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Ukrainan konflikti/sota
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WASHINGTON — The Pentagon is preparing to overhaul how the United States and its allies train and equip the Ukrainian military, reflecting what officials say is the Biden administration’s long-term commitment to support Ukraine in its war with Russia.
The proposal would streamline a training and assistance system that was created on the fly after the Russian invasion in February. The system would be placed under a single new command based in Germany that would be led by a high-ranking U.S. general, according to several military and administration officials.
Gen. Christopher G. Cavoli, the top American officer in Europe, recently presented a proposal outlining the changes to Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III, the officials said. Mr. Austin and his top aides are reviewing the plan and are likely to make a final decision in the coming weeks, senior U.S. officials said, adding that the White House and the Pentagon favored the approach. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe confidential discussions.
Just as the Pentagon has committed more than $16 billion in military aid to Ukraine — a combination of immediate shipments from stockpiles as well as contracts for weapons to be delivered over the next three years — the new command signals that the United States expects the threat from Russia to Ukraine and its neighbors to persist for many years, current and former senior U.S. officials said.
“This recognizes the reality of the important mission of security assistance to our Ukrainian partners,” said Adm. James G. Stavridis, a former supreme allied commander for Europe. “This will also create a formal security structure that our allies and partners can adhere to in terms of getting their equipment and training into the hands of the Ukrainians.”
Gen. David H. Petraeus, a former top U.S. commander in Iraq and Afghanistan, concurred. “This would be a very important and very appropriate initiative,” he said, “given the magnitude of the U.S. effort and the contributions of our NATO allies.”
The new command, which would report to General Cavoli, would carry out the decisions made by the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, a coalition of 40 countries that the Defense Department created after the Russian invasion to address Ukraine's needs and requests. Senior military officials from the member nations met in Brussels this week.
The changes, which aim to give a formal structure to what has been improvised since the war’s onset, are roughly modeled on U.S. train-and-assist efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past two decades.
The proposal originated this year with Gen. Tod D. Wolters, General Cavoli’s predecessor, and was fine-tuned after General Cavoli took command in July.
Lt. Gen. Christopher T. Donahue, who commanded the U.S. evacuation from Afghanistan in August 2021, has coordinated much of the U.S. military assistance to Ukraine from behind the scenes over the past several months.
From his forward headquarters in Wiesbaden, General Donahue, a former commander of the 82nd Airborne Division who now leads the Army’s 18th Airborne Corps, has helped oversee training, talking to Ukrainian generals about their battlefield needs and drawing on his Special Operations background to advise his Ukrainian counterparts.
But General Donahue and his command staff, who have been deployed to Poland and Germany since the early days of the war, are scheduled to return to their main headquarters at Fort Bragg, N.C., in the next month, Defense Department officials said.
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So the Pentagon would need someone else to lead the more formal command structure.
Brig. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, declined to discuss the proposal but added in an email, “We are continuously assessing and refining our internal posture and processes to ensure we provide Ukraine with timely, relevant security assistance to meet its most urgent needs on the battlefield and to build its enduring strength to deter future Russian aggression.”
U.S. officials have not publicly discussed the proposal, partly because Pentagon officials are still sorting through the plan but also to avoid feeding into the narrative of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that his country is at war with the United States and NATO, not Ukraine.
Still, the Pentagon has taken steps to begin the expected consolidation of the train-and-equip duties. Over the summer, a cell of logistics specialists that matches Ukraine’s requests with military donations from more than 40 nations moved to Wiesbaden from Stuttgart, Germany.
The little-known group — formally called the International Donor Coordination Center, along with officers from more than two dozen countries — is playing a pivotal role in supporting Ukraine’s military as its battlefield needs become more complicated.
The Pentagon said on Wednesday that it would send an additional $1.1 billion in long-term military aid to Ukraine, including 18 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launchers, or HIMARS. But unlike the 16 HIMARS the military rushed to Ukraine from its stockpiles over the summer, these new weapons will be ordered from the manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, and will take “a few years” to deliver, a senior Defense Department official told reporters.
Ukrainian and American officials say the now weekly or biweekly Pentagon announcements of new shipments of weapons and munitions from U.S. inventories have given Kyiv’s senior commanders the confidence to plan complex simultaneous offensives, like those in the Kherson region in the south and in Kharkiv in the northeast.
Ukrainian soldiers are temporarily pulled off the battlefield to learn how to operate American and other Western weapons systems. About 2,000 Ukrainians have been trained so far on U.S. artillery and drones, according to Pentagon officials.
Wiesbaden would be the locus of U.S.-led training and assistance, but other Western countries are training Ukrainian soldiers elsewhere. Britain, for instance, started a program over the summer to train as many as 10,000 Ukrainian recruits in weaponry, patrol tactics, first aid and other skills at British bases. Denmark announced this month that it would begin a similar program for Ukrainian recruits.
Soon after Russia’s first invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014, the United States and several other Western countries established training centers in western Ukraine. Special Operations forces trained thousands of Ukrainians before the latest conflict ended the instructions.
With no U.S. troops currently in Ukraine, providing support by phone or computer has been challenging, American officers say.
“It is much more difficult now to communicate with our allies and partners,” Maj. Gen. Steven G. Edwards, the head of U.S. Special Operations forces in Europe, said at a security forum this month. “Teleconference is good, but it’s not nearly the same as what we had before.”
The proposed command would oversee formal instruction at training ranges in Germany as well as technical support centers that have been set up in neighboring countries.
A 50-member military repair team at a base in Poland, for instance, has been providing technical assistance to Ukrainian soldiers on how to fix damaged U.S.-provided arms, including M777 howitzers. Ukrainian manufacturers have taken the additional step of figuring out how to reverse-engineer spare parts.
Since the program began in June, more than a dozen teleconference channels have been set up with over 100 Ukrainian contacts, military officials said.
“This is the proverbial David and Goliath scenario, right?” Command Master Chief Peter C. Musselman, the senior enlisted Special Operations soldier in Europe, said at the security forum. “And David is holding his own pretty good right now.”
The proposal would streamline a training and assistance system that was created on the fly after the Russian invasion in February. The system would be placed under a single new command based in Germany that would be led by a high-ranking U.S. general, according to several military and administration officials.
Gen. Christopher G. Cavoli, the top American officer in Europe, recently presented a proposal outlining the changes to Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III, the officials said. Mr. Austin and his top aides are reviewing the plan and are likely to make a final decision in the coming weeks, senior U.S. officials said, adding that the White House and the Pentagon favored the approach. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe confidential discussions.
Just as the Pentagon has committed more than $16 billion in military aid to Ukraine — a combination of immediate shipments from stockpiles as well as contracts for weapons to be delivered over the next three years — the new command signals that the United States expects the threat from Russia to Ukraine and its neighbors to persist for many years, current and former senior U.S. officials said.
“This recognizes the reality of the important mission of security assistance to our Ukrainian partners,” said Adm. James G. Stavridis, a former supreme allied commander for Europe. “This will also create a formal security structure that our allies and partners can adhere to in terms of getting their equipment and training into the hands of the Ukrainians.”
Gen. David H. Petraeus, a former top U.S. commander in Iraq and Afghanistan, concurred. “This would be a very important and very appropriate initiative,” he said, “given the magnitude of the U.S. effort and the contributions of our NATO allies.”
The new command, which would report to General Cavoli, would carry out the decisions made by the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, a coalition of 40 countries that the Defense Department created after the Russian invasion to address Ukraine's needs and requests. Senior military officials from the member nations met in Brussels this week.
The State of the War
- Annexation Push: After Moscow’s proxies conducted a series of sham referendums in the Ukrainian regions of Zaporizhzhia, Kherson, Luhansk and Donetsk, President Vladimir V. Putin declared the four territories to be part of Russia. Western leaders, including President Biden in the United States, denounced the annexation as illegal.
- Retreat From Key City: Russian forces withdrew from the strategically important city of Lyman, in Donetsk Province, on Oct. 1. The retreat was a significant setback for Moscow, coming just a day after Mr. Putin declared the region to be Russian territory.
- Putin’s Nuclear Threats: For the first time since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, top Russian leaders are making explicit nuclear threats and officials in Washington are gaming out scenarios should Mr. Putin decide to use a tactical nuclear weapon.
- Russia’s Draft: The Kremlin has acknowledged that its new military draft is rife with problems, as protests have erupted across Russia, recruitment centers have been attacked and thousands of men have left the country.
The changes, which aim to give a formal structure to what has been improvised since the war’s onset, are roughly modeled on U.S. train-and-assist efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past two decades.
The proposal originated this year with Gen. Tod D. Wolters, General Cavoli’s predecessor, and was fine-tuned after General Cavoli took command in July.
Lt. Gen. Christopher T. Donahue, who commanded the U.S. evacuation from Afghanistan in August 2021, has coordinated much of the U.S. military assistance to Ukraine from behind the scenes over the past several months.
From his forward headquarters in Wiesbaden, General Donahue, a former commander of the 82nd Airborne Division who now leads the Army’s 18th Airborne Corps, has helped oversee training, talking to Ukrainian generals about their battlefield needs and drawing on his Special Operations background to advise his Ukrainian counterparts.
But General Donahue and his command staff, who have been deployed to Poland and Germany since the early days of the war, are scheduled to return to their main headquarters at Fort Bragg, N.C., in the next month, Defense Department officials said.
Live Updates: Russia-Ukraine War
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- The director general of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant has been released from detention, the U.N. nuclear agency says.
- The Kremlin, after trumpeting annexation, admits it doesn’t know where the borders are.
- Ukraine’s forces show no sign of slowing down after the capture of Lyman.
So the Pentagon would need someone else to lead the more formal command structure.
Brig. Gen. Patrick S. Ryder, the Pentagon press secretary, declined to discuss the proposal but added in an email, “We are continuously assessing and refining our internal posture and processes to ensure we provide Ukraine with timely, relevant security assistance to meet its most urgent needs on the battlefield and to build its enduring strength to deter future Russian aggression.”
U.S. officials have not publicly discussed the proposal, partly because Pentagon officials are still sorting through the plan but also to avoid feeding into the narrative of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that his country is at war with the United States and NATO, not Ukraine.
Still, the Pentagon has taken steps to begin the expected consolidation of the train-and-equip duties. Over the summer, a cell of logistics specialists that matches Ukraine’s requests with military donations from more than 40 nations moved to Wiesbaden from Stuttgart, Germany.
The little-known group — formally called the International Donor Coordination Center, along with officers from more than two dozen countries — is playing a pivotal role in supporting Ukraine’s military as its battlefield needs become more complicated.
The Pentagon said on Wednesday that it would send an additional $1.1 billion in long-term military aid to Ukraine, including 18 High Mobility Artillery Rocket System launchers, or HIMARS. But unlike the 16 HIMARS the military rushed to Ukraine from its stockpiles over the summer, these new weapons will be ordered from the manufacturer, Lockheed Martin, and will take “a few years” to deliver, a senior Defense Department official told reporters.
Ukrainian and American officials say the now weekly or biweekly Pentagon announcements of new shipments of weapons and munitions from U.S. inventories have given Kyiv’s senior commanders the confidence to plan complex simultaneous offensives, like those in the Kherson region in the south and in Kharkiv in the northeast.
Ukrainian soldiers are temporarily pulled off the battlefield to learn how to operate American and other Western weapons systems. About 2,000 Ukrainians have been trained so far on U.S. artillery and drones, according to Pentagon officials.
Wiesbaden would be the locus of U.S.-led training and assistance, but other Western countries are training Ukrainian soldiers elsewhere. Britain, for instance, started a program over the summer to train as many as 10,000 Ukrainian recruits in weaponry, patrol tactics, first aid and other skills at British bases. Denmark announced this month that it would begin a similar program for Ukrainian recruits.
Soon after Russia’s first invasion of eastern Ukraine in 2014, the United States and several other Western countries established training centers in western Ukraine. Special Operations forces trained thousands of Ukrainians before the latest conflict ended the instructions.
With no U.S. troops currently in Ukraine, providing support by phone or computer has been challenging, American officers say.
“It is much more difficult now to communicate with our allies and partners,” Maj. Gen. Steven G. Edwards, the head of U.S. Special Operations forces in Europe, said at a security forum this month. “Teleconference is good, but it’s not nearly the same as what we had before.”
The proposed command would oversee formal instruction at training ranges in Germany as well as technical support centers that have been set up in neighboring countries.
A 50-member military repair team at a base in Poland, for instance, has been providing technical assistance to Ukrainian soldiers on how to fix damaged U.S.-provided arms, including M777 howitzers. Ukrainian manufacturers have taken the additional step of figuring out how to reverse-engineer spare parts.
Since the program began in June, more than a dozen teleconference channels have been set up with over 100 Ukrainian contacts, military officials said.
“This is the proverbial David and Goliath scenario, right?” Command Master Chief Peter C. Musselman, the senior enlisted Special Operations soldier in Europe, said at the security forum. “And David is holding his own pretty good right now.”
Seksihän on kaunis asia, minulla ei ole mitään pahaa sanottavaa miesten hellistä hetkistä. Mikäs siinä jos tykkää, jokaisen oma asia, mutta onhan tämä jo irvokkuudessaan melko koomista, ryssä taistelee lännen homokulttuuria vastaan ja samalla paneskelee keskenään jossain raunioissa ja sitten tulee murkulaa niskaan
StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Kannatetaan. Siitä ne asiat paranoo.
Oikein ja luonnollista, varsinkin se murkulaSeksihän on kaunis asia, minulla ei ole mitään pahaa sanottavaa miesten hellistä hetkistä. Mikäs siinä jos tykkää, jokaisen oma asia, mutta onhan tämä jo irvokkuudessaan melko koomista, ryssä taistelee lännen homokulttuuria vastaan ja samalla paneskelee keskenään jossain raunioissa ja sitten tulee murkulaa niskaan
hyvis
Eversti
Yllättävän hyvässä lihassa ovat Prokopenko ja kumppanit. Ainakin verrattuna muutamiin muihin vapautettuihin
Viimeksi muokattu:
No hei, sotilaalliset tavoitteet lähes saavutettu, tuokin taistelupari pois iljettävistä homosteluhommista.Seksihän on kaunis asia, minulla ei ole mitään pahaa sanottavaa miesten hellistä hetkistä. Mikäs siinä jos tykkää, jokaisen oma asia, mutta onhan tämä jo irvokkuudessaan melko koomista, ryssä taistelee lännen homokulttuuria vastaan ja samalla paneskelee keskenään jossain raunioissa ja sitten tulee murkulaa niskaan
Coffee Man
Respected Leader
Venäjä on erottanut läntisen sotilaspiirinsä komentajan, kenraalieversti Aleksandr Žuravljovin. Asiasta kertoo venäläismedia RBC uutistoimisto Reutersn mukaan.
Venäjän asevoimat tai puolustusministeriö eivät ole vahvistaneet tietoa. Ministeriön sivulla läntisen sotilaspiirin komentajan kerrotaan edelleen olevan Žuravljov.
RBC:n lähteet kertovat kuitenkin, että Žuravljov korvataan kenraaliluutnantti Roman Berdnikovilla, joka on jo kertaalleen saanut potkut läntisen sotilaspiirin johdosta. Syyskuussa uutisoitiin, että Berdnikov oli erotettu vain 15 päivän jälkeen, mutta nyt hän on saamassa uuden tilaisuuden.
Viime kuukausina niin läntisen kuin itäisen sotilaspiirin komentajia on erotettu tehtävistään Venäjän kehnon sotastyksen vuoksi.
Venäjän asevoimat tai puolustusministeriö eivät ole vahvistaneet tietoa. Ministeriön sivulla läntisen sotilaspiirin komentajan kerrotaan edelleen olevan Žuravljov.
RBC:n lähteet kertovat kuitenkin, että Žuravljov korvataan kenraaliluutnantti Roman Berdnikovilla, joka on jo kertaalleen saanut potkut läntisen sotilaspiirin johdosta. Syyskuussa uutisoitiin, että Berdnikov oli erotettu vain 15 päivän jälkeen, mutta nyt hän on saamassa uuden tilaisuuden.
Viime kuukausina niin läntisen kuin itäisen sotilaspiirin komentajia on erotettu tehtävistään Venäjän kehnon sotastyksen vuoksi.
Putinxyjlo
Eversti
Seison korjattuna, Muskin twiitit Putlerin haastamisesta oli pelkkää twitterhelinää. Hyödyllinen idiootti.
StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Vetänyt vahvat töötit varmaan ja kirjoitellut mitä mieleen tulee.
StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Jep. Tuohon ei moni pysty.
Nyt kun ytimet on saatu taas puheenaiheeksi niin entäs kunnon vjenäläinen maskirovska:
Ryssä pamauttaa pienen taktisen omalla puolellaan lähellä ukrainan aluetta.
Lännellä on paskat housussa, eikä se oikein voi vastata vastaiskullakaan ja ryssä pääsee osoittamaan että "mulle ei vittuilla"
Lisäbonuksena voidaan syyttää natoa/kuunatseja/juutalaisia ja aiheuttaa lisää hämmennystä ja sekasortoa.
Sopis ihan hyvin venäjän pelikirjaan kun sen homma on muutenkin kuin pulun kanssa shakin peluuta: ensin se kaataa nappulat ja sitten paskoo laudalle.
Ryssä pamauttaa pienen taktisen omalla puolellaan lähellä ukrainan aluetta.
Lännellä on paskat housussa, eikä se oikein voi vastata vastaiskullakaan ja ryssä pääsee osoittamaan että "mulle ei vittuilla"
Lisäbonuksena voidaan syyttää natoa/kuunatseja/juutalaisia ja aiheuttaa lisää hämmennystä ja sekasortoa.
Sopis ihan hyvin venäjän pelikirjaan kun sen homma on muutenkin kuin pulun kanssa shakin peluuta: ensin se kaataa nappulat ja sitten paskoo laudalle.
Kyllä tuossa Rigor Mortis saa ihan uuden ulottuvuuden
Musk on vain ja ainoastaan menestynyt huijari.
FinnNSF
Ylipäällikkö
Olisi ihan looginen jatkumo omien kaasuputkien tuhoamiselle.
Kyllä länsi varmasti lopulta hämääntyy luovuttamaan kun ryssä tarpeeksi kovaa takoo itseään lättyyn
OXPAHA
Kenraali
Tuolla anglosfäärissä todella monet fiksuina pitämäni kommentaattorit ovat aivan pihalla voima- ja reaalipolitiikasta, Venäjän olemuksesta ja Ukrainasta ylipäätään. On helppoa käydä kauppaa jonkun toisen kotimaasta.
Henkilökohtaisesti odotan ryssän antautumista Ukrainan alueella ja Putinille nkskalaukausta. Millekään sovulle ja varsinkaan puolueettomuudelle ei ole enää sijaa tässä todellisuudessa.
Ansioistaan riippumatta en ottaisi sotimisessa neuvoja misseiltä, tangokuninkaallisilta, urheilijoilta tai pöhinämiljardööreiltä.
StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Mariupolin motin porukka teki korvaamattoman arvokasta työtä. Sitoivat kuukausiksi ryssän toimivinta kärkeä ja tuhosivat siitä suuren osan. Ukraina sai aikaa varustautua ja kouluttaa Armeijan.Azovin komentajia palkittu
Kilroy
Kersantti
Tulee vahvasti mieleen Trumpetti.. Molemmat omasta miestään niin helvetin fiksuja että voivat töräyttää mitä tahansa mitä mieleen tulee ajattelematta asiaa sen enempää.. Puhumattakaan että oikeasti asioista tietäviltä kysyisivät ja miettisivät muutaman kerran ennen suunsa avaamista.
Ongelmaa ei ole kun tälläinen tavallinen tallaaja tekee niin.. Mutta jos USA:n pressa tai maailman rikkain tekee niin ei kannata ihmetellä että heitä pidetään idiootteina..
lsoviha
Majuri
Venäjän presidentti Vladimir Putin on aikeissa osoittaa valmiutensa käyttää joukkotuhoaseita, brittilehti The Times uutisoi.
Lehden puolustuslähteiden mukaan Putin saattaa tehdä ydinkokeen Ukrainan rajalla. Tähän viittaa myös havainnot, joiden mukaan Venäjän salaisen ydinasedivisioonan operoima juna on liikkeellä kohti Ukrainaa.
www.thetimes.co.uk
Lehden puolustuslähteiden mukaan Putin saattaa tehdä ydinkokeen Ukrainan rajalla. Tähän viittaa myös havainnot, joiden mukaan Venäjän salaisen ydinasedivisioonan operoima juna on liikkeellä kohti Ukrainaa.
Putin orders nuclear military train to Ukraine front line
President Putin is set to demonstrate his willingness to use weapons of mass destruction with a nuclear test on Ukraine’s borders, defence sources have warned.