Kylmän sodan salaisuudet??
- Viestiketjun aloittaja Hejsan
- Aloitus PVM
Tässä on vuonna 1987 jos NL hyökkää.
Se punainen on NL mantere ja se kaupunki on tukikohta, niin ruotsalaiset meinaasivat laitaa miinoja tukikohtaan eteen kun kuvassa näyttää.
Miten ne miinat saavat sinne?..sukellusveneillä?
Ja kun katto siitä kartaa niin on Viggen mukana ja rannikkotykistö, miinoja ja RBS-15 kuorma-auto
http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=38228&start=15
Se punainen on NL mantere ja se kaupunki on tukikohta, niin ruotsalaiset meinaasivat laitaa miinoja tukikohtaan eteen kun kuvassa näyttää.
Miten ne miinat saavat sinne?..sukellusveneillä?
Ja kun katto siitä kartaa niin on Viggen mukana ja rannikkotykistö, miinoja ja RBS-15 kuorma-auto
http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=38228&start=15
Interestingly, the anti-submarine warfare in Sweden
American submarines and other vessels operated "often" and "regularly" in the neutral Swedish territorial waters, including the Port of Stockholm, as part of an elaborate psychological warfare operation whose goal was the Swedish people. The Swedish people and government
seduced into believing that the vessels came from the Soviet Union. The U.S. operations were carried out probably by the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office (Nuro) and activities coordinated with the secret NATO network "Stay Behind" that are placed in Sweden. See Operation Gladio. British submarines also took part in these secret operations
http://nyapolitiken.biz/sve_politik/Tunander2.pdf
American submarines and other vessels operated "often" and "regularly" in the neutral Swedish territorial waters, including the Port of Stockholm, as part of an elaborate psychological warfare operation whose goal was the Swedish people. The Swedish people and government
seduced into believing that the vessels came from the Soviet Union. The U.S. operations were carried out probably by the National Underwater Reconnaissance Office (Nuro) and activities coordinated with the secret NATO network "Stay Behind" that are placed in Sweden. See Operation Gladio. British submarines also took part in these secret operations
http://nyapolitiken.biz/sve_politik/Tunander2.pdf
Neuvostoliitolla oli onneksi hyvinkin lähellä turva-alue sukellusveneilleen tulleensa havaituksi Ruotsin merivoimille. Nimittäin Suomen aluevedet.
Norja olisi luopunut koko Finnmark läänin NL:lle
Cold War defense included plans to sacrifice Finnmark in the north
The Norwegian government would have been prepared to give up the northern region of Finnmark in the event of an invasion by the Soviet Union, according to claims made in a new book released this week by a Cold War-era general
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/02/04/cold-war-defense-included-plans-to-sacrifice-finnmark/
Mutta jo katso Norjan lehdistön mukaan niin raja Kolmen rajan pyykistä
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4017474.ece
Tässä on norjalainen rajajääkäri kylmän sodan aikana
Cold War defense included plans to sacrifice Finnmark in the north
The Norwegian government would have been prepared to give up the northern region of Finnmark in the event of an invasion by the Soviet Union, according to claims made in a new book released this week by a Cold War-era general
http://www.newsinenglish.no/2011/02/04/cold-war-defense-included-plans-to-sacrifice-finnmark/
Mutta jo katso Norjan lehdistön mukaan niin raja Kolmen rajan pyykistä
http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/iriks/article4017474.ece
Tässä on norjalainen rajajääkäri kylmän sodan aikana
Ja Ruotsin puolustuslinja siellä pohjoisessa oli miten hyvät suomalaiset olivat.
The planning was changed again and again. It seemed that every planning reverse saw it as an end in itself to come to different results than the previous one. It was like the stock market. Finland's willingness and ability to fight was written up or written down, with the Swedish military planning became aggressive that the Torne River, or defensive ie Luleälven or någonsta'ns in between, ie Kalix or Råne River depending on the daily quotation of the Finns 'market value'.
When I served in the R 67 in 1965 or 1982-83 stood 3.förd in the initial position in front of Kalix line at about Sangis River.
http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?p=508471#p508471
The planning was changed again and again. It seemed that every planning reverse saw it as an end in itself to come to different results than the previous one. It was like the stock market. Finland's willingness and ability to fight was written up or written down, with the Swedish military planning became aggressive that the Torne River, or defensive ie Luleälven or någonsta'ns in between, ie Kalix or Råne River depending on the daily quotation of the Finns 'market value'.
When I served in the R 67 in 1965 or 1982-83 stood 3.förd in the initial position in front of Kalix line at about Sangis River.
http://forum.skalman.nu/viewtopic.php?p=508471#p508471
Finland and American intelligence, Secret history
AS a change from all the hectic news that has filled these pages in recent weeks, I thought readers might be interested in this interesting historical take on Finnish neutrality. It's by Jukka Rislakki, a Finnish author now based in Latvia. It won a prize in an American essay competition, but is not online anywhere, so I am posting it here. It's long, but gives a revealing take on a much neglected aspect of cold war history. Finland was a lot closer to American defence planning that most people realised at the time. I suspect that's still the case now. Apologies for the clumsy formatting of the footnotes.
“Without Mercy” – U.S. Strategic Intelligence and Finland in the Cold War
During the Cold War, Finland occupied a strategic position between two hostile blocks and was an object of interest to the superpowers as both a buffer zone and an overflight and military transit route. Both sides cultivated the potential to use tactical nuclear weapons against targets in our (i.e. Finnish) territory, at least pre-emptively. Both engaged themselves in intensive intelligence activities in Finland and in the bordering areas.
Bomber formations heading east would have crossed Finland’s air space during the first hours of a war between the two blocs. A Strategic Air Command (SAC) pilots’ Escape & Evasion route through Finland to the west was prepared for the eventuality that bombers ran out of fuel or were shot down on the way to or from the Moscow area.1
Already in April 1949 the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) said about the Scandinavian countries: “Current strategic plans envisage overflights of their territories by combat aircraft”. It was clear to them, as well as to Finnish intelligence, that Scandinavian air bases were necessary and would be used for this purpose by bombers stationed in England, Iceland, and Greenland.2
The Soviet Union wanted to detect and engage the adversary’s nuclear attack assets well before they reached the Soviet-Finnish border since Finland’s eastern border ran close to important Soviet population and military centers.3
The Finnish military informed the government in 1958 that there were “a lot of nuclear targets” behind our eastern border. Nowhere else were vital Soviet targets so well within the reach of the western military apparatus
On paljon lukemista!!!
http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2011/12/finland-and-american-intelligence
AS a change from all the hectic news that has filled these pages in recent weeks, I thought readers might be interested in this interesting historical take on Finnish neutrality. It's by Jukka Rislakki, a Finnish author now based in Latvia. It won a prize in an American essay competition, but is not online anywhere, so I am posting it here. It's long, but gives a revealing take on a much neglected aspect of cold war history. Finland was a lot closer to American defence planning that most people realised at the time. I suspect that's still the case now. Apologies for the clumsy formatting of the footnotes.
“Without Mercy” – U.S. Strategic Intelligence and Finland in the Cold War
During the Cold War, Finland occupied a strategic position between two hostile blocks and was an object of interest to the superpowers as both a buffer zone and an overflight and military transit route. Both sides cultivated the potential to use tactical nuclear weapons against targets in our (i.e. Finnish) territory, at least pre-emptively. Both engaged themselves in intensive intelligence activities in Finland and in the bordering areas.
Bomber formations heading east would have crossed Finland’s air space during the first hours of a war between the two blocs. A Strategic Air Command (SAC) pilots’ Escape & Evasion route through Finland to the west was prepared for the eventuality that bombers ran out of fuel or were shot down on the way to or from the Moscow area.1
Already in April 1949 the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) said about the Scandinavian countries: “Current strategic plans envisage overflights of their territories by combat aircraft”. It was clear to them, as well as to Finnish intelligence, that Scandinavian air bases were necessary and would be used for this purpose by bombers stationed in England, Iceland, and Greenland.2
The Soviet Union wanted to detect and engage the adversary’s nuclear attack assets well before they reached the Soviet-Finnish border since Finland’s eastern border ran close to important Soviet population and military centers.3
The Finnish military informed the government in 1958 that there were “a lot of nuclear targets” behind our eastern border. Nowhere else were vital Soviet targets so well within the reach of the western military apparatus
On paljon lukemista!!!
http://www.economist.com/blogs/easternapproaches/2011/12/finland-and-american-intelligence
Olikos se niin, että tämä on saksalaisten asentama, taisteluristeilijä Gneisenaulta purettu keskiraskaan tykistön tykkitorni ?Hejsan kirjoitti:Tanskan nyrkki itään Stevnsfort , http://www.stevnsfortet.dk/
Kaks 15 cm kanuuna ja kantama 22 km
Gneisenaun raskaan tykistön ehjät 280mm kolmoistornithan menivät Norjan rannikon puolustukseen.