Trump -psykoosi

Tämmöistä tämä tosiTV Tanssii diktaattorien kanssa on... Vladimortin kanssa meni sukset ristiin, Talibanien kanssa pakit, Rakettikimmon kanssa tulee ehkä jotain joskus, ja sitten se mahdollisesti tuleva kausi Iranin pressan kanssa.
 
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Yksi palkituista, Chris Grant, 50, ei päässyt presidentin eteen, koska Salainen palvelu nappasi hänet kiinni Valkoisen talossa. Miehestä oli päällä etsintäkuulutus, minkä vuoksi hänet pidätettiin.

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Trumpin palkitsema joukkoammuskelun sankari oli valehdellut tarinansa

Salainen palvelu nappasi kiinni miehen, joka oli tulossa Valkoiseen taloon palkittavaksi.
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– Emme ole törmänneet tällaiseen aiemmin. Koskaan ei uhrin kertomus ole ollut niin pielessä siitä, mitä oikeasti tapahtui, totesi ylikonstaapeli Robert Gomez KVIA-kanavalle.
 
Ihan hyviä ja tolkullinen näkemys. Ei Biden tai Warren taida mitään tähtiehdokkaita olla. Biden toki taitaa olla ihan tolkun ihminen.

"It is also quite easy to picture Mr Trump doing better against either of them than today’s poll numbers would imply.

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Until then, the Democrats are stuck with a less robust field than they might imagine. Mr Trump clearly senses this. When he is panicked he lashes out. His recent commentary has sounded almost detached."

The weakness of the Democratic field

The battle for the 2020 challenger to President Trump is now between Warren and Biden
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Panssari Salama kirjoitti:
Tervemenoa sotahullu Bolton. Amerikka Yksin -teemaa ajava Trump on vetäytynyt monista kv.sopimuksista, ja aika näyttää saako USA yksin neuvoteltua / painostettua häiriköitä kuten taloushäirikkö Kiinan kuriin, kuin mitä kv. yhteenliittymät hitaamman etenemisen tiellä saisivat.
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Bolton taisi olla kansallisen turvallisuuden neuvonantaja numero kolme.

Saapa nähdä näkeekö numero nelonenkaan Trumpin ekan kauden loppua?

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Yksi palkituista, Chris Grant, 50, ei päässyt presidentin eteen, koska Salainen palvelu nappasi hänet kiinni Valkoisen talossa. Miehestä oli päällä etsintäkuulutus, minkä vuoksi hänet pidätettiin.

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Trumpin palkitsema joukkoammuskelun sankari oli valehdellut tarinansa

Salainen palvelu nappasi kiinni miehen, joka oli tulossa Valkoiseen taloon palkittavaksi.
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– Emme ole törmänneet tällaiseen aiemmin. Koskaan ei uhrin kertomus ole ollut niin pielessä siitä, mitä oikeasti tapahtui, totesi ylikonstaapeli Robert Gomez KVIA-kanavalle.
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Ihan samaa sarjaa Turun terroriteon "sankarin" Hassan Zubierin kanssa...
 
Trump on Iranin ongelman kanssa yksin. Hallinnon ”aikuiset”, kuten James Mattis, John Kelly ja H.R. McMasters ovat poissa, ja heidät on korvattu trumpilaisilla, kokemattomilla joojoo-miehillä. Puolustusministeri on ollut hommissa kuukauden, turvallisuusneuvonantajaa ei ole.

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Kommentti: Trump on polvillaan Iranin edessä

On ilmeistä, että Trump on itse sotkenut itsensä suohon, kirjoittaa Ilta-Sanomien ulkomaanuutisten tuottaja Jari Alenius.
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Coffee Man kirjoitti:
Trump on Iranin ongelman kanssa yksin. Hallinnon ”aikuiset”, kuten James Mattis, John Kelly ja H.R. McMasters ovat poissa, ja heidät on korvattu trumpilaisilla, kokemattomilla joojoo-miehillä. Puolustusministeri on ollut hommissa kuukauden, turvallisuusneuvonantajaa ei ole.

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Kommentti: Trump on polvillaan Iranin edessä

On ilmeistä, että Trump on itse sotkenut itsensä suohon, kirjoittaa Ilta-Sanomien ulkomaanuutisten tuottaja Jari Alenius.
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Yleensä media huutaa kuula punasena kun Jenkit sotii ympäri maapalloa. Nyt kun Trump on ruorissa, niin itketään kun ei ne sodikkaan :D :uzi:
 
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No esim. Mattis lähti jo melkein vuosi sitten ei vieläkään tilalle ole saatu uutta puolustusministeriä vaan virka hoitaa vieläkin varapuolustusministeri. Ihme touhua.

Ja muutenkin vähän ihmettelen Trumpin psyykettä, kun aikuiselle 70-vuotiaalle ei ole mahdollista olla mollaamatta toisia ihmisiä jatkuvasti.
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Tästähän voimme suoraan päätellä, ettei Trumpin mielestä USA:n puolustaminen ole kovin tärkeää.
 
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Yleensä media huutaa kuula punasena kun Jenkit sotii ympäri maapalloa. Nyt kun Trump on ruorissa, niin itketään kun ei ne sodikkaan :D :uzi:
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Se on kyllä ihan varma asia että Trump ei ole ollut sotaa lietsova presidentti :ROFLMAO:

Ja lupauksetkin on tullut pidettyä...

Trumpin ulkopolitiikan keskeisiin lupauksiin kuuluu periaate, että hän ei vie Yhdysvaltoja enää uusiin sotiin.

Edellinen pressa yritti samaa ja palkittiin siitä jo etukäteen, mutta oli nykyiseen verrattuna Tsingis Khan, Hitler ja Stalin samassa paketissa...verenhimoinen roisto koko mies.

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Trump on kyyhkyjen kyyhky, mutta palkintoa on turha odottaa.

Saa sitten nähdä mihin moinen hampaattomuus johtaa, ja missä alkaa ihan kunnolla palamaan...mutta onhan tämä mielenkiintoinen kokeilu ja tuskin USA on se maa joka seurauksista eniten kärsii, jos P-Korea tai Iran ei ihan kahjoksi heittäydy :LOL:

Israel, Saudi-Arabia, Eurooppa ja kumppanit ovat pitkällä tähtäimellä asia erikseen, mutta väliäkö tuolla kun...

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Trumpin keskustelut jonkin valtion johtajan kanssa ja hänen näissä keskusteluissa antamansa lupaus sai USA:n tiedusteluviranomaiset tekemään virallisen ilmiantoraportin. Raportti oli tiedustelun tarkastajan mielestä sen verran uskottava ja huolestuttava että lain mukaan siitä oli kerrottava kongressin tutkimuskomitealle.
The whistleblower complaint that has triggered a tense showdown between the U.S. intelligence community and Congress involves President Trump’s communications with a foreign leader, according to two former U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

Trump’s interaction with the foreign leader included a “promise” that was regarded as so troubling that it prompted an official in the U.S. intelligence community to file a formal whistleblower complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community, said the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

It was not immediately clear which foreign leader Trump was speaking with or what he pledged to deliver, but his direct involvement in the matter has not been previously disclosed. It raises new questions about the president’s handling of sensitive information and may further strain his relationship with U.S. spy agencies. One former official said the communication was a phone call.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment. The Office of the Director of National Intelligence and a lawyer representing the whistleblower declined to comment.

Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson determined that the complaint was credible and troubling enough to be considered a matter of “urgent concern,” a legal threshold that requires notification of congressional oversight committees.

But acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire has refused to share details about Trump’s alleged transgression with lawmakers, touching off a legal and political dispute that has spilled into public and prompted speculation that the spy chief is improperly protecting the president.

The dispute is expected to escalate Thursday when Atkinson is scheduled to appear before the House Intelligence Committee in a classified session closed to the public. The hearing is the latest move by committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) to compel U.S. intelligence officials to disclose the full details of the whistleblower complaint to Congress.

Maguire has agreed to testify before the committee next week, according to a statement by Schiff. He declined to comment for this story.

The inspector general “determined that this complaint is both credible and urgent,” Schiff said in the statement released Wednesday evening. “The committee places the highest importance on the protection of whistleblowers and their complaints to Congress.”

The complaint was filed with Atkinson’s office on Aug. 12, a date on which Trump was at his golf resort in New Jersey. White House records indicate that Trump had had conversations or interactions with at least five foreign leaders in the preceding five weeks.

Among them was a call with Russian President Vladimir Putin that the White House initiated on July 31. Trump also received at least two letters from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un during the summer, describing them as “beautiful” messages. In June, Trump said publicly that he was opposed to certain CIA spying operations against North Korea. Referring to a Wall Street Journal report that the agency had recruited Kim’s half-brother, Trump said, “I would tell him that would not happen under my auspices.”

Trump met with other foreign leaders at the White House in July, including the prime minister of Pakistan, the prime minister of the Netherlands, and the emir of Qatar.

Trump’s handling of classified information has been a source of concern to U.S. intelligence officials since the outset of his presidency. In May 2017, Trump revealed classified information about espionage operations in Syria to senior Russian officials in the Oval Office, disclosures that prompted a scramble among White House officials to contain the potential damage.

Statements and letters exchanged between the offices of the DNI and the House Intelligence Committee in recent days have pointed at the White House without directly implicating the president.

Schiff has said he was told that the complaint concerned “conduct by someone outside of the Intelligence Community.” Jason Klitenic, the DNI general counsel, noted in a letter sent to congressional leaders on Tuesday that the activity at the root of the complaint “involves confidential and potentially privileged communications.”

The dispute has put Maguire, thrust into the DNI job in an acting capacity with the resignation of Daniel Coats last month, at the center of a politically perilous conflict with constitutional implications.

Schiff has demanded full disclosure of the whistleblower complaint. Maguire has defended his refusal by asserting that the subject of the complaint is beyond his jurisdiction.

Defenders of Maguire disputed that he is subverting legal requirements to protect Trump, saying that he is trapped in a legitimate legal predicament and that he has made his displeasure clear to officials at the Justice Department and White House.

After fielding the complaint on Aug. 12, Atkinson submitted it to Maguire two weeks later. By law, Maguire is required to transmit such complaints to Congress within seven days. But in this case, he refrained from doing so after turning for legal guidance to officials at the Justice Department.

In a sign of Atkinson’s discomfort with this situation, the inspector general informed the House and Senate intelligence committees of the existence of the whistleblower complaint — without revealing its substance — in early September.

Schiff responded with almost immediate indignation, firing off a letter demanding a copy of the complaint and warning that he was prepared to subpoena senior U.S. intelligence officials. The DNI has asserted that lawyers determined there was no notification requirement because the whistleblower complaint did not constitute an urgent concern that was “within the responsibility and authority” of Maguire’s office.

Legal experts said there are scenarios in which a president’s communications with a foreign leader could rise to the level of an “urgent concern” for the intelligence community, but they also noted that the president has broad authority to decide unilaterally when to classify or declassify information.

Revealing how the United States obtained sensitive information could “compromise intelligence means and methods and potentially the lives of sources,” said Joel Brenner, former inspector general for the National Security Agency.

It was unclear whether the whistleblower witnessed Trump’s communication with the foreign leader or learned of it through other means. Summaries of such conversations are often distributed among White House staff, although the administration imposed new limits on this practice after Trump’s disclosures to Russian officials were revealed.
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Tiedusteluelimien tekemä ilmiantoraportti Trumpin keskusteluista ja lupauksista ulkomaisen valtionpäämiehen kanssa ilmeisesti koskevat Ukrainaa. Trumpin kerrotaan pyrkineen vaikuttamaan Ukrainan presidenttiin siten että tämä auttaisi Trumpin uudellenvalintakampanjaa. DNI:n virkaatekevä johtaja Joseph Maguire pyrkii estämään tietojen kulun tapahtumista kongressin tiedustelukomitealle.
A whistleblower complaint about President Trump made by an intelligence official centers on Ukraine, according to two people familiar with the matter, which has set off a struggle between Congress and the executive branch.

The complaint involved communications with a foreign leader and a “promise” that Trump made, which was so alarming that a U.S. intelligence official who had worked at the White House went to the inspector general of the intelligence community, two former U.S. officials said

Two and a half weeks before the complaint was filed, Trump spoke with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a comedian and political newcomer who was elected in a landslide in May.

That call is already under investigation by House Democrats who are examining whether Trump and his attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani sought to manipulate the Ukrainian government into helping Trump’s reelection campaign. Lawmakers have demanded a full transcript and a list of participants on the call.

A White House spokesperson declined to comment.

The Democrats’ investigation was launched earlier this month, prior to revelations that a U.S. intelligence official, who previously worked in the White House, had lodged a complaint with the inspector general for the intelligence community. The Washington Post first reported on Wednesday that the complaint had to do with a “promise” that Trump made when communicating with a foreign leader.

On Thursday, the inspector general testified behind closed doors to members of the House Intelligence Committee about the whistleblower’s complaint.

Over the course of three hours, Michael Atkinson repeatedly declined to discuss with members the content of the complaint, saying he was not authorized to do so.

He and the members spent much of their time discussing the process Atkinson followed, the statute governing his investigation of the complaint and the nature of an “urgent concern” that he believed it represented, according to a person familiar with the briefing, who, like others ,spoke on condition of anonymity.

“He was being excruciatingly careful about the language he used,” the person said.

Atkinson made clear that he disagreed with a lawyer for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, who had contradicted the inspector general and found that the whistleblower complaint did not meet the statutory definition of an urgent concern because it involved a matter not under the DNI’s jurisdiction.

Atkinson told lawmakers he disagreed with the lawyer’s analysis—meaning he felt the matter was under the DNI’s purview-- and also that it was urgent “in the common understanding of the word,” the person said.

Following the meeting, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.) warned of possible legal action if intelligence officials did not share the whistleblower complaint.

Schiff called acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire’s refusal to share the complaint with Congress as “unprecedented” and said he understood the Justice Department was involved in that decision.

“We cannot get an answer to the question about whether the White House is also involved in preventing this information from coming to Congress,” Schiff said, adding: “We’re determined to do everything we can to determine what this urgent concern is to make sure that the national security is protected.”

Someone, Schiff said, “is trying to manipulate the system to keep information about an urgent matter from the Congress...There certainly are a lot of indications that it was someone at a higher pay grade than the director of national intelligence.”

Trump has denied doing anything improper. In a tweet Thursday morning, the president wrote, “Virtually anytime I speak on the phone to a foreign leader, I understand that there may be many people listening from various U.S. agencies, not to mention those from the other country itself.”

“Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially ‘heavily populated’ call,” Trump wrote.

In a Sept. 17 letter to intelligence committee leaders, Atkinson wrote that he and Maguire “are at an impasse” over how the whistleblower could contact the congressional committees. Ordinarily, a matter of urgent concern that the inspector general deems credible is supposed to be forwarded to the intelligence oversight panels in the House and Senate.

But Maguire prevented Atkinson from doing so, according to correspondence that has been made public. Atkinson wrote that he had requested permission from Maguire to inform the congressional intelligence committees about the general subject matter of the complaint, but was denied.

Maguire, Atkinson wrote, had consulted with the Justice Department, which determined that the law didn’t require disclosing the complaint to the committee because it didn’t involve a member of the intelligence community or “an intelligence activity under the DNI’s supervision.”

Atkinson faulted the Justice Department’s conclusion “particularly … and the Acting DNI’s apparent agreement with the conclusion, that the disclosure in this case does not concern an intelligence activity within the DNI’s authority.”

Maguire is scheduled to testify before the intelligence committee in a public session next Thursday.

In letters to the White House and State Department, top Democrats earlier this month demanded records related to what they say are Trump and Giuliani’s efforts “to coerce the Ukrainian government into pursuing two politically-motivated investigations under the guise of anti-corruption activity” — one to help Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who is in prison for illegal lobbying and financial fraud, and a second to target the son of former vice president Joe Biden, who is seeking the Democratic nomination to challenge Trump.

“As the 2020 election draws closer, President Trump and his personal attorney appear to have increased pressure on the Ukrainian government and its justice system in service of President Trump’s reelection campaign, and the White House and the State Department may be abetting this scheme,” the chairmen of the House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees wrote, citing media reports that Trump had threatened to withhold $250 million in aid to help Ukraine in its ongoing struggle against Russian-backed separatists.

Lawmakers also became aware in August that the Trump administration may be trying to stop the aid from reaching Ukraine, according to a congressional official.

Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, dismissed the reports of the whistle blower and Trump’s “promise” to a foreign leader.

“I’m not even aware of the fact that he had such a phone call,” Giuliani said Thursday. “If I’m not worried about it, he’s not worried about it.”

House Democrats are looking into whether Giuliani traveled to Ukraine to pressure that government outside of formal diplomatic channels to effectively help the Trump reelection effort by investigating Hunter Biden about his time on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company.

The filing of the whistleblower complaint has led to what veterans of U.S. spy agencies described as an unprecedented situation with potentially grave consequences for the already troubled relationship between the president and the nation’s powerful intelligence community.

It remains unclear how the whistleblower gained access to details of the president’s calls — whether through so-called “readouts” generated by White House aides, or other means.

Memos that serve as transcripts of such calls are created routinely. But if that is the source in this instance, it would appear to mean that White House aides made a formal record of comments by the president later deemed deeply troubling by the intelligence community’s chief watchdog.
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Mitä?

Donald on vaihtamassa Vladimirin Volodymyriin :ROFLMAO:

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Mitä?

Donald on vaihtamassa Vladimirin Volodymyriin :ROFLMAO:

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Huhujen mukaan Trump ja Giuliani olisivat pyrkineet sitomaan Ukrainalle annettavan avun Venäjää vastaan siihen että ukrainalaiset keittelisivät kasaan jotain törkyä Joe Bidenin pojasta.

Asiaan liittyen Giuliani teki CNN:n haastattelussa 180° käännöksen parissa sekunnissa.
"Did you ask the Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden?" Cuomo asked Giuliani.
"No, actually I didn't. I asked the Ukraine to investigate the allegations that there was interference in the election of 2016 by the Ukrainians for the benefit of Hillary Clinton, for which there is already a court finding," Giuliani responded.
"You never asked anything about Hunter Biden? You never asked anything about Joe Biden and his role with the prosecutor?" Cuomo asked.
"The only thing I asked about Joe Biden is to get to the bottom of how it was that Lutsenko, who was appointed, dismissed the case," Giuliani said.
"So you did ask Ukraine to look into Joe Biden?" Cuomo pressed.
"Of course I did," Giuliani said.
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Jokohan demarit VIHDOINKIN aloittaisivat virallisen impeachment-tutkimuksen Trumpista? Alanko jo pidättämään hengitystäni?

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Myöhästä, Trump veti jo maton niiltä alta.
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Trump kertoo julkaisevansa Ukrainan presidentin kanssa käymänsä kohutun puhelinkeskustelun sisällön

Heinäkuinen puhelu on aiheuttanut Yhdysvalloissa poliittisen selkkauksen, jossa Trumpia syytetään Zelenskyin painostamisesta.
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