Ukrainan konflikti/sota

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Ryssän foliohattuilijat väittävät nyt, että Shahed-136:t joilla isketään ukrainan infraan ovat oikeasti ukrainalaisten itsensä lähettämiä ja tuhoavat itseltään energiainfraa sitä varten että voivat 'mankua' länsimailta aseapua.
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En ole psykologi, mutta foliohattuilijoilla on aivoissa jo vamma. :facepalm:



Ryssä väittää, että ukraina rekryää ulkomaisista vankiloista natsitaustaisia palkkasotilaita sotimaan ukrainaan (koska heillä menee rintamalla niin huonosti, näin rivien välistä).
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Perus ryssän "NO U" -korttia jälleen käytetty :facepalm:



Yleisenä huomiona: Ryssällä edelleen crowdfunding menossa todella usealla kanavalla, koska alunperinkin sotaan osallistuneilla yksiköillä ei ole varusteita.



Alla oleva 2 majors kanavalta, ottakaa osittaisella suolalla, sillä ryssän on tunnettu liioittelevan ja jopa tekaisevansa tapahtumia boostatakseen omaa moraaliaan viimeaikoina.
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Eräs ryssän semi-pitkä kirjoitus jossa itsereflektoidaan "NVO":n tapahtumia sekä ryssämäisyyttä itseään.
@komissarischezaet
There is a common place in conversations about February 24, 2022, that in our power someone convinced someone of the reality of the repetition of Prague-68 (which was, as everyone understands, complete absurdity) - and further events, originally arranged specifically for this plot, rolled to no one knows where.
But something must be added to this thought, which no one else seems to have spoken about.
Firstly, in these same general discussions on February 24, the obligatory sounds further: but it was necessary, they say, to prepare properly, it was necessary to stock up on troops and resources for a serious conflict, and then ...
But no, it is important to understand that if in February there was a paper of great persuasiveness on the Kremlin table proving that there would be no Prague-68, and, therefore, it was necessary to do this and that, then there would simply be no SVO, and indeed all.
That is, the condition for launching what happened was precisely faith in Prague. No one would "work a lot and for a long time", our system never does this if it can somehow avoid it.
And one more thing, although this is already my conspiracy theory.
I do not rule out that those characters who invented "Prague" - they knew perfectly well that they were deceiving their addressee. They knew, but still claimed that everything would be easy and simple. And not because they wanted to harm the addressee.
No, they just wanted to draw him in - and they understood that they would not succeed in any other option.
You know, it’s like if two men are sitting, and one of them loves fishing very much, and the second one doesn’t mind either, but he doubts, and he also has a good jeep.
And the first says to the second: let's go, old man! We're flying fast! We just sit down - and we’ll go such a bite that you will swing. The ear will be - what time!
But in fact, this first man knows perfectly well that the road is long and hard, that it will not be pecking soon, if at all, that they will get wet and stick out on the shore for God knows how long.
But it is important for him that the second man agrees - after all, if you tell him the truth, he will refuse, so you need to convince him as you please, and then we will figure it out as the play progresses.
This, in my opinion, happened before February 24th.

How stupid our system is.
And she is hopelessly stupid, because she is obsessed with the idea of making a good impression on her enemies. Psychologically dependent on them.
Those, in turn, are completely free from the idea of being liked by someone on this side - they don't care, and even more than that, they want to look bad, evil to us - and therefore they are doing great.
Soviet idiocy is incurable, what else can I say.

(to the latest news)

Now it is impossible to quote such things even with all possible reservations and quotation marks, but everyone can google “Prosvirnin about June 22” and read what will open there.
And, despite what you will read there, Prosvirnin was about a million times more useful than from a crowd of correct politically correct nonentities. And now we miss him so much.
Hypocrisy is a great evil.
We must teach ourselves and society that every bright person - and especially the bright person who is on our side - has the right to his five minutes of filth and stupidity.
Because if there are no nasty and stupid things, then there will be no bright people, but you will have one Konashenkov.
And all the bright people will be in Ukraine - as it, in fact, turns out.

And yes, “we will be greeted with flowers in Kyiv, and anti-fascist Medvedchuk will restore fraternal allied Ukraine” and “bad evil Krasovsky offended Ukrainian children, but we are not like that, we are good” - these are phenomena of literally the same mental disorder.
And they are called - brain liquefaction.
Excuse me.

Eduard Limonov, a national genius and political prophet, died prematurely due to his complete lack of demand in Russia. Still, because he "did a blowjob to a black man", this could not be forgiven in any way.
Andrei Babitsky, an excellent journalist, died useless in Donetsk, having gone over to the side of Russia. Still, after all, twenty years before that - he was for the Chechens, he said all sorts of things about cut off heads, this is unacceptable.
Konstantin Krylov, a philosopher, writer and simply a historical person, died prematurely without quality medicine, but in fact - from complete lack of demand in Russia. Still, he was a "Russian fascist", we can't stand that.
Yegor Prosvirnin, a brilliant journalist and father of a whole youth style, committed suicide from his lack of demand. Still, because he wrote something against the Great Victory, it's terrible.
Alexander Nevzorov and Sergey Dorenko, first-class charismatic propagandists - one turned into insane Ukrainian squalor, and the other died prematurely, and both - from their uselessness of Russia. Still, scandalous types, why do we need such. We have a comrade Konashenkov, he will say everything that we need.
I can continue.
But even so, it seems clear.

It is impossible to explain to the Soviet people that the "Ukrainian children", about whom they cackle so much, are fictional, fake children that exist only in the symbolic world of stupid trolling - while Krasovsky, no matter what a freak, evil clown or brawler, but - a real, living person whom they poison, on whom (to the delight of the Ukrainians) they put organs on fire, and who burned all the bridges in order to take the position that he took, although he, unlike state political officers, could always get a job on that side.
And it is all the more impossible to explain to the Soviet people that all their helpless attempts to please Ukraine, to be good for it, are doomed. Taras does not need your pioneer ties, delicious ice cream, a happy childhood together, memories of how you all watched the film "Belorussky Station" together, peace, friendship, brotherhood, a grandmother with a red flag, anti-fascism and stone feces.
Taras wants only one thing: for you to be gone.
And it can be defeated only by force, freedom and daring, by the detachment of pirates, and not by retirement mumbling, as we came to return everyone to 1984.
It is clear to every reasonable person even for three kopecks that in the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, Russia plays the role of a victim programmed for defeat and humiliation, and Ukraine plays the role of a young and arrogant predator, an aggressor.
Stay at least a little aggressors, donkeys.

Digressing from the topic of the day to a broader generalization, I would like to note that in Russia in general there is a painful fixation on everything "good" and "positive", on the desire to pull the owl of this "positive" on the globe at any cost, while in many other cultures this no.
When, in the late Soviet Union, the pioneers sang with sonorous voices about the world and waved flags, Samantha Smith, Katya Lycheva, friendship, clear skies - in America, daring action movies with mountains of corpses were filmed about how our Russian villains are being killed, and the US president was trolling into the microphone in front of broadcast about the fact that he ordered the atomic bombing of the USSR (and the broadcast had already begun).
Can you imagine Leonid Ilyich or Konstantin Ustinovich joking like that?
"They" have screams, almost fights in the parliaments, in the newspapers - the worst caricatures, everyone calls each other names, scolds, and curses as best they can, and I'm not talking about Ukraine - there are fights in the mud and the wildest verbal escapades are a routine.
And in Russia there is a stubborn desire to force everyone to be good, kind, bright (and it doesn’t matter what all this has to do with reality, it has nothing to do with it, but it still has to be like that).
That is, Russian culture, I repeat, reacts very painfully to the semantic "bottom" - to black humor, all sorts of verbal provocations and radical images of any kind - and all the time tries to take them literally and head-on, to meet them as a terrible threat to itself. It is interesting.
Where does it come from?
I think this desire arises from the fact that we here - historically and traditionally - live badly and terribly.
We are constantly balancing on the brink of collapse and hell, and that is exactly why people want to at least pretend that "everything is fine."
"Negative" (very different) as a conscious gesture - is a property of human well-being. And that is why the West, aware of its own strength, the strength of its own rules of the game, easily treats a fight or a provocation as a convention, as a game - political, newspaper, symbolic. He is not afraid of her (or was not afraid - now something has changed there too).
In our country, where there are no rules, but axes are sharpened and used many times, a symbolic conflict is perceived as real, and a real conflict is perceived as a harbinger of the end of everything, and they try to suppress it even in those cases when it is inevitable, not to mention antics of clowns or radicals.
This fear is understandable, but it is a weakness.
And our strength will begin when everyone here can yell what he likes, including rather vile game - and, surprisingly, the overall structure will only be stronger from this.
But so far, to the general naive joy, this does not shine for us.



Ryssä huhuaa että heillä olisi niin paljon kotimaisia itsemurhadroneja kun vain halua on. Pähkäilevät että olisi tarve vain saada ne toimimaan parvina.
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Ei kommentteja. Katkeruutta vain siitä, että "ei ole sotaa".

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Tämähän on mielenkiintoinen uutinen. Onko ryssä alkanut kannibalisoimaan jo itse itseään Orlaneiden tekoa varten?

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Erään kanavan kuraatoima uutislistaus eiliseltä. Suosittelen edelleen tarkastelemaan tätä suolalasien läpi:
Elena Panina that Russia does not need a consolation prize from the United States, but recognition of the zone of its vital interests near its own borders:
In this case, this is all of Ukraine plus the rollback of NATO’s military infrastructure to the level of 1997 of the year

REDACTED P6 (KOTËL #6) about Kiev’s decision to mobilize another mass of Ukrainians under the age of 60:
“…the RF Ministry of Defense sees a new official wave of mobilization in Russia as more and more likely. Obviously, to the extent of the creativity of the Presidential Administration and the military, a softer name will be invented - like the same “understaffing”

Evening Prophetabout the fact that Zelensky’s decision to create a “dirty bomb” finally and forever fixes him on the list of international terrorists:
“And the financial and military assistance of the West to the Kiev regime is nothing more than complicity in terrorism, which the West is fighting so hard in words”

Novy Vek o that US and EU proposals to sell confiscated Russian assets and transfer the proceeds from this to Ukraine have stalled:
“Sanctioned Alfa Bank shareholder Alexei Kuzmichev paid for the maintenance of his two frozen courts in accordance with 2014 EU law, his lawyer confirmed to Reuters »

Iron Felixabout the fact that since the beginning of the year Krasovsky has been systematically swimming behind the buoys, in fact calling for doing the same as the Ukronazis do:
“Simonyan reacted correctly. That's just the wording "suspension of cooperation" is not entirely appropriate.

They need to be broken once and for all” her husband" Squealer about the fact that German Twitter blocked a photo with "zigging" Azov fighters:
“... it is forbidden to show the German public to whom exactly its money goes! Such is it - the hypocrisy of modern Europe!

Kharisov about the policy that the Indian Rishi Sunak became the new prime minister. Previously, he was the Chancellor of the Exchequer:
“Apparently, the next cabinet of ministers will be just as modern and multipolar. The main thing is not like in America, where there are open transgenders in power "

State Duma 2021 that the business of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson will pass into Russian jurisdiction:
" A bill has been submitted to the State Duma to ensure the participation of legal entities and individual entrepreneurs operating in the DPR , LPR, Kherson and Zaporozhye regions, in Russian civil circulation "

Parliament Z buttonthat Russia is giving the West a credit of trust in advance in connection with Ukraine’s statements about the “dirty bomb”:
“The first was in the case of the IAEA, then the Russian authorities let observers into the nuclear plant, so that they would later declare nonsense in the spirit: the Russian troops are themselves being fired on”

A patented agent that the former photographer of Navalny’s headquarters, Ruslan Akhmetshin, complained to the court that he was not ready for the meeting due to illness, and he had no money to pay for a lawyer:
“Aw! ATS info! Don't be asshole. Help the poor bastard. He is yours - bourgeois ... ”

The Moscow Post that Mishustin fired Alexander Sukhanov, Deputy Head of the Russian Ministry of Transport:
“In his post, the official oversaw transport security issues, including the Crimean bridge, on which a terrorist act was committed on October 8”

Vladimir Gutenev that the expansion of logistics shipping corridors to the East is yielding results:
Duma TV writes that following the results of the quarter of 2022, Russia actively reoriented sea freight from Western markets to Eastern ones. Thus, in the ports of Turkey, the number of calls by Russian ships increased by 44.6%, to 1116, and China - by 17%, to 391 calls "

Russia is not Europe that Russian-Indian cooperation is deepening:
“BrahMos Aerospace is in talks with Indonesia, Malaysia and Vietnam for new orders. The joint venture is 50.5% Indian and 49.5% Russian.”



Huhu, otettava suolalla, mutta pidettävä korvan takana.
Russian President Vladimir Putin has been actively discussing with his inner circle in recent days the possibility of suspending mobilization until the New Year. As of October 24, as part of the "partial" mobilization, the conscription plan was already overfulfilled, more than 523 thousand people were called up, and about 600 thousand called up are expected by November 1. Now Putin is discussing how to arrange a "break" in the mobilization process in such a way as to calm the people and relieve tension in society.

Toinen huhu, suolaa suolan päälle (koska ei voi vahvistaa).
On October 7 and 12 of this year, nuclear weapons tests were canceled, which were initiated by Russian President Vladimir Putin. From October 14 to October 20, there were FIVE more attempts to test nuclear weapons, and only in two cases did the tests take place, but their results upset the president more than encouraged. On October 14, underground tests of nuclear weapons took place in the Irkutsk region, the results of which, according to expert observers, did not correspond to the declared military data. The underground tests scheduled for October 17 and 18 were canceled for "technical reasons", the underwater tests in the Barents Sea were also canceled on October 20, and the results of the underground test carried out on that day (or rather night) in the Kemerovo region,
Secret tests of "heavy duty" weapons on October 20 in the waters of the Gulf of Finland turned out to be a fiction. More than seven billion dollars were poured into Putin's ears in the form of promises to create the latest super-powerful weapons, which are "practically ready for testing", turned out not to be ready at all and "exists" mainly in the imagination of the authors and masters of the budget. Now we need to explain where all the fuss with the alleged preparation of the "dirty bomb" explosion by Ukraine came from. On the evening of October 20, during a meeting with representatives of the leadership of the military and power blocs, Putin discussed the topic of failed nuclear weapons tests. During the discussion, we came to two versions of what happened, either the failure of the tests is sabotage, and it is worth looking for the culprits, or there are simply no possibilities for using nuclear weapons and for some reason we need to figure it out. But to understand and look for the guilty, it is a time and a fuss that can lead to leaks, with disastrous consequences for the regime. So the “brilliant plan” came during the discussion: it’s not a problem to make a “dirty bomb”, and since there is no YET the opportunity to use tactical nuclear weapons, then it is necessary, in case of urgent need, if the president makes such a decision, to use a “dirty bomb”, accusing Ukraine in a provocation on its own territory. Apply the Russian leadership "dirty bomb", the question arises, "where are the vaunted tactical nuclear weapons?"
Mielenkiintoinen huomio ylläolevassa tosin on se, että
a) Jos ryssä käyttää ydinasetta ukrainassa, kaikki tietävät kenen syytä se on, mutta jos
b) ryssä käyttää 'likaista pommia' ukrainassa ja viljelee ennen tätä syytöksiä suuntaan jos toiseen, niin täss tilanteessa syyllisen osoittaminen ryssän toiveiden mukaan on haastavampaa, jolloin
c) ryssän tulee järjestää laajamittainen hybridioperaatio ympäri maailmaa oman propapaskansa levittämiseksi. Muistakaa, että ryssän propapaska keskittyy ei niinkään valheiden levittämiseen, vaan
d) epävarmuuden kylvämiseen jopa luotettuihin tahoihin -> "Et voi luottaa meihin, mutta et voi luottaa heihinkään" -tyylisesti. Tämmöinen torvioperaatio näyttäisi tosiaan olevan menossa (kts esim eiliset uutiset YLE:llä tai ryssän puheenvuorot YK:ssa). Mielenkiintoista...



Kosto elää - ryssän eronneet naiset ilmiantelevat exiään mobilisaation välttelystä 😂



SOTA uutisoi statistiikoista liittyen "armeijan halventamiseen" annetuista tuomioista:
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Yakutiassa myös paikallishallinto ostelee 200k€ autoja veronmaksajien rahoilla, perusteluna että "hallinnon toiminnalle on välttämätöntä omistaa tällaiset mukavat läntiset luksusautot"
-The Moscow Post
Is comfort above all for Yakut officials? Gavril Fedorov , head of the Avtobaza of the Administration of the Head and Government of Yakutia , approved the purchase of two brand new Toyota Hiace minibuses at a price of over 14 million rubles each.

The most curious thing is that such a purchase is explained by the fact that comfortable foreign cars are necessary to "ensure the activities of the regional executive power." And this despite the fact that the government fleet already has 218 cars.

Apparently, the Yakut officials did not hear that regional authorities throughout the country are trying to cut spending and direct the savings to help the mobilized. Or the subordinates of Aisen Nikolaev they just decided they couldn't go on without two fancy minivans.

And it would be nice if the governor 's team were distinguished by efficient work, then such a craving for luxury could be at least somehow understood. But in fact, it turns out that this is a bunch of mediocrity, who can only spend budget funds on their whims.
Niin mikä korruptio?
 
Miettikää nyt vittu tätä koko hommaa, on tää niin naurettavaa. Putte julisti neljä aluetta kuuluvan venäjään - kysymys kuuluu mitä sitten? Itse ainakin odotin venäjän uhoamista jos näillä maille astutaan, eipä kuulu uhoa, lähinnä itkua. :ROFLMAO: Miten helvetissä tommosta sankaria voi enää edes ottaa tosissaan? Puttepossu ja puttepossun paskasakki alkaa näyttämään todella heikolta ainakin omissa silmissä. Jotain "isoa" on pakko tulla, tai sitten tämä homma hiipuu nyt kasaan pikkuhiljaa ja putin kuolee/ heivataan pois. Niin naurettavaa toimintaa maailman toiseksi parhaalta armeijalta että huhhuh. Miettikää kun tulee pakkaset, ryssät pukeutuu varastamiinsa mummokalsareihin ja kuolee kylmyyteen jäisessä poterossa. Ensi keväänä Ukrainalla on jo Krimikin, se on varma. :salut:🇺🇦
 
Rybar väittää, että Ukrainalla olisi nyt omaa GMLRS tuotantoa. Vahvaa vahvaa suolaa.
Pitää paikkansa eikä ole mikään uutinen. On ollut palveluksessa jo vuodesta 2018. Vilkha ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilkha ). Tottakai tarkkuudessa, kantamassa yms. on eroja ja lukumäärä on tietysti mitätön siihen nähden mitä USA on pystynyt antamaan HIMARS/GMLRS-komboa.
 
Sekalaiset twiitit.

1. Ryssä koristelee asemansa vain roskilla ja paskalla, mutta ukrainalainen tekee puhdetyönä hiekkaveistoksen juoksuhautaan.


2. Ukrainan pohjoisrajan lähistöltä ryssälän Baskortostanista on laitettu ratapihan asetinlaite liekkeihin.


3. Suomen mainetyöryhmällä olisi vielä tekemistä, vaikka ei tämä nyt mitenkään umpisurkea tulos ole.


Odottelemme vielä Estonian ääniä...
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Jaa, mutta eihän näissä kisoissa saanutkaan äänestää itseään.:facepalm:
 
Mikä juttu tuo Puolalaisten (vapaaehtoisten) siirtyminen hyökkäys asemiin on? Kuinka paljon polakkeja on päässeet irti puista ja Ukrainan puolelle? Ja onko Puolalaiset varustettu oman armeijansa ajoneuvoilla ja varusteilla? Eli tutulla kamalla? Kuulostaa liian hyvältä ollakseen totta :D
Tässä ryssähuhussa saattaa olla jokunen osa totta.
Ei ole salaisuus, että kansainvälisissä joukoissa on runsaasti (satoja?) puolalaisia.
Perustavat varmaan puolankielisiä joukkueita, ehkä komppanioitakin.
 
Pitää paikkansa eikä ole mikään uutinen. On ollut palveluksessa jo vuodesta 2018. Vilkha ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilkha ). Tottakai tarkkuudessa, kantamassa yms. on eroja ja lukumäärä on tietysti mitätön siihen nähden mitä USA on pystynyt antamaan HIMARS/GMLRS-komboa.
Tuota, sellaista asiaa olen tässä miettinyt jo pitkään, että kuinka paljon länsi tukee Ukrainan omaa asetuotantoa? Eli Ukraina hoitaa suunnittelun ja kasaamisen (sekä osan osien tuotannosta) ja länsi avittaa kehityksessä sekä toimittaa sellaiset osat ja komponentit, joita on hankala valmistaa Ukrainassa?
 
Kuka tuo kapteeni Jääskeläinen on tuolla R-500:ssa?
Joku aniharvinaisen, Stalinin puhdistuksissa henkiin jääneen, Suomalaisperäisen loikkarisukuhaaran vesa, joka nyt tekee jotain mitä ei pitäisi tehdä. :poop: Onneksi on kuitenkin nimi kokenut jonkunmoisen morfoosin ryssämmäksi vuosikymmenien mittaan niin, että harva tuota enää hiffaa, jos ollaan oikein hiljaa asiasta... ;)
 
Jatkona vielä ylläolevalle;

Rybar väittää, että Ukrainalla olisi nyt omaa GMLRS tuotantoa.
Katso liite: 69768

Tuolla on myös muuta vahvasti suolattavaa kapakalaa, mm. väite liittyen Afganistaniin kunnes toisin sanotaan:
Katso liite: 69769
Mielenkiintoinen ryssähuhu tämä GPS-tarkkuuden saaminen UA:n omiin raketteihin.
Epäilemättä tähän on kiinnostusta sekä USA:lla että Ukrainalla. Nimittäin vältytään näiltä eskalaatio keskusteluilta, kun ryssän maaperälle satelee Ukrainan tekemiä raketteja.

Ensimmäisenä tulee mieleen se muutama päivä sitten nähty Ukrainan 300 mm MLRS, jossa on isot kymmenien kilojen taistelukärjet. Jospa tuohon saataisiin istutettua. Mutta voi olla, että tuo GPS ohjaus vaatii niin täydellistä remonttia rakettien suunnitteluun, ettei mikään vanha soviet-pohja siihen enää kelpaa.

Toivotaan että ryssähuhussa on perää.
 
Jo usemamman kerran Ukraina on höynäyttänyt Venäjää julkisilla tiedotteilla.

Nyt sitten kovasti valiteltiiin vaikeuksia Bakhmutin suunnalla joka on ainoa paikka missä Venäjän hyökkäys edistyy.

Prigozhin innostui tästä. Presidenttipeliin tai muuhun valtataisteluun oli saatavilla loistava saavutus. ja hän laittoi kaiken peliin Bakhmutissa.

Mutta Ukrainalla olikin hyvä puolustus siellä ja Venäjän joukkojen tuhoaminen aloitettiin kun niitä oli kertynyt sinne tarpeeksi.
 
Jos pitää paikkansa, niin aika paljon hyviä ryssiä luvassa.
Pohdin tätä yön yli. Arviointimenetelmässä on mielestäni yksi vika: se olettaa että kaikki pika-avioliitot on ns. susiparien eli avoliitossa asuvien 19-49 -vuotiaiden solmimimia ja ekstrapoloi siitä koko väestöön prosenttikertoimella.

Totuushan varmasti on, että osa naimisiin menneistä ei asunut yhdessä vaan kumpikin tahollaan, vanhempien nurkissa tms. Tämä sit johtaa siihen, että yliarvioidaan se osuus susipareista jotka on menneet pikana naimisiin --> yliarvioidaan mobilisoitujen määrä.

Jos jollakulla olisi edes karkea arvio siitä, missä suhteessa erillään asuvat ja avoliitossa on edustettu naimisiin menneiden tilastossa niin ton luvun voi kertoa sillä arviolla. Esim. jos 66% ois avoliittopareja niin arvio mobilisaation koosta ois 0.66*X.
 
Eilisen SAR-kuvista:

Alla Khersonin Dnipron Deltalla aktiivista laivaliikennettä. Roudaavat siis Khersonista varastettua kamaa laskelmiensa mukaan turvallisinta reittiä pois.
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Lisänä vielä;
Darivkan silta näyttää levinneltä. Pitää odotella raporttia aiheesta, tai tuoreempia satelliittikuvia.
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Siinä se ponttoonisilta menee kuitenkine edelleen sillan eteläpuolelta.
 
Tuota, sellaista asiaa olen tässä miettinyt jo pitkään, että kuinka paljon länsi tukee Ukrainan omaa asetuotantoa? Eli Ukraina hoitaa suunnittelun ja kasaamisen (sekä osan osien tuotannosta) ja länsi avittaa kehityksessä sekä toimittaa sellaiset osat ja komponentit, joita on hankala valmistaa Ukrainassa?
Tämä on taas NIITÄ kysymyksiä... :cool:
 
Tässä ryssähuhussa saattaa olla jokunen osa totta.
Ei ole salaisuus, että kansainvälisissä joukoissa on runsaasti (satoja?) puolalaisia.
Perustavat varmaan puolankielisiä joukkueita, ehkä komppanioitakin.

Nybergissä esiintyneen Ralf Sirenin mukaan oli erinäisiä syitä, ettei suomalaisia pistetty isoa porukkaa yhteen. Ei enenpää avannut.
En oikein usko, että siellä kerättäisiin mitään suomalais-, tai puolalaisjoukkueita.
Olisi kyllä varmaan helpompaa komentojen ja taktiikoiden kannalta.

Huom. luutnantti Siren on viimeisenä haastattelussa.
 
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