Ukrainan konflikti/sota

Kyllä ryssä puskee vielä Pokrovskin suunnalla. Tässä kuvaa, keulilla miinanraivaaja nelivedolla.


Okei, nyt olen nähnyt kaiken. Todellakin, siinä on maailman toiseksi kovin armeija. Eikö nuo lampaat uskalla panna esimiehilleen hanttiin ja sanoa etteivät suostu tuollaiseen ? Konttaamalla ja kävelykepillä linkaten kohti ukrainalaisten asemia. Ei jumalauta. :facepalm:

Ja propaganda ei voisi olla kauempana totuudesta.

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Munich Conference to focus on deploying European peacekeepers to Ukraine

The deployment of European peacekeepers to Ukraine will be a key topic of discussion at the Munich Security Conference, scheduled for this week, February 14-16

France, the UK, and the Baltic states have already raised the possibility of sending their peacekeepers to Ukraine. However, German officials consider the idea premature.

The prospect of a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia has sparked active discussions about sending European troops to Ukraine to monitor a ceasefire and deter a potential Russian reinvasion. However, there are no concrete initiatives yet, and it remains unclear whether Russian President Vladimir Putin would agree to such a move.



Sutsilla taas satsit housuissa ja putlerin suhtautumista arvuutellaan 🤡
 
Okei, nyt olen nähnyt kaiken. Todellakin, siinä on maailman toiseksi kovin armeija. Eikö nuo lampaat uskalla panna esimiehilleen hanttiin ja sanoa etteivät suostu tuollaiseen ? Konttaamalla ja kävelykepillä linkaten kohti ukrainalaisten asemia. Ei jumalauta.

Arvatenkin kieltäytymisen seuraus on se, että esimiehet hakkaavat lekalla ensin polvilumpiot ja sen jälkeen pään tohjoksi (tai jotain vastaavaa), joten voi olla parempi vaan kontata...
 
Tuore kokonainen video

Miten vi..ssa tuo savuava ukko selvisi räjähdyksestä :oops: drone läpäisee vaunun kyljen ja ammustäyttö selvästi syttyy räjähdysmäisenä ruutipalona, oliko tuo äijä vaunun vieressä ulkona, liekit lyö kuskin luukustakin, ei siellä sisällä kukaan ammusten lähtiessä tajuissaan pysy / pääse enää lojahduksen jälkeen pihalle🤯
 
Venäjän tykistö on muuttunut kolmessa vuodessa asevoimien vahvuusalueesta yhdeksi sen heikkoudeksi. Huono kalusto ja ammukset sekä käyttäjien ala-arvoinen koulutus on todella heikko yhdistelmä vielä kun huomioidaan kuinka suuri johtamisvaje heillä on ollut jo alusta alkaen. Ei riitä viisi vuotta eikä kymmenenkään korjaamaan systeemistä ongelmaa kun edes kunnollista kalustoa kouluttaa seuraavia saapumiseriä ei ole.


Ukrainalla pientä etenemistä Kamianskessa, Zaporitsian suunnalla. Täältä Venäjä on joukkoja vetänyt kaikkialle muualle joko hyökkäämään tai puolustamaan, kuinkahan heikoksi linja on lopulta jätetty.

 
Kova on yritys saada Kursk takaisin, Pohjois-Korean joukkojen lisäksi siellä on ollut Venäjän jäljellä olevista joukoista parhaimmistoa. Spetsnaz upseeri on tammikuussa päätynyt matojen muonaksi.


Kalustopula ryssillä ei tietenkään ole mitenkään akuutti vaan sitä jemmataan seuraavia sotia varten, muuten vain tuodaan harvinaista sukellusveneiden torjuntakalustoa rintamalle, kun se tunnetusti soveltuu aivan oivallisesti tähän maasodan vaiheeseen.

 
Kova on yritys saada Kursk takaisin, Pohjois-Korean joukkojen lisäksi siellä on ollut Venäjän jäljellä olevista joukoista parhaimmistoa. Spetsnaz upseeri on tammikuussa päätynyt matojen muonaksi.


Kalustopula ryssillä ei tietenkään ole mitenkään akuutti vaan sitä jemmataan seuraavia sotia varten, muuten vain tuodaan harvinaista sukellusveneiden torjuntakalustoa rintamalle, kun se tunnetusti soveltuu aivan oivallisesti tähän maasodan vaiheeseen.


Tämä on hyvää kehitystä kun spetsnazin sakkia käytetään ilmeisesti normaalin kiväärijalkaväen tapaan lihamyllyrynnäköissä.
 
Mielenkiintoisia numeroita, tässä lainataan IISS:n arviota ryssän joukkojen määrästä Ukrainassa sodan eri aikoina (IISS on sama organisaatio joka laatii The Military Balance julkaisun, joten heidän arvionsa ovat laadultaan vaihtelevia):

A deadly combination for Russia's global terror ambitions, as Russian troop levels begin falling amidst increasing monthly casualty numbers.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies now estimates about 620,000 Russian troops in Ukraine, losing almost 50,000/month.


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Samasta artikkelista lainattu IISS:n arvio ryssän tappioista:

"A minimum of 172,000 Russian troops have been killed and 611,000 wounded, of which at least 376,000 are severely wounded (disabled), with up to an accumulated 235,000 wounded but recoverable." per @IISS_org estimates.

https://www.iiss.org/online-analysi...underscore-the-importance-of-mass-in-ukraine/

10th February 2025

Combat losses and manpower challenges underscore the importance of ‘mass’ in Ukraine​

Ukrainian forces managed to blunt Russian territorial advances and inflict significant casualties and material losses in 2024, even with ammunition shortages and a deficit in infantry. However, Ukraine will need continued Western support and better manpower-management to avoid further battlefield setbacks.
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This blog post was first published on the Military Balance+ on 6 February 2025

While 2024 was a difficult year for Ukraine on the battlefield, its armed forces have managed to limit Russian territorial advances and inflict significant losses. These outcomes, achieved despite Ukraine’s acute shortage of ammunition in the first half of 2024 and manpower difficulties, show that Russia’s successes on the battlefield are certainly not decisive.

Equipped but not staffed: Ukraine’s challenge for 2025​

Ukraine’s armed forces are not currently facing a critical situation with regards to equipment; however, they will likely need significantly more weapons, especially modern Western-made systems, to reliably stop Russian assaults. Launching offensives and liberating occupied territory would require considerably more materiel. If the West were to reduce or halt its support, the situation would seriously degrade in the medium term.

Three years after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the first results of joint ventures, partner programmes and larger contracts between Ukraine and various defence companies and governments in the West are progressively bearing fruit. These will likely pick up steam throughout 2025. Furthermore, Ukraine’s own defence industry has been able to adapt, producing some key equipment at scale, such as the 2S22 Bohdana self-propelled artillery system at a reported production rate of 16 per month. This can be seen from the diverse range of units across the Ground Forces, National Guard and Marines equipped with the 2S22.

Nevertheless, the main challenge Ukraine currently faces is manpower, specifically with regards to management and allocation.

Several of the newly formed brigades, for example, the 152nd Jaeger and 155th Mechanised, went through a chaotic formation process, with entire battalions being detached and sent to replenish depleted frontline brigades. This resulted in longer than usual forming up periods and troops suffered from inadequate training. These newly formed brigades, such as the 150th Mechanised, were sent to parts of the frontline that were experiencing some of the harshest combat and suffered significant casualties.

Ukraine’s military has only ad hoc command formations above the brigade level, making inter-brigade communications and cooperation uneven and difficult, and in the worst cases causing gaps on the frontline. Infantry battalions’ attrition remains the highest, with reported staffing figures ranging from 20–30% of full strength. The number experienced personnel in these units is dwindling, all the while they face skilled drone pilots and artillery operators, which aggravates the problem.

These command and manpower management problems are regularly mentioned by Ukrainians as a dissuasive factor to volunteer for service. Ukraine’s most elite and prestigious units advertise and recruit directly and have fewer manpower-shortage issues. If Ukraine addresses these problems, it could noticeably improve its military capabilities. The country still has enough non-mobilised manpower to fully staff its depleted units, with its need estimated as between 50,000 and 100,000 additional personnel. The Ukrainian government’s latest nominations and proposed reforms are aimed at tackling these issues.


Staffed and decently equipped: Russia’s outlook for 2025​

The IISS estimates that Russian equipment losses in 2024 amounted to around 1,400 main battle tanks (MBTs) and more than 3,700 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) and armoured personnel carriers (APCs). In total, Russia is estimated to have lost approximately 14,000 MBTs, IFVs and APCs since it launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Despite these staggering numbers, Russia has been able to reconstitute some of these losses by relying on stored Soviet legacy equipment. The IISS estimates that last year, Russia refurbished and built more than 1,500 MBTs and around 2,800 IFVs and APCs. Equipment remaining in storage is highly likely to be in a deteriorated condition, which may make it difficult for Russia to deliver enough equipment to offset previous attrition rates.
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In late 2024, Military Balance+ data showed that Russia’s active equipment numbers* only just reached a level similar to pre-February 2022. The significant expansion of units has exacerbated the deficit of equipment required to reach full strength. This issue is also compounded by a lack of quality and a potential lack of spare parts. The main issue that Russia suffers from is a dearth of IFVs and APCs, even with greater rates of production. However, Russia has adapted its tactics, which try to mitigate these issues by relying on stopgap measures and further infantry-based assaults to push the frontline.

Like equipment losses, it is difficult to know the exact number of Russian casualties. However, as of early January 2025, the IISS estimates that a minimum of 172,000 Russian troops have been killed and 611,000 wounded, of which at least 376,000 are severely wounded (disabled), with up to an accumulated 235,000 wounded but recoverable. Russian recruitment, including the forced mobilisation in occupied Donbas, the mobilisation in 2022, and recruiting from the prison system, has generated approximately 976,000 personnel for the war effort. Up to 617,000 – including those recoverable wounded and those undergoing training – are therefore estimated by the IISS to be deployed in or near Ukraine as of late December 2024.
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The bottom line​

While Russian forces are likely to degrade in the coming months, they have been sufficiently reconstituted and adapted to sustain offensive operations for at least another year; this would, however, come at a very high cost of equipment and casualties. The situation is not as dire for Ukraine as it was in early 2024, but it will still rely on Western support and improving its manpower-management to avoid further setbacks on the battlefield.

*Current numbers in The Military Balance 2025, also accounts for equipment deployed, in reserve, used for training, in maintenance and undergoing repairs.

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IISS:n arvio ryssän panssarivaunujen menetyksistä koko sodan aikana (helmikuu 2022 - joulukuu 2024):

T-72 = 2130
T-80 = 1475
T-62 = 335
T-90 = 257
T-64 = 146
T-55 = 10

Yhteensä = 4353

Tuossa spoilerin takana he kirjoittavat että arvioivat panssarivaunujen tappioiksi noin 1400 kpl vuonna 2024 ja ryssän kyenneen aktivoimaan varastoista, modernisoimaan ja valmistamaan uusia yhteensä 1500 kpl, eli kykenivät juuri ja juuri kattamaan tappiot.

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MUOKKAUS: tiedoksi myös että Military Balance 2025 julkaistaan huomenna joten ei mene kauaa kun saadaan nähdä IISS:n arvio mm. ryssän varastotukikohtien kaluston määristä yms.

Ainakin heidän numeronsa ovat omiaan herättämään keskustelua näitä numeroita pyörittelevien taholla.
 
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Ukrainan rekrytointipisteillä vuodessa 40.000 hakijaa

Ukrainaan avattiin helmikuussa 2024 rekrytointipisteitä helpottamaan miespulaa. Vuoden aikana näissä kävi yhteensä 39,488 hakijaa, joista 8,300 on otettu koulutukseen.




Pieniä on numerot runsasväkiselle sotaa käyvälle maalle, pv kouluttaa vuosittain 22.000 varusmiestä.
Kanatas kaivaa vähän syvemmältä. Tuossa jutussa on virhe. Ukraina hyväksy 18-25 vuotitaat armejaan 2025 helmikuussa. Ennen tuota ne ei ole voineet edes hakea Ukraina asevoimiin. Joko tossa vääristellään lukuja aika lailla tai sitten ei oteta lainsäädäntöä huomioon. Tosin kaivelin tuota niin joka paikassa sanotaan feb 2024. Mutta kun tuo laki. 2025 on voinut ottaa 18-25 armeejaan niin jossain on virhe. Tuo uutinen kuitenkin perustuu alkuperäseen uutiseeen johon se viitaakin että zele hyväksy laen joka mahdollistaa 18-25 liittymisen vaapaa ehtoisesti. Olisiko toimitukselle sattunut virhe 25 on kääntynyt 24.

Edit kaivelin lisää.

Tää on enen lakia


ja tää viime vuodelta


Tuossa ekassa sanotaan 5300 kuukaudessa joka on ennätys enne tuota lakia(koskee tiettyä aluettä ei koko maata). Niin 40000 vuoteen on aika vähän varsinkin kun alempi viitaa siihen että noin 6500 keskimäärin
 
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Mielenkiintoisia numeroita, tässä lainataan IISS:n arviota ryssän joukkojen määrästä Ukrainassa sodan eri aikoina (IISS on sama organisaatio joka laatii The Military Balance julkaisun, joten heidän arvionsa ovat laadultaan vaihtelevia):

A deadly combination for Russia's global terror ambitions, as Russian troop levels begin falling amidst increasing monthly casualty numbers.

The International Institute for Strategic Studies now estimates about 620,000 Russian troops in Ukraine, losing almost 50,000/month.


Katso liite: 119415


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Samasta artikkelista lainattu IISS:n arvio ryssän tappioista:

"A minimum of 172,000 Russian troops have been killed and 611,000 wounded, of which at least 376,000 are severely wounded (disabled), with up to an accumulated 235,000 wounded but recoverable." per @IISS_org estimates.

https://www.iiss.org/online-analysi...underscore-the-importance-of-mass-in-ukraine/

10th February 2025

Combat losses and manpower challenges underscore the importance of ‘mass’ in Ukraine​

Ukrainian forces managed to blunt Russian territorial advances and inflict significant casualties and material losses in 2024, even with ammunition shortages and a deficit in infantry. However, Ukraine will need continued Western support and better manpower-management to avoid further battlefield setbacks.
7.2.25.jpg


This blog post was first published on the Military Balance+ on 6 February 2025

While 2024 was a difficult year for Ukraine on the battlefield, its armed forces have managed to limit Russian territorial advances and inflict significant losses. These outcomes, achieved despite Ukraine’s acute shortage of ammunition in the first half of 2024 and manpower difficulties, show that Russia’s successes on the battlefield are certainly not decisive.

Equipped but not staffed: Ukraine’s challenge for 2025​

Ukraine’s armed forces are not currently facing a critical situation with regards to equipment; however, they will likely need significantly more weapons, especially modern Western-made systems, to reliably stop Russian assaults. Launching offensives and liberating occupied territory would require considerably more materiel. If the West were to reduce or halt its support, the situation would seriously degrade in the medium term.

Three years after Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the first results of joint ventures, partner programmes and larger contracts between Ukraine and various defence companies and governments in the West are progressively bearing fruit. These will likely pick up steam throughout 2025. Furthermore, Ukraine’s own defence industry has been able to adapt, producing some key equipment at scale, such as the 2S22 Bohdana self-propelled artillery system at a reported production rate of 16 per month. This can be seen from the diverse range of units across the Ground Forces, National Guard and Marines equipped with the 2S22.

Nevertheless, the main challenge Ukraine currently faces is manpower, specifically with regards to management and allocation.

Several of the newly formed brigades, for example, the 152nd Jaeger and 155th Mechanised, went through a chaotic formation process, with entire battalions being detached and sent to replenish depleted frontline brigades. This resulted in longer than usual forming up periods and troops suffered from inadequate training. These newly formed brigades, such as the 150th Mechanised, were sent to parts of the frontline that were experiencing some of the harshest combat and suffered significant casualties.

Ukraine’s military has only ad hoc command formations above the brigade level, making inter-brigade communications and cooperation uneven and difficult, and in the worst cases causing gaps on the frontline. Infantry battalions’ attrition remains the highest, with reported staffing figures ranging from 20–30% of full strength. The number experienced personnel in these units is dwindling, all the while they face skilled drone pilots and artillery operators, which aggravates the problem.

These command and manpower management problems are regularly mentioned by Ukrainians as a dissuasive factor to volunteer for service. Ukraine’s most elite and prestigious units advertise and recruit directly and have fewer manpower-shortage issues. If Ukraine addresses these problems, it could noticeably improve its military capabilities. The country still has enough non-mobilised manpower to fully staff its depleted units, with its need estimated as between 50,000 and 100,000 additional personnel. The Ukrainian government’s latest nominations and proposed reforms are aimed at tackling these issues.


Staffed and decently equipped: Russia’s outlook for 2025​

The IISS estimates that Russian equipment losses in 2024 amounted to around 1,400 main battle tanks (MBTs) and more than 3,700 infantry fighting vehicles (IFVs) and armoured personnel carriers (APCs). In total, Russia is estimated to have lost approximately 14,000 MBTs, IFVs and APCs since it launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine.

Despite these staggering numbers, Russia has been able to reconstitute some of these losses by relying on stored Soviet legacy equipment. The IISS estimates that last year, Russia refurbished and built more than 1,500 MBTs and around 2,800 IFVs and APCs. Equipment remaining in storage is highly likely to be in a deteriorated condition, which may make it difficult for Russia to deliver enough equipment to offset previous attrition rates.
mbblog_005_pie-chart-1.jpg


In late 2024, Military Balance+ data showed that Russia’s active equipment numbers* only just reached a level similar to pre-February 2022. The significant expansion of units has exacerbated the deficit of equipment required to reach full strength. This issue is also compounded by a lack of quality and a potential lack of spare parts. The main issue that Russia suffers from is a dearth of IFVs and APCs, even with greater rates of production. However, Russia has adapted its tactics, which try to mitigate these issues by relying on stopgap measures and further infantry-based assaults to push the frontline.

Like equipment losses, it is difficult to know the exact number of Russian casualties. However, as of early January 2025, the IISS estimates that a minimum of 172,000 Russian troops have been killed and 611,000 wounded, of which at least 376,000 are severely wounded (disabled), with up to an accumulated 235,000 wounded but recoverable. Russian recruitment, including the forced mobilisation in occupied Donbas, the mobilisation in 2022, and recruiting from the prison system, has generated approximately 976,000 personnel for the war effort. Up to 617,000 – including those recoverable wounded and those undergoing training – are therefore estimated by the IISS to be deployed in or near Ukraine as of late December 2024.
mbblog_005_line-chart-1.jpg


The bottom line​

While Russian forces are likely to degrade in the coming months, they have been sufficiently reconstituted and adapted to sustain offensive operations for at least another year; this would, however, come at a very high cost of equipment and casualties. The situation is not as dire for Ukraine as it was in early 2024, but it will still rely on Western support and improving its manpower-management to avoid further setbacks on the battlefield.

*Current numbers in The Military Balance 2025, also accounts for equipment deployed, in reserve, used for training, in maintenance and undergoing repairs.


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IISS:n arvio ryssän panssarivaunujen menetyksistä koko sodan aikana (helmikuu 2022 - joulukuu 2024):

T-72 = 2130
T-80 = 1475
T-62 = 335
T-90 = 257
T-64 = 146
T-55 = 10

Yhteensä = 4353

Tuossa spoilerin takana he kirjoittavat että arvioivat panssarivaunujen tappioiksi noin 1400 kpl vuonna 2024 ja ryssän kyenneen aktivoimaan varastoista, modernisoimaan ja valmistamaan uusia yhteensä 1500 kpl, eli kykenivät juuri ja juuri kattamaan tappiot.
Zele sano joulukuussa että 600k örkiä ois Ukrainassa enen sitä lukema oli 690K kesäkuussa niin menee joten kuten linjaan sen kanssa. Mutta mieti kun 20-30k örkiä voidaan värvätä per kuukausi mutta tappiot on 40k. Niin miten tolle käyrälle käy.
 
Okei, nyt olen nähnyt kaiken. Todellakin, siinä on maailman toiseksi kovin armeija. Eikö nuo lampaat uskalla panna esimiehilleen hanttiin ja sanoa etteivät suostu tuollaiseen ? Konttaamalla ja kävelykepillä linkaten kohti ukrainalaisten asemia. Ei jumalauta. :facepalm:

Ja propaganda ei voisi olla kauempana totuudesta.

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mainasin ensin itkeä sitten nauraa mutta menin paskalle. Siellä tajusin nuo on rottia kaikki kuhan koitaavat selvityä. itse oisin kyllä ottanut kuulan ennenmin kun ton ja joku ois sen kuulan oton aikana varmaan lähtenyt mukana.
 
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