered they seemed pleasant and were open to hear his platform.
The gunman was a registered Republican, his mother was a Democrat and his father a Libertarian, a fairly typical mix for the area, Mr. Grzybek said.

“You’ve got a large spattering of different backgrounds and ideals, and definitely have a lot of mixed households in Bethel Park,” he said.
Mr. Crooks had been working as a dietary aide at Bethel Park Skilled Nursing and Rehabilitation Center. Marcie Grimm, the facility’s administrator, said the organization was shocked to learn of his involvement in the shooting, saying that he had “performed his job without concern and his background check was clean.” She declined to discuss further specifics of his employment, saying that center officials were cooperating with law enforcement investigators.
Two former classmates who attended Bethel Park High School with the gunman said they had not noticed any obvious warning signs.
One of the classmates, Zach Bradford, said he had taken American history and government classes with him, that he appeared to be “incredibly intelligent” and that his views in high school seemed “slightly right leaning.” Mr. Bradford said he remembered a couple of instances in which classmates gave Mr. Crooks a hard time, but he was shocked when he heard that Mr. Crooks had been identified as the shooter.
“I honestly would’ve never expected this,” he said.
The gunman appears to have graduated in 2022, according to a video recording of that year's graduation ceremony. School officials did not immediately respond to messages on Sunday, and one teacher said the staff had been instructed not to talk to the news media.

The gunman was killed by Secret Service agents on Saturday after he fired from “an elevated position” outside the outdoor rally venue where Mr. Trump was speaking, according to the Secret Service. An AR-15-type semiautomatic rifle found next to Mr. Crooks’s body was purchased by a family member, possibly his father, according to an official briefed on the investigation.
Law enforcement officials found materials for two explosive devices in Mr. Crooks’s car and believe they may have found a third at his residence, according to a person with knowledge of the investigation.
Former F.B.I. officials said the bureau’s behavioral analysis unit would try to build out a profile of the gunman to understand his motivations and why he decided to carry out the attempted assassination. The F.B.I., which is running the investigation, will cast a wide net, interviewing friends and family members and scouring the internet for clues he might have left online or in a journal.
“This remains an active and ongoing investigation,” the F.B.I. said in a statement early Sunday.
The gunman did not have a criminal history reflected in Pennsylvania’s public court records, and officials said they had not identified a motive. A voter-registration record showed Mr. Crooks’s Republican registration, though federal campaign-finance records show he donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project, a liberal voter turnout group, through the Democratic donation platform ActBlue in January 2021.
Law enforcement officers closed down all roads leading toward the home of the suspect’s family in Bethel Park. Numerous relatives did not respond to messages seeking comment.

Mr. Grzybek, who lives about a half-mile down the same street as the gunman’s family, said the area was in shock.
“Most people just can’t believe that this has happened in our neighborhood,” he said. “I typically walk my dogs every morning, and the number of people that I’ve seen walking through our street, just driving down and just stopping to take video and pictures, I think is pretty remarkable.”
Reporting was contributed by Mike Baker, Adam Goldman, Katie Benner, Brian Conway and Matthew Ericson. Jack Begg contributed research.
 
Ilmeisesti se Thomas Crooks, joka lahjotti demokraateille, on eri Thomas Crooks, kuin ampuja:
Tosin ketjussa on kuvia, joissa lahjoittajan kotiosoite Milford Park.... joka olisi sen 2003 syntyneen...

Sitten siitä republikaaniksi rekisteröitymisestä väitetään, että
"He was not old enough to vote in 2022 , according to this document , he was born in 2003. The document is fake."
"21 in PA. Besides , the zip code is wrong."

Eli ei näistä taida vielä pariin päivään saada selvyyttä.
 
Tosin ketjussa on kuvia, joissa lahjoittajan kotiosoite Milford Park.... joka olisi sen 2003 syntyneen...

Sitten siitä republikaaniksi rekisteröitymisestä väitetään, että
"He was not old enough to vote in 2022 , according to this document , he was born in 2003. The document is fake."
"21 in PA. Besides , the zip code is wrong."

Eli ei näistä taida vielä pariin päivään saada selvyyttä.
Ennen oli paremmin. Uutiset tuli päivän myöhässä mutta asiat oli tarkistettu ja totuus lähes lopullisessa muodossa.
Nelosketjun politikon ehtivät saamaan päänsä selviksi ennenkuin alkoivat antamaan lausuntoja tai niiltä ei edes kysytty.
 
Eli kiire tullut ampujalle.

WP: Epäilty uhkasi ampua poliisin​

Poliisivirkailija näki ampujan kampanjatilaisuuden lähellä olevalla katolla juuri ennen kuin tämä avasi tulen kohti Trumpia, The Washington Post uutisoi.
Butlerin piirikunnan sheriffi Michael T. Slupe kommentoi asiaa lehdelle.
Slupen mukaan poliisi havaitsi ampujan katolla. Poliisivirkailija kiipesi katolle, jolloin ampuja osoitti häntä aseella. Koska poliisi piteli käsillään kiinni räystäästä, hänellä ei ollut asetta kädessään, jolloin hän pudottautui takaisin maahan.
– Hän irrotti otteensa, koska ei halunnut kuolla, Slupe totesi.
Sitten epäilty avasi tulen kohti Trumpia ja kampanjayleisöä.
 
Linkissä pohdintaa salaisen palvelun sekä ampujan käyttämästä kalustosta. Tietävämmät osannevat kommentoida tarkemmin.

Tiedossa on se, että salainen palvelu vastaa virkaatekevien sekä ylipäätään presidenttien turvallisuudesta. Johtaen tarvittaessa paikallispoliisin ja muun viranomaisyhteistyön kuviota kohteen suojaamisessa. Kuvissa yllä näkyy tunnuksen "police" tarkenteena tämän alla "secret service".

Tässä tulee päitä putoilemaan.

"The building where the gunman fired shots from on Saturday was outside of the designated perimeter of the Trump rally, so it was secured by local law enforcement, not Secret Service agents, said the agency's spokesman, Anthony Gugliemi. There were four counter sniper teams covering the rally, two from the Secret Service and two from local police agencies, he said."
Lainaus NYT:in seurannasta, en linkkiä laita koska maksumuuri

Edit; jälkimmäinen kappale lisätty
 
Michael D. ShearMaggie Astor
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July 14, 2024, 3:26 p.m. ET2 minutes ago
2 minutes ago
Michael D. Shear and Maggie Astor

Here’s the latest.

Senior F.B.I. officials said on Sunday that agents were investigating the shooting at a rally for former President Donald J. Trump as a possible domestic terrorism attack and assassination. They said the gunman’s phone, rifle and a possible “rudimentary” explosive device had been sent to the bureau’s lab in Quantico, Va.

Officials said that they had no reason to believe that the gunman was part of a larger plot involving other people, and that its top priority was determining the man’s motive.
 
Tässä lukuisia USA-lähteitä seuratessa. Mitään viitteitä siihen, että kyseessä olisi muuta kuin "lone gunmen" -tyyppinen tapahtuma. Ei ole esiin nostettu. Tutkinta toki alussa.

Oma toiveeni olisi myös, ettei ampujalla olisi kytköksiä jotka kipinää saattaisivat sisäpolitiikan ruutitynnyriin antaa.
 
Tässä jonkinlaista näkymää, tosin hyvin suppeassa muodossa. USA:n sisäisessä rakenteessa olevaan tulehdukseen.
NEWS ANALYSIS

An Assassination Attempt That Seems Likely to Tear America Further Apart​

The attack on former President Donald J. Trump comes at a time when the United States is already polarized along ideological and cultural lines and is split, it often seems, into two realities.

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Empty stands at the site of the Trump rally.

The scene of former President Donald J. Trump’s campaign rally in Butler, Pa., after the shooting on Saturday.Credit...Eric Lee/The New York Times
Peter Baker
By Peter Baker
Peter Baker has covered the past five presidents.
  • July 14, 2024Updated 4:27 p.m. ET

When President Ronald Reagan was shot by an attention-seeking drifter in 1981, the country united behind its injured leader. The teary-eyed Democratic speaker of the House, Thomas P. O’Neill Jr., went to the hospital room of the Republican president, held his hands, kissed his head and got on his knees to pray for him.
But the assassination attempt against former President Donald J. Trump seems more likely to tear America further apart than to bring it together. Within minutes of the shooting, the air was filled with anger, bitterness, suspicion and recrimination. Fingers were pointed, conspiracy theories advanced and a country already bristling with animosity fractured even more.
The fact that the shooting in Butler, Pa., on Saturday night was two days before Republicans were set to gather in Milwaukee for their nominating convention invariably put the event in a partisan context. While Democrats bemoaned political violence, which they have long faulted Mr. Trump for encouraging, Republicans instantly blamed President Biden and his allies for the attack, which they argued stemmed from incendiary language labeling the former president a proto-fascist who would destroy democracy.
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Setting up for the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. The shooting in Pennsylvania occurred two days before Republicans were set to gather for their nominating contest.Credit...Kenny Holston/The New York Times
Mr. Trump’s eldest son, his campaign strategist and a running mate finalist all attacked the political left within hours of the shooting even before the gunman was identified or his motive determined. “Well of course they tried to keep him off the ballot, they tried to put him in jail and now you see this,” wrote Chris LaCivita, a senior adviser to the former president.

But the Trump campaign seemed to think better of it, and the post was deleted. A memo sent out on Sunday by Mr. LaCivita and Susie Wiles, another senior adviser, instructed Trump team members not to comment on the shooting.
Either way, the episode could fuel Mr. Trump’s narrative about being the victim of persecution by Democrats. Impeached, indicted, sued and convicted, Mr. Trump even before Saturday had accused Democrats of seeking to have him shot by F.B.I. agents or even executed for crimes that do not carry the death penalty.
After being wounded at the rally, Mr. Trump, with blood staining his face, pumped his fist at the crowd and shouted, “Fight! Fight! Fight!”
What exactly drove the gunman, who was quickly killed by Secret Service counter snipers, remained a matter of speculation. Identified as Thomas Matthew Crooks, 20, from Bethel Park, Pa., he was a registered Republican but had also given $15 to a progressive group on Mr. Biden’s Inauguration Day, more than three years ago. The authorities said they were still investigating his motive.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/nyregion/beekman-hotel-concierge.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/arts/music/cypress-hill-simpsons-london-joke.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/science/mammoth-dna-genetics.html

The shooting came at a time when the United States was already deeply polarized along ideological, cultural and partisan lines — split, it often seems, into two countries, even two realities. More than at any time in generations, Americans do not see themselves in a collective enterprise but perceive themselves on opposite sides of modern ramparts.
The divisions have grown so stark that a Marist poll in May found that 47 percent of Americans considered a second civil war likely or very likely in their lifetime, a notion that prompted Hollywood to release a movie imagining what that could look like.
The propulsive crescendo of disruptive events lately has led many to compare 2024 to 1968, a year of racial strife, riots in the cities and the assassinations of the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy. Protests over the Vietnam War helped prompt President Lyndon B. Johnson to drop out of his race for re-election that year.
Until now, there had been one important difference. “Of all the similarities between 1968 and 2024, the lack of political violence this year has been one of the key areas where the years diverge,” said Luke A. Nichter, a historian at Chapman University and the author of “The Year That Broke Politics,” a history of 1968. “That is no more.”
Michael Kazin, a historian at Georgetown University, said political violence had a long history in America. “As in 1968 — or 1919 or 1886 or 1861 — the violence that just occurred is rather inevitable in a society as bitterly divided as ours,” he said. “And of course there’s actually less violence in politics now than there was in those other years.”

Yet not since President Abraham Lincoln was shot by a Confederate sympathizer at Ford’s Theater has an assassination attempt against a president or major presidential candidate so sharply exacerbated the partisan divide.
Presidents James A. Garfield, William McKinley and John F. Kennedy were shot to death by lone gunmen who were upset with them for one reason or another, but the killings did not become sources of schism between the Republican and Democratic Parties. The same was true with Dr. King and Robert Kennedy’s assassinations, as well as shootings that missed President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt and President Gerald R. Ford.
Gov. George C. Wallace, Democrat of Alabama, was shot at a campaign event during his 1972 presidential run by a man who wanted to be famous. The attack left the segregationist governor paralyzed but eventually contributed to his evolution and disavowal of past racism. John Hinckley attacked Mr. Reagan out of an obsession to impress the movie star Jodie Foster.
In recent years, political violence in America at levels below the presidency has become increasingly partisan. Representative Gabrielle Giffords, Democrat of Arizona, was critically wounded in a mass shooting in 2011, prompting angry criticism of Republicans for fomenting hate. Representative Steve Scalise of Louisiana, now the Republican majority leader, was shot and injured during a congressional baseball game practice in 2017 by a supporter of Senator Bernie Sanders, Independent of Vermont.
An armed man was arrested outside the home of Justice Brett Kavanaugh in 2022 and told the authorities that he wanted to kill the conservative Supreme Court justice because of his positions against abortion and gun control. Later that year, a man wielding a hammer broke into the San Francisco house of Representative Nancy Pelosi, then the Democratic speaker, and beat her husband, Paul Pelosi.

The most famous recent case of political violence before this weekend was the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, by supporters of Mr. Trump trying to block the certification of Mr. Biden’s election victory. The Capitol Police investigated 8,008 cases of threats involving members of Congress last year. While most of them were not serious, it was the second-highest total in the department’s history and has prompted the hiring of more prosecutors.
Many of these recent cases have led to not so much soul-searching as blame-setting. After Ms. Giffords was shot, Democrats assailed Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice-presidential candidate, because Ms. Giffords’s district had been among 20 singled out underneath digitized cross hairs on a map circulated by Ms. Palin’s political action committee, although there was no evidence the gunman knew about or was driven by the map.
House Democrats impeached Mr. Trump for instigating the Capitol attack with his inflammatory language at a rally beforehand. The former president has a long history of encouraging violence. He urged supporters to beat up protesters at rallies, cheered a Republican congressman for body-slamming a reporter, called for looters and shoplifters to be shot, made light of the attack on Mr. Pelosi and promised pardons to Jan. 6 rioters. When some of his supporters chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” on Jan. 6, Mr. Trump told aides that maybe the vice president deserved it because he had defied efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
Republicans turned the tables on Democrats this weekend, arguing that if Mr. Trump was responsible for provocative rhetoric, then Mr. Biden should be as well. Speaking with donors on Monday, the president said he wanted to stop talking about his poor debate performance and instead “put Trump in a bull’s-eye.” He described his strategy as “attack, attack, attack.”
“The central premise of the Biden campaign is that President Donald Trump is an authoritarian fascist who must be stopped at all costs,” Senator J.D. Vance, Republican of Ohio and a front-runner to be named Mr. Trump’s running mate, wrote on social media two hours after the attack on Saturday. “That rhetoric directly led to President Trump’s attempted assassination.”

Mr. Scalise, also the victim of a political attack, agreed. “For weeks, Democrat leaders have been fueling ludicrous hysteria that Donald Trump winning re-election would be the end of democracy in America,” he said. “Clearly, we’ve seen far-left lunatics act on violent rhetoric in the past. This incendiary rhetoric must stop.”
Representative Mike Collins, Republican of Georgia, wrote on social media that “Joe Biden sent the orders” and urged the local prosecutor to “immediately file charges against Joseph R. Biden for inciting an assassination.” But not all hands are clean. Mr. Collins once ran a campaign ad in which he fired a rifle at Ms. Pelosi’s agenda and shot a cardboard cutout of so-called RINO Republicans.
Some Republican leaders took a more measured approach. Speaker Mike Johnson, speaking on “Today” on NBC, said on Sunday that Mr. Trump had “been so vilified and really persecuted by media, Hollywood elites, political figures, even the legal system” and cited Mr. Biden’s “bull’s-eye” comment.
“I know he didn’t mean what is being implied there, but that kind of language on either side should be called out,” Mr. Johnson said. But he emphasized that “both sides” have “got to turn the temperature down in this country.”
Mr. Biden did not directly respond to criticism of his language during two televised appearances since the shooting, but he flatly condemned the attack and called Mr. Trump to express relief that he was not more seriously hurt.
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President Biden delivered brief remarks from the White House on Sunday about the attempted assassination of Mr. Trump.Credit...Yuri Gripas for The New York Times
The danger is if political violence becomes normalized, just another form of the endless partisan wars. A study published in May found that 11 percent of Americans said violence was sometimes or always justified to return Mr. Trump to the presidency, and 21 percent said it was justified to advance an important political objective.
But Garen J. Wintemute, the director of the Violence Prevention Program at the University of California, Davis, and the lead author of the study, said it was important to remember that most Americans still rejected political violence.
“It’s the job of that majority to make their views known, over and over again, and as publicly as possible,” Dr. Wintemute said. “A climate of intolerance for violence reduces the chance that violence will occur. The question before us as a nation is, ‘Will violence become part of American politics?’ Each of us as an individual needs to answer that question, ‘Not if I can help it.’”
Peter Baker is the chief White House correspondent for The Times. He has covered the last five presidents and sometimes writes analytical pieces that place presidents and their administrations in a larger context and historical framework. More about Peter Baker

Paitsi, että tämäntyyppisten kokonaisuuksien hahmottaminen kohtuu herkkää saattaa olla omille biasoitumisen suunnille analyysiin pyrittäessä. Haasteena taitaa myös olla kompleksinen kokonaisuus, jossa osiensa kautta tarkasteltava "eliö", ei niinkään ole takaisinmallinnettavissa kohti selkeitä syy-sauraussuhteita. Systeemirikko, jossa vieraseliö saattaa ehkäisevistä elementeistä huolimatta. Puolustuksen puhkaista.

Tämän saman haasteen kanssa, Eurooppa nyt painii, eri muodoissaan.
 

No ei: olisihan se ollut hyvä jos olisi selvinnyt hengissä niin olisi voinut oikeudenkäynnissä selitellä harhaisia motiivejaan ja sitten lojua loppuelämä neljän seinän sisällä varoituksena tuleville yrittäjille. Mutta siinä vaiheessa kun kömysi katolle kiväärin kanssa, niin selviämismahdollisuudet meni nollan pintaan, ja ainoa avoin kysymys oli että ehtisikö jonkun ampua ensiksi ja jos niin kenet.

ABC News: Epäillyn pääsy koulun kivääriklubille evättiin, koska hän oli niin huono ampuja, sanovat luokkatoverit

Donald Trumpin salamurhayrityksestä epäillyn Thomas Crooksin pääsy koulun kivääriklubille evättiin, koska hän oli niin huono ampuja eikä kyennyt osumaan annettuihin kohteisiin , kertoo kaksi entistä luokkatoveria ABC Newsille.

Toinen luokkatovereista sanoo, että kyse ei ollut ainostaan siitä, että Crooksia ei olisi otettu joukkueeseen, vaan häntä pyydettiin olemaan tulematta takaisin. Luokkatoverin mukaan Crooksin ampuminnen oli niin kehnoa, että sen katsottiin olevan jopa vaarallista.

Joukkueen valmentaja on kieltäytynyt kommentoimasta asiaa ABC Newsille.


Ei ollut ex-mariini ampumassa...
 
Yksinäinen susi ja yksinäinen unesta herätetty agentti ei eroa toisistaan mitenkään. Lisäksi eräs bunkkeripapparainen on erittäin hyvissä väleissä läntisen äärioikeiston kanssa. Samainen papprainen myös pelkää kuollakseen tappajia ja tunnetusti kylvää kuolemanpelkoa länteen erilaisilla salamurhahankkeilla. Sripalien myrkytys on sikäli huono esimerkki kun oli tarkoituskin luoda pelkoa vastustajiin, eli tuoda esille ryssän pitkää kättä kostohommissa.

Kun seuraa hyötyjiä niin kyllä ne löytyy Kiina-ryssälä akselilta ihan suoraan. Kuolemanpelko tuo kummasti lisää arvostusta vaikka USA:n pressaan ryssää kohtaan. Ilmentäähän tämä muutenkin tuota itä-naapuria eli joko teet yhteityötä tai kärsit. Oliko tässä muistutus Trumpille jostain. Itse tapahtumana ihan sama ryssälle että kuoliko kohde vai vain haavoittui, puuttuminen vaaleihin on nyt ihan eritasolla kuin ennen. Kumpikin vaihtoehto avaa uusia ovia ryssän politiikalle. Aikaisemmalle umpikujalle mikä tahansa vaihtoehto tuo enemmän toivoa.

KGB:n jälkeläiset sisältää myös ihan aidosti osaavaakin joten mikään tutkinta ei tässä tule löytämään mitään viitteitä ryssän vaikutuksesta. Ihan sama oliko se jotain mentaalitukea äärioikeiston kokoontumisissa tai ihan mitä vain niin yksinäinen susi on yksinäinen susi. Vaikka ääritapauksessa herätetty agentti kun taustat on rakennettu juuri niin kuin pitääkin.
 
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