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Aika skeptinen oli kaverinikin, matemaatikko - ei niin kevyen sarjan ukko, riskianalyytikko, Ruotsin suhteen, laumasuojaan on hyvin pitkä matka ja siitä matkasta voi tulla vielä katastrofi. Suomen kohdalla kuulemma edelleen varsin optimistinen, jos ei löysätä liian aikaisin. Toukokuun alku on liian aikaisin, toukokuun loppu ei välttämättä. Jos ei odoteta vapun vaikutuksia ennenkuin löysätään, otetaanko turha riski? Tietysti, tietysti, pitää muistaa Suomen talous. Se nyt vaan on yhden numeropään mielipide.
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Ruotsissa asuva tuttu kauhuissa tämän ruotsalaisen venäjän ruletin kanssa ja on kateellinen meille Suomessa.
 
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IS uutisoi mutatoitumiseen perustuvasta pöpön alkuperän jäljittämisestä. Ihan hyvä juttu.

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Tutkijat: Korona saattoi alkaa levitä luultua aiemmin, eikä välttämättä Wuhanista

Tutkijaryhmän arvion mukaan on mahdollista, että koronavirus olisikin lähtenyt leviämään Etelä-Kiinassa sijaitsevasta Guangdongin maakunnasta.
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Olin jo ehtinyt unohtaa nuo A,B ja C virustyypit.
Artikkelin mukaan Euroopassa leviää C.
Nythän tässä kiinnostaisi mitä tyyppiä on missäkin maassa. Jos niitä pääsisi vertaamaan kuolleisuuslukuihin voisi oppia jotain uutta.

Toinen itseäni kiinnostava asia on voiko A-tyypin sairastunut sairastua B ja C-tyypin tauteihin?
 
Ranskalaisten mukaan vasta-aineet häviävät nopeasti ja 10% löytyy vasta-aineita.

PARIS - France has also begun to reflect on phase 2 . And an opinion that matters is that of Jean-François Delfraissy. The French immunologist leads the scientific committee that advises Emmanuel Macron in the health emergency. Delfraissy, 71, was a luminary of AIDS research, at the forefront of Ebola. His group of "essays" also includes an anthropologist and a sociologist. "It is important to have a multi-disciplinary approach and to evaluate not only scientific parameters," explains Delfraissy. "I know from experience that every health crisis brings with it the risk of a political and social crisis". The immunologist explains to Repubblica what are his recommendations for starting the end of the lockdown that started on March 17th. With a hope: "France and Italy must agree on a series of shared measures in this very delicate phase. It is one of the keys to success".

Are we beginning to know how many French people are immunized?
"We have the first serological studies and unfortunately they are not encouraging. In the areas most affected by the epidemic we see that immunity is around 10 percent. From what I know it is the same thing in Lombardy. It is much less than what we we waited, and we hoped. We are very far from a natural immunity in the population. But there is another problem ".

"This virus is very particular. We noticed that the lifespan of the protective antibodies against Covid-19 is very short. And we see more and more cases of recurrence in people who have already had a first infection."
So nobody is really protected against coronavirus, not even those who have already fallen ill?
"It seems so. This is why our committee no longer recommends an immune license, a sort of pass for those who have had a first infection."
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Coronavirus, lo scienziato che consiglia Macron: "Anche noi verso Fase 2 ma gli immuni sono troppo pochi, rischio recidive"

Jean-François Delfraissy, l'equivalente oltralpe di Brusaferro, è convinto che potremmo avere un vaccino entro l'anno. "Francia e It…
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Ja ruåttalaiset olettavat että pian jo 50% olis sairastunut... Melkosen ristiriitaista. :rolleyes:

Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, and an advisor to the director general of the WHO, lays out with typically Swedish bluntness why he thinks:

  • UK policy on lockdown and other European countries are not evidence-based
  • The correct policy is to protect the old and the frail only
  • This will eventually lead to herd immunity as a “by-product”
  • The initial UK response, before the “180 degree U-turn”, was better
  • The Imperial College paper was “not very good” and he has never seen an unpublished paper have so much policy impact
  • The paper was very much too pessimistic
  • Any such models are a dubious basis for public policy anyway
  • The flattening of the curve is due to the most vulnerable dying first as much as the lockdown
  • The results will eventually be similar for all countries
  • Covid-19 is a “mild disease” and similar to the flu, and it was the novelty of the disease that scared people.
  • The actual fatality rate of Covid-19 is the region of 0.1%
  • At least 50% of the population of both the UK and Sweden will be shown to have already had the disease when mass antibody testing becomes available

Swedish expert: why lockdowns are the wrong policy

That was one of the more extraordinary interviews we have done here at UnHerd. Professor Johan Giesecke, one of the world’s most senior epidemiologists, advisor to the Swedish Government (he hired Anders Tegnell who is currently directing Swedish strategy), the first Chief Scientist of the...
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Venäjällä karkkaminen karanteenista on on tullut maan tavaksi, karkkavat myös t.h henkilökuntaan kuuluvian, niin kun UFAssa karkasi sairaalasta 8 t.h. kuuluva.
Mutta mitä Venäjällä touhutaan verenplasman kanssa ? Covidiin jo sairastuneiden veren plasman COVREC jossa vastanaineet otetaan ja käytetään uudestaan - luovuttaja jokaisesta 150 ml plasmaa saa 1250 ruplaa. Kerralla voi ottaa ei alle 300 eikä yli 600 (+/-10%)

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"We have the first serological studies and unfortunately they are not encouraging. In the areas most affected by the epidemic we see that immunity is around 10 percent. From what I know it is the same thing in Lombardy. It is much less than what we we waited, and we hoped. We are very far from a natural immunity in the population. But there is another problem ".

"This virus is very particular. We noticed that the lifespan of the protective antibodies against Covid-19 is very short. And we see more and more cases of recurrence in people who have already had a first infection."
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Jos tää pitää paikkansa niin me ollaan ihan kusessa tän taudin kans. Tästä tulee uus normaali pahimmillaan. Tuo 19 päivän immuniteetti on yllättävän lyhyt.
 
Ruotsalaiset uskovat laumasuojaan, he ovat saavuttaneet sen, kun tartunnan saaneita on noin...kymmenisen miljoonaa.
 
Löytyykö joku jostain kiinan tautikuolleisuuslukuja maaliskuun lopusta tähänpäivään? Google haku tuottaa pelkkää Tammikuu-Helmikuu tilastoa. Wikipediakin puhuu vain tammikuun ja helmikuun tilastoista. Lopettivatko he ilmoittamisen vai mikä on?
 
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Ruotsalaiset uskovat laumasuojaan, he ovat saavuttaneet sen, kun tartunnan saaneita on noin...kymmenisen miljoonaa.
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Ja minä kun ihmetellyt mistä ne Marjaniemien rannan arabi joukko ottanut mallia. Pyöräilessään eilen siellä näin kuulin kauhean huuton, joku huusi riivattuna arabin kieltä. Se paljastui invaliidituolissa (tai sen tapaisessa) istuvaksi mieheksi joka puhui (=huusi) puhelimessa.
Piknikilta näyttävä tapahtuma, oli täynnä muovikasseja, ja muuta tavara, joten hieraisin silmiä, onko tämä joku mustalaisten leiri vai mitä.
Naisilla ei ollut kaapuja, ne kaikki istuneet maassa, mutta miehen huudot oli arabin kieltä. Joukossa olivat lapsetkin. Muita miehia ei ollut, tai en huomanut.
Heitä oli noin 15.
Paskat ne välitä mistään kokoontumisesta ja tuskin tämä säkki asunut samassa taloudessa.
 
Military veterans who served in Afghanistan and Iraq have drawn up a package of guidance and support to help NHS workers cope with the traumatic stress from treating patients on the frontline of the coronavirus crisis.

The advice has been drawn up by the Help for Heroes charity, initially for staff at the Nightingale emergency hospital that opened in east London this month, in the belief that NHS staff are experiencing levels of emotional intensity similar to that on the battlefield.

Carole Betteridge, a former navy nurse who ran a field hospital at Camp Bastion in Afghanistan, said the understanding of traumatic stress had changed dramatically over the past 20 years and lessons could be shared. She spent 26 years in the navy as a nurse and medical planner, and is now head of welfare and clinical services at Help for Heroes.

She said: “There are so many parallels I can see between the military experience and what NHS workers are having to deal with. This is a conflict situation and we have to make sure we care for the carers.”
Medical staff are being faced with daily life-or-death situations “far more than we did in Iraq or Afghanistan”, Betteridge said.

The most acute source of anxiety was the feeling that personal efforts had been insufficient, she said. “People in hospitals will want to be able to help everybody, to be able to save everybody, but sometimes that’s not possible, and it’s difficult to deal with. People always feel they could have done more.”

Military techniques that can help are based on clear communication at the time, a buddying up between experienced and inexperienced workers, and a proper rotation of responsibilities so certain carers are not overburdened.

Particularly important is trauma risk management, where a team who often may have have completed a 12-hour shift come together and reflect on a difficult day’s events.

Betteridge said: “You should talk about the good things and the things that didn’t go so well; discuss how you are dealing with things – and talk about your families and positive things.”

Rates of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) among military veterans have risen as the phenomenon is better understood. Research from King’s College highlighted by the charity Combat Stress suggest 17% of Iraq and Afghan veterans who served in combat developed PTSD, compared with 6% in support roles.

It can take years for problems to be formally acknowledged. Historically, on average it took 13 years after leaving the military. The figure dropped sharply to four years among Afghan veterans, as opening up about mental health problems has become more socially acceptable.

Betteridge said: “The experience of the veterans is that you can’t go through that kind of conflict experience without it having some effect. The good thing is we understand these situations better now, we can sort of plan for it. I think that will lessen the effect.”

Help for Heroes was called in to help produce the material by Prof James Calder, a clinical lead at the NHS Nightingale in London, recognising that the environment was similar to a military field hospital.
Unlike a normal NHS hospital, at the Nightingale at the ExCeL centre in London Docklands, and similar facilities around the country, volunteers who do not know each other are being thrown together in an emergency situation.

Betteridge said: “It’s always harder when you don’t know the people you are working with. Try and get to know them a bit when you start, introduce yourself when you put your PPE on, buddy up, and that will help you.”

At Camp Bastion, British military medics from all three branches of the armed forces worked alongside Americans, Estonians and Danes during Betteridge’s seven months in charge during 2011.

At NHS Nightingale, medics are being drawn from local hospitals, with volunteers from St John Ambulance assisting alongside them. Cabin crew and other airline staff from EasyJet and Virgin Atlantic are expected to provide assistance.

London’s Nightingale has been used relatively lightly so far, with only a few dozen patients, because trusts in the capital have been able to cope with the numbers of coronavirus cases. But NHS officials want to increase the number of patients treated there to help the health service gradually normalise when the outbreak eases.

The Help for Heroes materials, drawn up with the help of combat veterans, are also being published online so they can be made available to all NHS workers to complement existing mental health and support schemes.
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Military veterans help draft PTSD guidance for NHS workers

Measures aims to help staff deal with intense daily stress of treating coronavirus patients
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NHS sivuilla on vielä rivi missä ne sanoo PTSDn oireet menee ohi kuudessa kuukaudessa :ROFLMAO:

Donald Trump has been accused of using another White House coronavirus task force briefing to broadcast a “campaign ad” in which New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, one of his most trenchant critics, appeared to shower him with praise.

The US president dimmed the lights and played two selectively edited videos on screens behind the briefing room podium featuring Cuomo, whose state has been hardest hit by the deadly pandemic.

“What the federal government did, working with states ... was a phenomenal accomplishment,” the governor said in the first clip. “These were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilisation, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I’m the first to say it. We needed help and they were there.”

But the films were played just two days after Cuomo, who has emerged as one of the most prominent Democrats during the crisis, eviscerated Trump in scathing 15-minute remarks. “First of all, if he’s sitting home watching TV, maybe he should get up and go to work, right,” he told reporters on Friday. “Second, let’s keep emotion and politics out of this and personal ego if we can because this is about the people and our job and let’s try to focus on that.”
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Trump plays misleading clips of 'support' from Cuomo at coronavirus briefing

US president accused of going into campaign mode after showing selectively edited videos containing praise by one of his most trenchant critics
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The New York mayor, Bill de Blasio, has stepped up his campaign for increased federal funding for US cities during the coronavirus crisis, asking Donald Trump whether his administration was “going to save New York City or are you telling New York City to drop dead?”

De Blasio’s dramatic language came during his press conference on Sunday, after he warned last week that he planned to cut a further $2bn from the city’s municipal services budget due to the economic downturn. He said the city was likely to lose at least $7.4bn in tax revenue over the current and next fiscal year.

De Blasio has criticized the $2tn coronavirus relief package that Trump signed last month, saying New York only received $1.4bn from the stimulus, compared with around $58bn for the airline industry. He has called for the next package, which congressional and administration leaders say they are “close” to reaching a deal on, to include tens of billions for states, cities and municipalities.
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New York mayor De Blasio asks if Trump is telling city to 'drop dead' over Covid-19

Mayor of city at center of coronavirus outbreak says not enough is being done to help finances of areas struck by pandemic
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Epäilen Kushenerin olevan tämän takana. Hän haluaa ostaa coranan putsaamia taloja halvalla.

The Trump administration and Russia are blocking efforts to win binding UN security council backing for a global ceasefire to help fight the coronavirus pandemic, which has claimed more than 150,000 lives worldwide.

The UN secretary-general, António Guterres, called for an immediate end to fighting involving governments and armed groups in all conflict areas almost one month ago. “The fury of the virus illustrates the folly of war,” he said.

Yet despite strong support for a universal truce from dozens of countries, including leading US allies such as Britain, France and Germany, as well as human rights groups, charities and the pope, the Trump administration is refusing to be bound by the measure.

In an attempt to break the impasse, Emmanuel Macron, the French president, has proposed a draft security council resolution which attempts to overcome US and Russian objections by, in effect, making it impossible to enforce.

The resolution, as drafted, is understood to welcome the UN secretary-general’s appeal and express support for his efforts. But it does not insist on a binding, universal ceasefire, allowing exceptions to be made at the discretion of individual member states.
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US and Russia blocking UN plans for a global ceasefire amid crisis

Resolution has strong support from dozens of countries, human rights groups, charities, and the Pope
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Thaimaan uutisia:

Aikoina, jolloin hyvät neuvot ovat kalliita, kannattaa niihin turvautua. Niinpä pääministeri Prayut Chan-o-cha onkin kutsunut tällä viikolla koolle Thaimaan 20 rikkainta ihmistä keskustelemaan koronaviruksen torjunnasta.
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Toki Thaimaassa tarvitaan jatkuvasti kaikkien alojen osaamista ja osaajia, mutta lähteisiinsä nojaten Bangkok Post arvelee pääministerin tarvitsevan neuvoja etenkin sen suhteen, kuinka saada maan talouden pyörät jälleen pyörimään. Mitä rajoituksia pitäisi lieventää tai poistaa, missä aikataulussa jne?

20 miljardöörin lisäksi pääministeri aikoo keskustella myös pienyrittäjien kanssa perehtyäkseen heidän eri rajoituksista johtuviin ongelmiinsa ja ajatuksiinsa koronaviruksen torjunnassa.
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Chan-o-chan televisiopuhetta seuratessa tulikin paikka paikoin mieleen se kuutisen vuotta sitten vallan kaapannut kenraali, joka televisiopuheissaan puhui yhtä suoraan.

– Jos te ette halua nähdä tankkeja Bangkokin kaduilla, niin alkakaa käyttäytyä siten, ettei niitä tarvita, sanoi Chan-o-cha tuolloin.

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Pääministeri kutsuu koolle “Team Thailandin”

Aikoina, jolloin hyvät neuvot ovat kalliita, kannattaa niihin turvautua. Niinpä pääministeri Prayut Chan-o-cha onkin kutsunut tällä viikolla koolle Thaimaan 20 rikkainta ihmistä keskustelemaan koro…
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Onko rohtokiratasta apua Wuhanilaiseen? Aluksi se uutisoitiin fakenewsiksi, mutta uudet tutkimukset näyttivät hyviltä. Pubmedista en löytänyt Wuhanilaiseen liittyviä tutkimuksia, mutta aika paljon muita kylläkin.

Covid , 19 April. Dr. Pramote Sathirat, Deputy Director-General of the Department of Thai Traditional and Alternative Medicine The Ministry of Public Health (Ministry of Public Health) said about the progress of the research and development of Andrographis paniculata on the corona virus 2019. "Andrographis paniculata" has 4 important effects, which are 1. Stimulating immunity 2. Antiviral 3. Anti-inflammatory and 4. Antipyretic, which has been researched for a long time. However, 10 years ago when the SARS epidemic China has researched that it can resist the coronary virus.

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แสงที่ปลายอุโมงค์! ผลวิจัยชี้ชัด ฟ้าทะลายโจร ฆ่าไวรัส ได้โดยตรง - ข่าวสด

ผลวิจัยชี้ชัด ฟ้าทะลายโจร ฆ่าเชื้อไวรัส ได้โดยตรง และยับยั้งการเจริญเติบโต แต่ไม่ได้ช่วยป้องกันก่อนการติดเชื้อ กำลังวิจัยสารสกัดที่เหมาะต่อโดส
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Jos muistatte niin kysyin alussa miten saasteet vaikuttaa tämän sairauden kanssa. Nyt on vastauksia kysymykseen koko artikkelin ja tutkimuksen verran.

High levels of air pollution may be “one of the most important contributors” to deaths from Covid-19, according to research.

The analysis shows that of the coronavirus deaths across 66 administrative regions in Italy, Spain, France and Germany, 78% of them occurred in just five regions, and these were the most polluted.

The research examined levels of nitrogen dioxide, a pollutant produced mostly by diesel vehicles, and weather conditions that can prevent dirty air from dispersing away from a city. Many studies have linked NO2 exposure to health damage, and particularly lung disease, which could make people more likely to die if they contract Covid-19.

“The results indicate that long-term exposure to this pollutant may be one of the most important contributors to fatality caused by the Covid-19 virus in these regions and maybe across the whole world,” said Yaron Ogen, at Martin Luther University Halle-Wittenberg in Germany, who conducted the research. “Poisoning our environment means poisoning our own body, and when it experiences chronic respiratory stress its ability to defend itself from infections is limited.”
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Air pollution may be ‘key contributor’ to Covid-19 deaths – study

Research shows almost 80% of deaths across four countries were in most polluted regions
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Assessing nitrogen dioxide (NO2) levels as a contributing factor to coronavirus (COVID-19) fatality

Nitrogen dioxide (NO2) is an ambient trace-gas result of both natural and anthropogenic processes. Long-term exposure to NO2 may cause a wide spectrum…
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Lyhyesti. Saasteet edesauttaa keuhkovammojen muodostumisen ja niiden seurauksena keho ei pysty kamppailemaan samalla tavalla kuin saasteettomassa paikassa elävä hemmo. Tämäkin viittaa myös siihen että Kiinan numerot kusee tämän asian yhteydessä.
 
Russia has quarantined thousands of soldiers who took part in rehearsals for a Victory Day parade that appeared to flout physical distancing guidelines brought in to stem the country’s coronavirus outbreak.

The defence ministry said it would be sending the soldiers, estimated to number 15,000, back to their bases, where they would be put under a two-week quarantine. The ministry did not indicate that any of the soldiers had been infected with the coronavirus.

The announcement came days after Vladimir Putin postponed celebrations for Victory Day on 9 May, a significant holiday in Russia usually marked by a military parade in Red Square and events where Russians pay respects to victims and veterans of the second world war.

The Kremlin had been hesitant to postpone the 75th anniversary celebrations, which Putin had hoped to use to strengthen ties with foreign leaders, in particular the French president, Emmanuel Macron, who was expected to attend.
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BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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