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[Geronimo]

EU ja eurooppa on riisunut itsensä aseista unelmoidessaan ikuisesta rauhasta ja yrittää nyt kasata rippeistä jotain vastusta Venäjälle mutta Tyynellämerellä on valmistauduttu puolin ja toisin yhteenottoon jo pitkään. USA eikä muut maat joita Kiina painostaa, tule Kiinalle periksi antamaan, joten on vain ajan kysymys milloin leimahtaa...ellei siiten Kiina peräänny, mikä vaikuttaa myös epätodennäköiseltä vaihtoehdolta eli kysymys onkin siitä milloin yhteenotto tapahtuu...?

Kiinalla on ihan samankaltainen retoriikka kuin Venäjällä Gerogian ja Ukrainan sekä Krimin valtauksen kanssa.

Kun on joku tarpeeksi härski niin sellaista ei puheilla eikä neuvotteluilla pysäytetä...

EU antaa rahaa ja esittää kauniin toiveen voisitko jos siitä ei ole liikaa vaivaa vetää joukkosi pois ja varmuuden vuoksi olemme riisuneet kansan aseista ja lopettaneet armeijamme ettei vaan kriisi eskaloidu

 

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Busier but smaller than ever, the Air Force needs higher bonuses and more family time to help compete with commercial airlines and the economy.

In our time in various leadership positions at the Pentagon, we’ve learned many important lessons. One of those might not seem so obvious: What is good for the U.S. economy sometimes creates very real challenges for our all-volunteer military. Low unemployment and hiring booms, while beneficial to the country, often make it very difficult for the armed services to recruit and retain talent.

A case in point is the growing shortage of fighter pilots. That shortfall is expected to grow from 500 to more than 700 pilots by the end of this fiscal year, a 21-percent gap between what we have and what we need to meet the requirements of our commanders around the world. It is a significant deficit and one that has gotten our closest attention. And the Air Force is not alone. The Navy and Marine Corps are facing parallel challenges as the commercial airline industry embarks on a prolonged hiring wave fueled by many of its senior pilots hitting mandatory retirement age. Add to that a recent change in requirements that new commercial airline pilots have 1,500 flight hours under their belts, and suddenly military-trained pilots become even more attractive than usual.

http://www.defenseone.com/ideas/201...-fighter-pilots-our-plan/129907/?oref=d-river

Pitäisiköhän heidän katsoa ensin sinne drone koppeihin ennenkuin rupeavat uusia kouluttamaan? 700 hävittäjälentäjää pankkivuoden loppuun mennessä voi olla aika saavuttamaton teko jos rahaa ei ole. Ja jos kiina pamahtaa päälle, niin pistääkö jenkit kutsunnat päälle?

The current annual bonus offered to pilots of manned aircraft – $25,000 per year – has not changed since 1999 and its value has been impacted by inflation. We know from past experience that money isn’t everything, but in those military career fields lured by private sector offers, targeted bonuses can make the difference between staying or going. Right now, too few of our pilots are taking the bonus money and the “take rate” is especially low for those men and women who fly fighter aircraft.

Ei kyllä rikkaaksi ruveta hävittäjälentäjän tienesteillä.

 

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Australia has been issued with an unusually blunt warning from China — stay out of the South China Sea or risk damage to bilateral relations.

China's Foreign Ministry has said it was shocked by remarks Foreign Minister Julie Bishop made on AM on Wednesday, that China should abide by the UN ruling and Australia would continue freedom of navigation exercises.

China has called the UN tribunal that ruled it has no claim over the South China Sea a farce, an American conspiracy and the ruling a piece of waste paper.

Now it has turned its fiery rhetoric and threats towards Australia and Ms Bishop.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-15/china-tells-australia-stay-out-of-the-south-china-sea/7631492

 

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According to the state-run Global Times, the CNNC wrote on a social media account: “Marine nuclear power platform construction will be used to support China’s effective control in the South China Sea.”
The power plants would be created to “ensure freshwater” supplies on the Spratly islands, the CNNC added.

“In the past, the freshwater provision to troops stationed in the South China Sea could not be guaranteed, and could only be provided by boats delivering barrels of water,” the CNNC said.

“In the future, as the South China Sea electricity and power system is strengthened, China will speed up the commercial development of the South China Sea region.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...power-philippines-vietnam-japan-a7139421.html

The comments by Abe and Tusk on Saturday followed a blitz of meetings between the Japanese leader and officials from around the region, including his Vietnamese counterpart Nguyen Xuan Phuc and Philippine Foreign Secretary Perfecto Yasay, on the summit sidelines as he sought to build consensus on the issue.

Both countries have competing claims with Beijing in the strategically vital South China Sea, where tensions have mounted over the Asian giant's construction of artificial islands capable of supporting military operations and its claims on the region's marine resources.

Manila, which brought the PCA case, has promised not to "taunt or flaunt" the verdict.

But Japanese foreign ministry spokesman Yasuhisa Kawamura told AFP that in his meeting with Abe, Yasay agreed to "closely cooperate" at upcoming ASEAN-related conferences to ensure that the "parties to the dispute comply with the final award of the tribunal".

Leaders of the Southeast Asian grouping have so far failed to issue a statement on the ruling, reportedly due to objections from member states with close ties to China.

In Abe's meeting with Phuc, the two leaders agreed that the tribunal's ruling should be observed, and Abe offered to increase cooperation on building Vietnam's maritime law enforcement capabilities, Kawamura said.

Abe also brought his argument directly to Chinese Premier Li Keqiang during a heated 30-minute meeting Friday.

Kawamura described the exchange as "frank and candid" and Chinese state media accounts described the Chinese leader telling Abe that Japan should "stop hyping up and interfering" in the dispute.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/af...-pressure-Beijing-South-China-Sea-ruling.html

BRUSSELS—The European Union’s foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini on Friday issued a statement on behalf of the bloc on Tuesday’s international panel ruling on the South China Sea, after the bloc’s 28 member states failed to agree a common stance on the issue.

The bloc’s governments have been arguing for the past 72 hours over how to react after the tribunal at the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled overwhelmingly in favor of the Philippines and against China, over claims to the South China Sea.

Three member states—Croatia, Hungary and Greece—repeatedly blocked a statement from the 28 member states on the ruling. Concerns about recognizing the decision of the international panel and worries about hurting economic ties with China both played into the debate, according to diplomats involved in discussions.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/eu-issu...ter-failing-to-agree-common-stance-1468583961

 

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Scores of activists have been detained in Vietnam's capital as they gathered to protest against China who rejected last week's ruling dismissing its claims to much of the South China Sea.

Anti-Chinese sentiment runs deep in communist Vietnam, but the country's authoritarian rulers move swiftly to tamp down expressions of public anger, fearful that allowing such protests might embolden criticism of their rule.

Activists had used social media to call for protests in Hanoi on Sunday in the wake of this week's ruling by the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague which found there was no legal basis for Beijing's claims to vast swathes of the South China Sea.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-17/vietnam-detains-activists-after-south-china-sea-ruling/7636228

For Vietnam, this is a strategic and an emotional victory, but not an unqualified one. The attitude in Vietnam over territorial claims is as strong as in China, and similar to Hayton’s reading of China, public sentiment is fueled by a strong sense of grievance, both over direct issues of sovereignty and China’s calculated provocations, along with a feeling of historical grievance against China for 1,000 years of occupation.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/helen_clark/vietnam-south-china-sea-ruling_b_11022864.html

 

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Adm. John Richardson, chief of naval operations, will meet the commander of the People’s Liberation Army’s Navy, Adm. Wu Shengli, during his trip to the Chinese capital of Beijing and the port city of Qingdao… Richardson is scheduled to visit the Chinese navy’s headquarters in Beijing and meet with other senior defense officials. He will visit the navy’s submarine academy and tour the aircraft carrier, Liaoning, when he is in its home port of Qingdao. They will discuss the South China Sea, ongoing Rim of the Pacific, or RIMPAC, military drills, and ways to boost interactions between the two militaries.”

Get to better know the ins and outs of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea—and how China says the U.S. is playing a double game by not ratifying the treaty while simultaneously insisting Beijing abide by the recent UNCLOS-associated ruling from The Hague on contested islands in the South China Sea. That take via Stars and Stripes, here.

U.S. Vice President Joe Biden just held a mini-pep rally on the USS John C. Stennis near Hawaii. “In the wake of this week’s arbitral tribunal ruling on the South China Sea, it’s essential that we continue to express our mutual support for the rule of law,” Biden said. “You are either going to abide by international standards or not. Don’t pretend.”

And now for your more typical Biden remark: “Some of you pilots have heard threats and warnings as you fly through unofficially but nonetheless a declared Chinese air defense space. And you said, ‘Like hell. This is open space. This is all of our air space.’” Biden is off to Australia and New Zealand in the coming days to talk security and cooperation,

http://www.defenseone.com/news/2016/07/the-d-brief-july-15-2016/129935/?oref=d-river

 

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CHINA is closing off a part of the South China Sea for military exercises this week, days after an international tribunal ruled against Beijing’s claim to ownership of virtually the entire strategic waterway.

Hainan’s maritime administration said an area southeast of the island province would be closed from Monday to Thursday, but gave no details about the nature of the exercises. The navy and Defense Ministry had no immediate comment

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/c...s/news-story/6d3fbf7dddda44526d39dcdc2513511c

 

[John Hilly]

http://www.news.com.au/world/asia/c...s/news-story/6d3fbf7dddda44526d39dcdc2513511c

Takuulla jenkkien tiedustelu on hereillä tämän harjoituksen liepeillä.

 

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PLA Navy conducted live ammunition combat training in the South China Sea on July 12.

http://en.people.cn/n3/2016/0715/c90000-9086580.html

 

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The problem with both drills is the “entering prohibited” part. China has every right to conduct military drills. But it doesn’t have a right to cordon off the high seas, even in its own exclusive economic zone (EEZ), as per the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the main treaty of international maritime law.

China signed the treaty in 1996, but Beijing’s response to the international tribunal’s ruling, and its military exercises in the area, suggest it has no intention of complying with it.

Beijing has also flexed its muscle in the air following the ruling. A few days after the ruling, it released photos of a nuclear-capable bomber flying over Scarborough Shoal (called Huangyan Island in China), which lies about 200 km (124 m) west of the Philippines’ Subic Bay.

The bomber flew over the Philippines’ EEZ—clearly, since all of Scarborough Shoal falls within that zone. Yet in China’s own coastal EEZ, the Chinese military routinely harasses foreign military aircraft (pdf, p. 17) operating there.

http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...onal-law-south-china-sea/129996/?oref=d-river

 

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China has threatened “retaliatory measures” against New Zealand trade, warning it will slow the flow of dairy, wool and kiwifruit imports.

The world’s biggest trading nation is angry at New Zealand inquiries into a glut of Chinese steel imports flooding the market; the Chinese believe New Zealand is part of a US-led alliance to target Chinese national interests.

The behind-the-scenes threat comes just days before the arrival of US Vice President Joe Biden in New Zealand, forcing government and commerce officials to scramble to open urgent talks with China. New Zealand is angry that China should take such a combative approach, and is asking that it desist.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/far...-back-off-cheap-steel-inquiry?cid=app-android

Speaking behind closed doors at a forum in Beijing on Saturday evening, Sun Jianguo, an admiral and deputy chief of the Joint Staff Department of the powerful Central Military Commission, said the freedom of navigation issue was bogus and one that certain countries repeatedly hyped up.

"When has freedom of navigation in the South China Sea ever been affected? It has not, whether in the past or now, and in the future there won't be a problem as long as nobody plays tricks," he said, according to a transcript of his comments seen by Reuters on Monday.

China is the biggest beneficiary of freedom of navigation in the South China Sea and won't let anybody damage it, Sun said.

"But China consistently opposes so-called military freedom of navigation, which brings with it a military threat and which challenges and disrespects the international law of the sea," Sun said.

"This kind of military freedom of navigation is damaging to freedom of navigation in the South China Sea, and it could even play out in a disastrous way," he added, without elaborating.

A U.S. Defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the United States reserved the right to carry out freedom of navigation operations and the Chinese admiral's comments would not change that.

Sun also said the court case at The Hague must be used by China's armed forces to improve its capabilities "so that when push comes to shove, the military can play a decisive role in the last moment to defend our national sovereignty and interests".

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southchinasea-ruling-idUSKCN0ZY0FJ

 

[Marakatti]

Sori tyhmä kysymys mut olen tietämätön. Mutta kysyisin et mikä on toi vaunu mikä ui tuossa ylempänä kuvissa ? Mallia siis kyselisin Kiitos vastauksesta jos sellainen tulee

 

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Mutta kysyisin et mikä on toi vaunu mikä ui tuossa ylempänä kuvissa ?

ZBD2000

 

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silkkaa propagandaa vai silaus kiinan informaatiosodankäyntiä?

 

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Lainaus RTltä

Washington’s announcement it will continue its operations in the South China Sea has drawn a sharp response from China. Beijing has warned such “intervention” may not be a good idea, naming conflicts in the Middle East as examples.

"Western countries have a long history of failing to establish orderly rule over parts of the world. The Middle East is a classic example," Chinese state news agency Xinhua said on Wednesday, adding that "[t]heir intervention has led to chaos in Syria, Iraq and Libya." Saying that countries outside the region might only cause more problems in the dispute, Beijing has warned them to stay out of the issue, which it says "should be left to the countries of East and Southeast Asia."

The dispute over the South China Sea, which includes the Spratly and the Paracel Islands, involves rival territorial claims from China, the Philippines, Vietnam and Taiwan. China also has ongoing territorial disputes in the region with Malaysia and Brunei.

https://www.rt.com/news/352288-south-china-sea-us-intervention/

Mutta kirjoituksen mukaan kiina ei halua muiden maiden osallistuvan kahinoihin jos sellaiset syttyvät.

 

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Yhdysvaltain ja Uuden-Seelannin vuosikymmeniä viileät välit näyttävät olevan lämpenemässä. Merkki ei ehkä ole ystävyyden eleeksi kaikkein tavallisin: Yhdysvallat lähettää Uuteen-Seelantiin sotalaivan. Se kuitenkin symboloi juuri sitä, mistä riidassa on kyse.

Uudessa-Seelannissa vierailleen Yhdysvaltain varapresidentin Joe Bidenin mukaan yhdysvaltalaisalus telakoituu Uuden-Seelannin kutsusta Aucklandiin marraskuussa, kun Uuden-Seelannin laivasto viettää 75-vuotisjuhliaan.

Alus on Yhdysvaltain laivaston ensimmäinen uusiseelantilaisessa satamassa sitten 1980-luvun, jolloin liittolaismaat riitautuivat ydinaseiden vuoksi. Tuolloin Uusi-Seelanti julistautui ydinaseettomaksi ja torjui vesiltään ja satamistaan alukset, joissa on ydinaseistusta.

Yhdysvallat puolestaan piti kiinni politiikastaan, jonka mukaan se ei kerro, onko sen aluksissa ydinaseita. Se myös jäädytti Anzus-puolustussopimuksen, jossa kolmantena osapuolena oli Australia, ja sääti tiukkoja rajoituksia sotilaalliselle yhteistyölle.

Lopullinen lupa viipyy vielä
Uuden-Seelannin pääministerin John Keyn mukaan maiden on löydettävä ratkaisu kiistoihinsa toistensa periaatteita loukkaamatta.

– Suhteemme on tärkeämpi kuin toisen osapuolen voitto tai häviö. Kiista alkaa olla menneisyyttä, Key sanoi.

Jää maiden suhteista alkoi sulaa kylmän sodan jälkeen, kun Uusi-Seelanti lähetti sotilaita Yhdysvaltain johtamiin joukkoihin Afganistaniin. Vuonna 2010 Yhdysvaltain tuolloinen ulkoministeri Hillary Clinton kävi kylässä, ja kaksi vuotta myöhemmin maat allekirjoittivat puolustussopimuksen.

Keyn mukaan Yhdysvalloilta ei ole pyydetty, että se luopuisi salaamasta alustensa aseistuksen. Sen sijaan Uusi-Seelanti voi tyytyä uskomaan, ettei sinne tulevissa aluksissa ole ydinaseita.

Aivan lopullista päätöstä Key ei kuitenkaan sano vielä tehneenä. Hänen mukaansa tuntuisi kuitenkin perin kummalliselta, ellei Yhdysvallat olisi muiden ystävien ja tuttavien joukossa juhlimassa laivaston 75-vutoispäivää.

Rauhanryhmä lähettää vastaan oman laivastonsa
Kysymykseen siitä, tarkoittaako vierailu sotilaallisten suhteiden lähentymistä, Key vastasi NZME-kanavalle, että Anzusiin ei olla palaamassa.

– Meillä on itsenäinen ulkopolitiikka. Läheiset suhteet Yhdysvaltoihin ja muihin maihin ovat hyvä asia, mutta teemme omat päätöksemme asia asialta, Key sanoi.

Aktivistiryhmä Auckland Peace Action on ilmoittanut lähettävänsä laivojaan protestina yhdysvaltalaisalusta vastaan, jos se tulee Uuden-Seelannin vesille.

– Sota-aluksilla ei ole paikkaa rauhallisessa maassamme. Emme voi vain katsella vierestä, kun asekaupasta hyötyvät edistävät sotaa kauniissa kaupungissamme, sanoo järjestön edustaja Valerie Morse.

http://yle.fi/uutiset/sovun_ele_usa...hteissa_sota-alus_aucklandin_satamaan/9040293

 

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The top US navy commander vowed Wednesday to continue patrols in the South China Sea which have angered Beijing, after an international tribunal dismissed the Asian giant's vast maritime claims.

"The US Navy will continue to conduct routine and lawful operations around the world, including in the South China Sea," John Richardson said while visiting a navy base in northern China.

The sea has become a stage for rivalry between the two powers, with Washington in recent months sending navy vessels close to islands and outcrops claimed by China, provoking anger in Beijing.

"US forces will continue to sail, fly and operate wherever international law allows," Richardson said, according to an account released by Washington.

The remarks came a week after the Permanent Court of Arbitration in The Hague ruled there was no legal basis for Beijing's claim to nearly all the Sea, embodied in a "nine-dash line" dating from 1940s maps.

China rejected the verdict as "waste paper" and asserted its right to establish an Air Defence Identification Zone (ADIZ) controlling flights over the sea.

Unlike Beijing, Washington has not ratified the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) under which the tribunal ruled. But it has urged China to respect the verdict.

Chinese navy commander Wu Shengli told Richardson on Monday that Beijing would press ahead with construction in the disputed Spratlys, where it has built artificial islands on top of reefs and outcrops.

Washington has sailed warships within 12 nautical miles of some of them -- the normal territorial limit around natural land -- with Beijing citing the operations to accuse the US of "militarising" the region.

Last month China's President Xi Jinping took an apparent stab at the US patrols, saying: "We will not show up at other people's front doors to flex our muscles. That does not show strength or scare anyone."

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/US_navy_chief_vows_more_patrols_in_South_China_Sea_999.html

 

[trolli123]

http://yle.fi/uutiset/sovun_ele_usa...hteissa_sota-alus_aucklandin_satamaan/9040293

Jälleen kerran yle haastattelee vain Yhdysvaltoja vastustavia...

 

[Marakatti]

ZBD2000

Kiitoksia

 

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Southeast Asian nations were deadlocked Sunday about how to confront China's territorial claims in the South China Sea as pressure from Beijing again drove a wedge between countries on the region's toughest security challenge.

Their gathering in the Laos capital is the first time regional players -- including China and the United States -- have met en masse since a UN-backed tribunal delivered a hammer blow to Beijing's claim to vast stretches of the sea.

The 10-member Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) boasts four countries who have competing claims with Beijing to parts of the sea, and is fiercely divided on the issue.

Rival claimants have accused China of deftly forging alliances with smaller member countries like Laos, this year's host, and Cambodia through aid and loans to divide the once consensus-driven bloc.

Chinese pressure was blamed last month for a startling show of ASEAN discord when countries swiftly disavowed a joint statement released by Malaysia after an ASEAN-China meeting.

That statement had expressed alarm over Beijing's activities in the South China Sea. Cambodia and Laos were later fingered as being behind moves to block it.

Those divisions were on stark display once more in Vientiane on Sunday as regional foreign ministers met for talks.

Insiders accused Cambodia of scuppering moves to include a response to the tribunal ruling in a joint ASEAN communique, which is usually issued at the end of the foreign ministers' meeting.

"We need to put our house in order," one diplomat involved in discussions told AFP Sunday. "But we still have not agreed on anything."

Another ASEAN diplomat added: "We remain deadlocked. We're back to the negotiating table."

Laos described the initial meeting of foreign ministers as "candid and constructive" but by mid-afternoon there was little sign of a breakthrough.

The main sticking point was over whether to refer to the international tribunal ruling and if so how, a Southeast Asia diplomat told AFP.

Some countries are pushing to include a reference that urges all countries to fully "respect diplomatic and legal process", he said -- in line with statements released by the European Union, the US and Japan following the UN-backed decision.

Other countries are opposing any mention of the ruling.

Another diplomat said it was unlikely a statement would be issued on Sunday and if one was published in the coming days it would likely be "really watered down".

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/SE_Asia_deadlocked_as_S_China_Sea_split_deepens_999.html