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Samses
Ylipäällikkö
Jos Marsu ja Leo yhdistetään, mikäs ois sopiva nimi sille?
Ehdotan Gerbiiliä.
Recon4Life
Kapteeni
Jos Marsu ja Leo yhdistetään, mikäs ois sopiva nimi sille?
Tai kärppä.
Eikös Marksman ala olla menneen talven lumia? Mantishan taitaa olla tulossa tilalle?
hessukessu
Kenraali
Sitten pitäisi saada tuo sensori ja tykki samaan syssyyn. Eivät ne erillään paskaakaan auta ilmatorjuntapanssarivaunussa. Onko tämmöisiä systeemeitä? Mikä on tuon sensorisysteemin sirpalekestävyys btw.?
Kuten kaikissa vastaavissa sensoreissa, niin tiettyjä osia ei voida panssaroida. Muut osat saadaan kyllä suojattua asiakkaan toiveiden mukaan.
hessukessu
Kenraali
Onko esittää YHTÄÄN mallikappaletta, jossa nuo MANTISin systeemit on laitettu samalle liikkuvalle alustalle (mieluiten sellaiseen, joka voi ampua liikkeestä)? Jos ei, niin sitten pitää katsoa muualle.
John Hilly
Ylipäällikkö
"An NBS C-RAM system consists of six 35mm automatic guns (capable of firing 1,000 rounds per minute), a ground control unit and two sensor units. The entire system is fully automated. The guns fire programmable "Ahead" ammunition, developed by Rheinmetall Weapons and Munitions - Switzerland (formerly Oerlikon Contraves Pyrotec). The ammunition carries a payload of 152 tungsten projectiles weighing 3.3g each."
Elikkä tarvittaisiin 6 It-tykkivaunua, johtovaunu ja 1-2 sensorivaunua. Silloin meillä olisi kasassa It-panssarikomppania.
Elikkä tarvittaisiin 6 It-tykkivaunua, johtovaunu ja 1-2 sensorivaunua. Silloin meillä olisi kasassa It-panssarikomppania.
Raveni
Greatest Leader
Tässä mietin tuota mobiilia ilmatorjuntaa. Kuinka paljon sitä oikeasti tarvitaan siis nyt tarkoitan panssareiden sun muiden mukana kulkevaa... Jos panssareita siirrellään niin jotain on mennyt vikaan jos niitä siirretään niin että ovat avoimella paikalla keskellä peltoa. Jos niitä taas siirrellään piilossa niin sieltä on aika huono yhtään minkään ilmatorjunnan ampua. Tarkoitan sanoa että alue jossa vaunuilla operoidaan täytyy olla muutoinkin oman ilmasuojan alla. Silloin ei pitäisi olla merkitystä onko kaikki ilmatorjunnan jutut samalla lavetilla vai onko niistä tehty taistelunkestävämpiä sijoittamalla aseet ja sensorit eri alustalle. Tällöin molemmat voisivat olla optimi paikassa. Tutka sijoitettuna niin että näkee mahdollisimman laajan alueen ja aseet niin että saavat suojattua sen piste kohteen optimaalisesti. Siitä tutkasta ei ole mitään iloa keskellä metsää tai aseista kukkalan väärällä puolella. Nykyään on kuitenkin mahdollista siirtää sitä dataakin langattomasti ja suojatusti. Häirinnänkin täytyisi olla voimakasta ja lähellä yksiköitä kun noita ei kuitenkaan ole tarkoitus levittää useiden kilometrien säteelle. Nyt puhun siis skyshieldin tapaisista järjestelmistä.
Raveni
Greatest Leader
Onko tuo tutka tuossa vehkeessä kiinni vai takana jossain toisessa? Jotenkin pistää silmään erillainen väritys? Olisi luullut että väritys olisi sama...
Recon4Life
Kapteeni
Eikä se ole tuossa päällä? En tiedä varmaksi. Sen vuoksi olin hieman kysyvästi liikkeellä.
Raveni
Greatest Leader
Raveni
Greatest Leader
Mites tällainen:
http://army-guide.com/eng/product4507.html
OTO Melara Draco air defence turret, shown on a Centauro 8x8 chassis (it will fit on other chassis weighing at least 15 tons). In adapting the firm's 76 mm automatic naval gun to AFVs, this is similar to the much bigger and heavier OTOmatic of the 1980s which needed a tank chassis to take the weight. Draco uses a new mechanism which saves a lot of weight, plus a more compact onboard radar and FCS.
The DRACO is a remotely operated weapon station with multi-purpose role against Air, R.A.M. and Surface targets, with high performance direct or indirect fire.
The weapon station is installable on 8x8 wheeled platforms, for combat support operations or convoy defence, or on shelterfor point defence. The main armament consists of a 76mm/62 gun with an automatic ammunition loading system, electrically controlled for elevation and traversing, stabilized in elevation, with high rate offire. The main armament and the automatic loading system are fully compatible with all in service 76mm rounds and also with 76 mm DART guided ammunition.
The ammunition loading system is based on a drum, in oscillating mass, with 12 ready-to-fire rounds. The 12 rounds can be of different types and ammunition's selection can be performed during firing. The drum can be reloaded automatically, from a magazine in the back of the turret. The Weapon station turret is fitted for receiving a secondary armament composed by a 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm machine gun coaxially mounted. A Day/Night Electro-optical Sight System, equipped
with telemetric laser (LRF), is installed in 2 different versions:
The DRACO can be completely controlled by two Operators (the Commander and the Gunner) from a remote position, inside the hull for mobile installation or inside a protected command shelter for fixed installation. The Commander, has the main roles of detection, identification and designation of the target. The Gunner has the role of engaging the target and control firing.
The basic Ballistic Protection of the system is a base level II according to STANAG 4569 and can be upgraded up to level V according to customer requirements.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/draco.htm
Modern SPAAGs are usually fitted with 20-40 mm guns. Such a powerful gun was selected because of it's long range. Maximum range of fire is 6-8 km. Such range is similar of the current hybrid gun-missile air defense systems. The Draco can engage helicopters before they release their anti-tank guided weapons.
The previous Otomatic turret was much heavier and needed a tank chassis. Weight of the Draco turret was significantly reduced due to improvements in electronics over the last two decades. It also uses more compact onboard radar.
Secondary armament consists of a single coaxial 7.62-mm or 12.7-mm machine gun.
The Draco SPAAG is intended to engage air targets, such as helicopters, aircraft, UAV and air-launched weapons. Also it can be used against ground targets. This air defense weapon can be used for combat support operations, convoy's defense or point defense. Also it can be used for coastal defense. Maximum firing range against naval targets is 20 km.
http://army-guide.com/eng/product4507.html
OTO Melara Draco air defence turret, shown on a Centauro 8x8 chassis (it will fit on other chassis weighing at least 15 tons). In adapting the firm's 76 mm automatic naval gun to AFVs, this is similar to the much bigger and heavier OTOmatic of the 1980s which needed a tank chassis to take the weight. Draco uses a new mechanism which saves a lot of weight, plus a more compact onboard radar and FCS.
The DRACO is a remotely operated weapon station with multi-purpose role against Air, R.A.M. and Surface targets, with high performance direct or indirect fire.
The weapon station is installable on 8x8 wheeled platforms, for combat support operations or convoy defence, or on shelterfor point defence. The main armament consists of a 76mm/62 gun with an automatic ammunition loading system, electrically controlled for elevation and traversing, stabilized in elevation, with high rate offire. The main armament and the automatic loading system are fully compatible with all in service 76mm rounds and also with 76 mm DART guided ammunition.
The ammunition loading system is based on a drum, in oscillating mass, with 12 ready-to-fire rounds. The 12 rounds can be of different types and ammunition's selection can be performed during firing. The drum can be reloaded automatically, from a magazine in the back of the turret. The Weapon station turret is fitted for receiving a secondary armament composed by a 7.62 mm or 12.7 mm machine gun coaxially mounted. A Day/Night Electro-optical Sight System, equipped
with telemetric laser (LRF), is installed in 2 different versions:
- For mobile applications, compact stabilized sight to allow fighting while moving
- For point defence application, long distance sight, for detection and identification, with high rate laser to follow small and rapid targets.
The DRACO can be completely controlled by two Operators (the Commander and the Gunner) from a remote position, inside the hull for mobile installation or inside a protected command shelter for fixed installation. The Commander, has the main roles of detection, identification and designation of the target. The Gunner has the role of engaging the target and control firing.
The basic Ballistic Protection of the system is a base level II according to STANAG 4569 and can be upgraded up to level V according to customer requirements.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/draco.htm
Modern SPAAGs are usually fitted with 20-40 mm guns. Such a powerful gun was selected because of it's long range. Maximum range of fire is 6-8 km. Such range is similar of the current hybrid gun-missile air defense systems. The Draco can engage helicopters before they release their anti-tank guided weapons.
The previous Otomatic turret was much heavier and needed a tank chassis. Weight of the Draco turret was significantly reduced due to improvements in electronics over the last two decades. It also uses more compact onboard radar.
Secondary armament consists of a single coaxial 7.62-mm or 12.7-mm machine gun.
The Draco SPAAG is intended to engage air targets, such as helicopters, aircraft, UAV and air-launched weapons. Also it can be used against ground targets. This air defense weapon can be used for combat support operations, convoy's defense or point defense. Also it can be used for coastal defense. Maximum firing range against naval targets is 20 km.
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Recon4Life
Kapteeni
Entäs tästä? Googlaa "Boxer Sysfla".
Näyttää hyvältä. Muuta en osaa kyllä sanoa.
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