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Navy will challenge Chinese territorial claims in South China Sea
By David Larter, Staff writer11:05 a.m. EDT October 8, 2015

http://www.navytimes.com/story/mili...island-dispute-south-china-sea-navy/73525862/

http://www.scout.com/military/warrior/story/1598509-us-ships-to-sail-by-disputed-chinese-islands

The Navy is preparing to send a surface ship inside the12-nautical-mile territorial limit China claims for its man-made island chain, an action that could take place within days but awaits final approval from the Obama administration, according to military officials who spoke to Navy Times.

Plans to send a warship through the contested space have been rumored since May, but three Pentagon officials who spoke to Navy Times on background to discuss future operations say Navy officials believe approval of the mission is imminent.

If approved, it would be the first time since 2012 that the U.S. Navy has directly challenged China's claims to the islands' territorial limits.

The land reclamation projects in the vicinity of the Spratly Islands have been the focus of increasing tensions between China and the United States along with its regional allies, including the Philippines, since reports of the land reclamation project began surfacing in 2013. However, the U.S. and other nations have disputed the legitimacy of the islands built by China in what is viewed as an act of regional aggression.

A spokesman for the National Security Council deferred questions regarding the Navy's plans to the Office of the Secretary of Defense, but drew attention to President Obama's remarks before the U.N. General Assembly Sept. 28, where he said the U.S. has "an interest in upholding the basic principles of freedom of navigation and the free flow of commerce, and in resolving disputes through international law, not the law of force."

OSD spokesman Cmdr. Bill Urban declined to comment on future operations, but referred to Defense Secretary Ash Carter's comments from Sept. 1, when he said that the "United States will fly, sail, and operate wherever international law allows, as we do all around the world."

The news of the pending maneuver comes just a day after Pacific Fleet boss Adm. Scott Swift told a maritime conference in Australia that "some nations" were behaving in a manner inconsistent with international law, a clear reference to the ongoing dispute with China.

"It's my sense that some nations view freedom of the seas as up for grabs, as something that can be taken down and redefined by domestic law or by reinterpreting international law," Swift said, according to a report by Reuters. "Some nations continue to impose superfluous warnings and restrictions on freedom of the seas in their exclusive economic zones and claim territorial water rights that are inconsistent with (the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea). This trend is particularly egregious in contested waters."

were planning a tougher stance in the South China Sea, including stepped up freedom of navigation patrols with ships and aircraft in the vicinity of the islands.

Bryan Clark, a retired submarine officer and analyst with the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments, said that passage through territorial waters is a routine Navy operation typically used to build a legal case under international law for freedom of navigation in international waters, and right of innocent passage within territorial waters.

Innocent passage, the right of a state to pass through the territorial waters of another, is usually conducted with little fanfare. But what makes the planned passage through China's newly claimed territorial waters significant is that the administration had previously prohibited the Navy from doing it in the Spratly Islands, Clark said.

"If you act like they have a legal 12-mile limit, even though the U.S. has said it doesn't recognize it, you are tacitly acknowledging those claims as legitimate," Clark said, adding that even if the claims were legitimate, the U.S. would have the right to pass through under the right of innocent passage.

The Chinese government claimed the same right when its navy's ships passed within 12 nautical miles of the U.S.-held Aleutian Islands off Alaska In September, after a joint exercise with the Russian military.

The U.S. and China's neighbors in the region are concerned that China is creating military installations on the islands. In June, images surfaced of a nearly complete 10,000-foot-long airstrip on one of the islands, big enough to accommodate military aircraft.

China claims nearly all of the South China Sea, a position that has put it at loggerheads with its neighbors and prompted countries in the region, including erstwhile enemies such as Vietnam, to turn to the U.S. to offset the newly aggressive China.

China's actions have also prompted renewed military-to-military relations with the Philippines, more than two decades after the U.S. was kicked out of the country following a wave of anti-American sentiment inside the former U.S. colony.

An agreement signed last year that allows U.S. forces to use Philippine military facilities has been a signature accomplishment in the Obama administration's strategic pivot to Asia.
 
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Navy will challenge Chinese territorial claims in South China Sea

Beijing warned Thursday that it would "firmly oppose" infringement of its sovereignty after indications Washington will soon send warships close to its artificial islands in the South China Sea.

Tensions have mounted since China transformed reefs in the area -- also claimed by several neighbouring countries -- into small islands capable of supporting military facilities, a move that the US says threatens freedom of navigation.

Senior officials in Washington have signalled that the US military could sail close by the islands in the coming days or weeks to demonstrate that Washington does not recognise a Chinese claim to territorial waters around them.

Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying said that the country respected freedom of navigation and overflight in the South China Sea, but would "firmly oppose infringement of sovereignty under that pretext".

Beijing insists it has sovereign rights to nearly all of the South China Sea, even waters close to the coasts of other states.

The sea is a strategically vital waterway with shipping lanes through which about a third of all the world's traded oil passes, and the dispute has raised fears of clashes.

Hua's comments came after US Defense Secretary Ash Carter warned Beijing following a meeting of American and Australian officials Tuesday that Washington will continue to send its military "wherever international law allows", including the South China Sea.

Australia is a key Pacific ally of the US and its foreign minister Julie Bishop said the two countries were "on the same page" on the issue.

An editorial in the Global Times, which is close to China's ruling Communist party, condemned Washington's "ceaseless provocations and coercion".

"China mustn't tolerate rampant US violations of China's adjacent waters and the skies over those expanding islands," it said, adding that its military should "be ready to launch countermeasures according to Washington's level of provocation".

Coming within 12 nautical miles of the islands could be a "breach of China's bottom line", the paper said, warning: "If the US encroaches on China's core interests, the Chinese military will stand up and use force to stop it."
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Beijing_warns_against_US_South_China_Sea_move_999.html
 
Rupeaa kuumenemaan tämäkin konflikti taas kertaalleen. En usko, että Kiina rupeaa vetäytymään minnekkään.
 
Rupeaa kuumenemaan tämäkin konflikti taas kertaalleen. En usko, että Kiina rupeaa vetäytymään minnekkään.


Ei todellakaan...Globaalissa kattillassa soppa senkuin kuumenee..ja luultavasti "kärähtää pohjaan" yhtäkkiä kuin maitoa lämmittäessä...
 
luultavasti "kärähtää pohjaan" yhtäkkiä kuin maitoa lämmittäessä...

No maailmassa ei ole ollut kunnon laivastomätkytystä sitten toisen maailmansodan. Ei ainakaan minulle tule mieleen. Huomatkaa toki että en laske falklandin sotaa sellaisena kun se oli niin pieni konflikti loppujen lopuksi. Kiina vs ? ei varmaan jää siihen tasalle missään vaiheessa.
 
Olin väärässä. Mielenkiintoista että sama paikka ja PLAn laivasto osallisena.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands
 
Beijing sought to soothe tensions over its South China Sea claims Saturday, saying it will avoid the use of force in the region as the US ponders sending warships close to territory claimed by the Asian giant.

Speaking at the Xiangshan regional defence forum in Beijing, Fan Changlong, vice-chair of China's Central Military Commission, pledged that the country would "never recklessly resort to the use of force, even on issues bearing on sovereignty".

"We have done our utmost to avoid unexpected conflicts," he added.

The US says that China's transformation of South China Sea reefs into artificial islands capable of hosting military facilities presents a threat to freedom of navigation, and defence officials have hinted they may soon use naval forces to test Chinese claims.

But Fan said that the projects were mainly intended for civilian use and "will not affect freedom of navigation in the South China Sea".

"Instead, they will enable us to provide better public services to aid navigation and production in the South China Sea."

The argument is one Beijing has made many times before, but satellite images of the islands published by the US think-tank Center for Strategic and International Studies have shown as many as three runways on the islands that could accommodate fighter jets, raising concerns about China's true intentions.

Speaking in Washington this week, Pentagon chief Ashton Carter said the US would continue to sail wherever international law allowed.

While no American officials spoke at the event, the country's retired Chief of Naval Operations Gary Roughead used his time on a morning panel to take China to task for its behaviour.

"The rapid expansion of land features in the vital sea lanes of the South China Sea heightens suspicion and presents the potential for miscalculation," he said.

The construction, he added, "raises legitimate questions regarding militarisation".

"I do not see an influx of tourists clamouring to visit these remote islands," he said.
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Beijing_tries_to_soothe_South_China_Sea_jitters_999.html
 
India, the United States and Japan on Monday wrapped up six days of naval exercises, reflecting closer military ties that are seen as a counterweight to growing Chinese influence in the region.

It is the second consecutive year Japan's Maritime Self-Defence Force (MSDF) has taken part in the Malabar Exercise, conducted annually by the US and India off the Andamans archipelago in the Bay of Bengal.

India's defence ministry said the October 14-19 drills were "part of the process of enhancing naval cooperation among important navies of Indo-Pacific regions".
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/India_US_hold_naval_exercise_with_Japan_as_ties_grow_999.html
 
Onko kukaa tutkinu näitä vaateiden taustaa eri tahojen osalta? Hetken aikaa yritin kattella, mutta näyttää olevan äärettömän sekavaa. Jännäksi tekee se, että Taiwanilla ja Kiinalla taitaa olla samat vaatimukset, kumpiki kun pitää itseään oikeana kiinana.

Etelä kiinan meri näyttää ainakin sekavalta tapaukselta.
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Senkakun tapauksessa
"Territorial sovereignty over the islands and the maritime boundaries around them are disputed between the People's Republic of China, the Republic of China (Taiwan), and Japan.
The People's Republic and Taiwan claim that the islands have been a part of Chinese territory since at least 1534. They acknowledge that Japan took control of the islands in 1894–1895 during the first Sino-Japanese War, through the signature of the Treaty of Shimonoseki. They assert that the Potsdam Declaration (which Japan accepted as part of the San Francisco Peace Treaty) required that Japan relinquish control of all islands except for "the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine", and they state that this means control of the islands should pass to China.
Japan does not accept that there is a dispute, asserting that the islands are an integral part of Japan. Japan has rejected claims that the islands were under China's control prior to 1895, and that these islands were contemplated by the Potsdam Declaration or affected by the San Francisco Peace Treaty "
 
Lyhyt kertaus linkin takana, jonka lopusta nostan USAn mahdollisen aktiivisemman liittymisen mukaan tilanteeseen, jopa vahingossa:
"Filippiinit ilmoitti kesällä, että se avaa uudelleen alueellaan sijaitsevan Yhdysvaltojen vanhan Subic Bayn sotilastukikohdan vuoden 2016 aikana. Aikoinaan suurin Yhdysvaltojen laivastotukikohta suljettiin vuonna 1992 kylmän sodan päättyessä. Subic Bayn tukikohdan uudelleenaktivointi auttaisi Filippiinien puolustusvoimia reagoimaan Kiinan liikkeisiin alueella entistä nopeammin, sillä tukikohta sijaitsee noin kolmensadan kilometrin päässä kiistellystä Spratlyn saarista. Filippiinien puolustusvoimien mukaan tukikohtaan tullaan sijoittamaan mm. kaksi Etelä-Koreasta ostettua hävittäjää.
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Vaikka Kiinan projektit rakentaa tekosaaria humanitaarisiin syihin vedoten ovat tulossa virallisesti päätökseen, on maa toiminnallaan voimistanut Yhdysvaltojen kiinnostusta alueen konfliktia kohtaan. Sota-alusten lähettäminen liian lähelle saaria saattaakin tehdä Yhdysvalloista kiinteän osan aluekiistaa."
http://www.verkkouutiset.fi/ulkomaat/south china sea-42399
 
Yhdysvaltain sotalaiva on purjehtinut tiistaina lähelle Kiinan rakentamia keinotekoisia saaria Etelä-Kiinan merellä. Aluksen saapuminen alueelle ärsyttää Kiinaa.

USS Lassen -niminen hävittäjä kulki alle 12 merimailin päästä vähintään yhdestä maamuodostelmasta, joita Kiina pitää ominaan kiistellyillä Spratly-saarilla.

Kiina varoitti Yhdysvaltoja

Kiina valvoo ja seuraa USS Lassenin liikkeitä. Kiinan ulkoministeriön mukaan alus on tunkeutunut "laittomasti" Kiinan aluevesille.

– Kiina kehottaa vahvasti Yhdysvaltoja huomioimaan Kiinan vastalauseet, korjaamaan välittömästi virheensä ja välttämään kaikkia vaarallisia tai provosoivia tekoja, jotka uhkaavat Kiinan suvereniteettiä ja turvallisuusetuja, ministeriö kirjoitti verkkosivuillaan.

Kansainvälisen oikeuden mukaan valtion aluevedet ylettyvät 12 merimailin päähän sen rannoista. Yhdysvaltojen mielestä tämä sääntö ei kuitenkaan koske keinotekoisia saaria.

– Me suoritamme kansainvälisen oikeuden mukaisia rutiinioperaatioita Etelä-Kiinan merellä. Me lennämme, purjehdimme ja toimimme kaikkialla maailmassa, missä kansainvälinen oikeus sallii, nimettömänä esiintyvä Yhdysvaltojen sotilasviranomainen sanoi uutistoimisto AFP:lle.

Tilanne jännitteinen Etelä-Kiinan merellä

Yhdysvaltalaisaluksen purjehdusta pidetään huomattavana kärjistymisenä kiistassa strategisesti tärkeästä Etelä-Kiinan merestä.

Kiinan mielestä lähes koko alue kuuluu sille. Useat muut Etelä-Kiinan meren alueen maat vaativat myös osia alueesta itselleen.

Jännitteet Etelä-Kiinan merellä ovat kasvaneet, kun Kiina on rakentanut sotilaskaluston sijoittamiseen sopivia keinotekoisia saaria vedenalaisten riuttojen päälle.
http://yle.fi/uutiset/yhdysvaltojen..._kiina_vaatii_valttamaan_provosointia/8410175
 
China is not afraid of fighting a war against the United States in the South China Sea, a state-run newspaper with links to the Communist party has claimed.

Twenty-four hours after Washington challenged Beijing’s territorial claims in the region by deploying a warship to waters around the disputed Spratly archipelago, the notoriously nationalistic Global Times accused the Pentagon of provoking China.

“In [the] face of the US harassment, Beijing should deal with Washington tactfully and prepare for the worst,” the newspaper argued in an editorial on Wednesday.

“This can convince the White House that China, despite its unwillingness, is not frightened to fight a war with the US in the region, and is determined to safeguard its national interests and dignity.”

The People’s Liberation Army Daily, China’s leading military newspaper, used a front-page editorial to accuse the US of sowing chaos in countries such as Afghanistan and Iraq.

“Cast-iron facts show that time and again the United States recklessly uses force and starts wars, stirring things up where once there was stability, causing the bitterest of harm to those countries directly involved,” the newspaper said, according to Reuters.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ightened-fight-war-south-china-sea-uss-lassen
 
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