Ukrainan konflikti/sota
Kun näytetään ketä on ja missä on niin näytetään voimaa ja uhkaillaan. Kun sammutetaan valot ja pidetään hiljaisuutta niin silloin keskitytään tekemiseen. Olisikin korkea aika lopettaa näytteleminen ja siirtyä näyttämään Putlerille, ei miltä Voima näyttää, vaan mitä oikealla voimalla saadaan aikaiseksi.
Tyyntä myrskyn edellä? Show time? Ensimmäisiä signaaleita?
Ei sivistyneet kansakunnat oikeasti voi katsella Ukrainan kansanmurhaa sivusta. On viimein aika toimia -yhdessä-. Jos se johtaa Venäjän mielestä extentiaaliseen tilanteeseen niin so be it. Se tilanne tulisi ennemmin tai myöhemmin Venäjän matkalla Lissaboniin. Ukrainan lukko ei saa murtua. Ukrainalaiset on tällä rajulla Venäjän vastustamisella taanneet paikkansa suurien kansakuntien joukossa. Yhtenä meistä Eurooppalaisista. Osana meidän perhettä.
Slava Ukraini! Слава Україні!
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Majuri
Samaa voitaisiin soveltaa venäläisten ostamiin ja tyhjinä möllöttäviin kiinteistöihin. Huomaamaton sähköinen valvonta, joka hälyttää kun havaitsee liikettä kiinteistön sisällä. Ollaan hiljaa, saadaan kalaa.
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Coffee Man
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On ihan selvä asia että näin raadollisessa sodankäynnissä kumpikin osapuoli syyllistyy raakuuksiin ja melko varmasti myös sotarikoksiin. Kuten Mika Aaltola jossain totesi niin sota on peto joka elää omaa elämäänsä eikä ole kaikilta osin kenenkään hallittavissa. Tässä sodassa peto on päästetty venäläisten toimesta ihan kunnolla irti ja kyllä se tarttuu myös vastapuoleen ja sille asialle ei kukaan mahda mitään.
Sotavankien teloittaminen on sotarikos ja jos nämä georgialaiset ovat siihen todistettavasti syyllistyneet niin ne pitää siitä myös tuomita.
Ukrainalle tämä on kiusallinen homma mutta länsimaissa ymmärretään riittävän hyvin se että venäläisten suorittamat sotarikokset ovat ihan ilmiselvästi systemaattista ja ainakin osittain jo etukäteen suunniteltua terroria johon kuuluu ihan oleellisena osana kaupunkien tuhoaminen, siviilien teloittaminen, raiskaaminen ja kiduttaminen jotka ovat kaikki sotarikoksia sieltä pahimmasta päästä.
Paljon saavat ukrainalaiset kuten myös georgialaiset sikailla että se alkaa länsimaiden tukitoimissa näkymään. Ilman muuta näitä pitää kuitenkin välttää sillä länsimaisilla ihmisillä on taipumusta moralisointiin ja tekopyhyyteen. Ilman länsimaiden tukea Ukraina häviää tämän sodan päivässä tai kahdessa. Olkoonkin että sitä tukea pitäisi antaa huomattavasti enemmän kun nyt annetaan.
Bwana
Kenraali
ido59
Majuri
Lyhyt katsaus venäjän Mustanmeren laivaston roolista ja etenkin Mustanmeren lippulaivasta Slava-luokan risteilijä Moskvasta.
Alus ilmeisesti johtaa merioperaatioita alueella, muttei juurikaan osallistu sotatoimiin, sillä aseistus on tarkoitettu lähinnä meri- ja ilmamaaleja vastaan. Alueella olevat ryssän alukset käyvät silloin tällöin Sevastopolissa täydennyksessä ja ainakin Moskva käyttää edelleen koko ajan samaa laituripaikkaa ja uskoo siis olevansa siellä turvassa.
Miten mehukas symbolinen temppu Ukrainalta olisikaan upottaa Mustaanmereen Moskova-niminen lippulaiva-alus
H I Sutton 07 Apr 2022
On the first day of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Russian warships appeared off a small rock in the Black Sea. Snake Island was, it turned out, minimally defended. But it is strategically located and could potentially provide intelligence to Ukrainian forces about shipping in the area. And taking the island could be symbolic of Russia’s expected victory.
History will remember the reaction of the defenders. Border guard Roman Hrybov famously replied to demands to surrender “Russian warship, go F*** yourself!“. The warship sitting off the island was none other than Moskva, the most powerful warship in the Black Sea.
A Slava class cruiser, Moskva is imposing in both size and armament. She is also, naturally, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. Once the island was taken, and Moskva settled in to a wartime routine.
Using open source intelligence (OSINT), we have pieced together her areas of operation during the war so far. Although we only have periodic snapshots, patterns have emerged. The analysis was made with the help of independent analyst Damien Symon and others.
With no aircraft carriers or other high value targets in the Black Sea the Vulkan missiles are not very relevant. But Moskva has another major weapon system which may be more useful. And it may directly affect where she is operating. The Slava class carries 64 S-300F Rif air defense missiles.
The Slava Class cruiser Moskva is heavily armed. But it does not have land attack cruise missiles like newer Russian Warships. File image, Yörük Işık
These long-ranged weapons allow her to cover most of the northern black sea from her patrol areas. This is likely part of an overlapping defensive zone with S-400 missiles based at Sevastopol. And possibly other similar systems deployed elsewhere on Crimea.
Odesa, also written Odessa, is Ukraine’s principle Black Sea port and is believed to have been an early objective of the Russian Advance. It is strategically and economically important. Capturing Odesa would make Ukraine almost landlocked. And likely connect to another strategic objective, creating a land bridge to Transnistria. This is a Russian backed unrecognized breakaway state in Moldova.
An early amphibious assault on Odesa did not materialize however. The most likely explanation is that the advance overland from Crimea was held up. Additionally the waters near Odesa are known to be mined.
From March 2 Russian warships began conducting intimidation missions close to Odesa. And they were possibly involved in a number of attacks on merchant ships, effectively creating a blockade. We have not seen any evidence that Moskva took an active part. Instead she remained further offshore.
An older warship, Moskva is not armed with land attack cruise missiles. The Kalibr missile, analogous to the U.S. Navy’s Tomahawk, came later. So unlike other ship types she has not played a direct role in the period barrage of cruise missiles launched against Ukraine.
Moskva, and virtually all Russian warships, periodically returned to their home port of Sevastopol on Crimea. Interestingly, she berthed in her usual position, creating a predictable pattern of movements. This may be an indicator of how Sevastopol is seen as safe from attack. It is true that it is out of range of Ukrainian missiles, and defended by layered air defenses. There has been one air defense incident over the city, when S-400 missiles were launched on March 26. This does not appear to have changed Moskva’s pattern.
As the war progressed the Russian Navy began conducting large-scale amphibious demonstrations. This involved sailing around six landing ships towards Odesa as if to conduct an assault. But then diverting at the last moment. These exercises tie up Ukrainian forces and act as a deception.
Moskva has been observed in both of the main documented examples of this. First on March 15 and then on March 30. There may be other unseen occasions. Here Moskva was surrounded by other warships or again, providing area protection from a position further out. It is intuitive that Moskva has played a command role in these operations.
As the most powerful warship in the Black Sea Fleet, and as flagship, Moskva is likely to continue to play these roles. Armed with stand-off air defenses, she is likely to remain mostly out of sight. But with Open Source Intelligence, we are able to track her much of the time.
@navalnews.com
Alus ilmeisesti johtaa merioperaatioita alueella, muttei juurikaan osallistu sotatoimiin, sillä aseistus on tarkoitettu lähinnä meri- ja ilmamaaleja vastaan. Alueella olevat ryssän alukset käyvät silloin tällöin Sevastopolissa täydennyksessä ja ainakin Moskva käyttää edelleen koko ajan samaa laituripaikkaa ja uskoo siis olevansa siellä turvassa.
Miten mehukas symbolinen temppu Ukrainalta olisikaan upottaa Mustaanmereen Moskova-niminen lippulaiva-alus
The Ukrainian Navy was no match for the massive concentration of Russian naval forces in the Black Sea. Yet Russia's most impressive warship there, the Slava class cruiser Moskva, has mostly remained out of sight. We can shine a light on what she has been up to so far in the war.
H I Sutton 07 Apr 2022
On the first day of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Russian warships appeared off a small rock in the Black Sea. Snake Island was, it turned out, minimally defended. But it is strategically located and could potentially provide intelligence to Ukrainian forces about shipping in the area. And taking the island could be symbolic of Russia’s expected victory.
History will remember the reaction of the defenders. Border guard Roman Hrybov famously replied to demands to surrender “Russian warship, go F*** yourself!“. The warship sitting off the island was none other than Moskva, the most powerful warship in the Black Sea.
A Slava class cruiser, Moskva is imposing in both size and armament. She is also, naturally, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. Once the island was taken, and Moskva settled in to a wartime routine.
Using open source intelligence (OSINT), we have pieced together her areas of operation during the war so far. Although we only have periodic snapshots, patterns have emerged. The analysis was made with the help of independent analyst Damien Symon and others.
The Slava Class
The Russian Navy’s concept of a cruiser is different from carrier-centric U.S. Navy’s. Instead of escorting their own aircraft carrier, the Slavas are intended primarily to attack enemy carriers. This influences their design which is built around 16 supersonic anti-ship missiles. These were originally the P-500 Bazalt type but have since been upgraded to the longer-ranged P-1000 Vulkan. Both missiles are known as the SS-N-12 Sandbox to NATO.With no aircraft carriers or other high value targets in the Black Sea the Vulkan missiles are not very relevant. But Moskva has another major weapon system which may be more useful. And it may directly affect where she is operating. The Slava class carries 64 S-300F Rif air defense missiles.
These long-ranged weapons allow her to cover most of the northern black sea from her patrol areas. This is likely part of an overlapping defensive zone with S-400 missiles based at Sevastopol. And possibly other similar systems deployed elsewhere on Crimea.
Snake Island, Home Base And Power Demonstration
Early in the war Moskva was principally operating in the vicinity of Snake Island. This was a relatively stand-off position relative to ongoing battles, and some distance from the strategic target of Odesa.Odesa, also written Odessa, is Ukraine’s principle Black Sea port and is believed to have been an early objective of the Russian Advance. It is strategically and economically important. Capturing Odesa would make Ukraine almost landlocked. And likely connect to another strategic objective, creating a land bridge to Transnistria. This is a Russian backed unrecognized breakaway state in Moldova.
An early amphibious assault on Odesa did not materialize however. The most likely explanation is that the advance overland from Crimea was held up. Additionally the waters near Odesa are known to be mined.
From March 2 Russian warships began conducting intimidation missions close to Odesa. And they were possibly involved in a number of attacks on merchant ships, effectively creating a blockade. We have not seen any evidence that Moskva took an active part. Instead she remained further offshore.
An older warship, Moskva is not armed with land attack cruise missiles. The Kalibr missile, analogous to the U.S. Navy’s Tomahawk, came later. So unlike other ship types she has not played a direct role in the period barrage of cruise missiles launched against Ukraine.
Moskva, and virtually all Russian warships, periodically returned to their home port of Sevastopol on Crimea. Interestingly, she berthed in her usual position, creating a predictable pattern of movements. This may be an indicator of how Sevastopol is seen as safe from attack. It is true that it is out of range of Ukrainian missiles, and defended by layered air defenses. There has been one air defense incident over the city, when S-400 missiles were launched on March 26. This does not appear to have changed Moskva’s pattern.
As the war progressed the Russian Navy began conducting large-scale amphibious demonstrations. This involved sailing around six landing ships towards Odesa as if to conduct an assault. But then diverting at the last moment. These exercises tie up Ukrainian forces and act as a deception.
Moskva has been observed in both of the main documented examples of this. First on March 15 and then on March 30. There may be other unseen occasions. Here Moskva was surrounded by other warships or again, providing area protection from a position further out. It is intuitive that Moskva has played a command role in these operations.
As the most powerful warship in the Black Sea Fleet, and as flagship, Moskva is likely to continue to play these roles. Armed with stand-off air defenses, she is likely to remain mostly out of sight. But with Open Source Intelligence, we are able to track her much of the time.
@navalnews.com
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Polttoaineen jakeluvelvoitetta alennetaan 12 sentillä litralta, ministeri toivoo sen näkyvän myös pumppuhinnoissa – Näin Suomi varautuu Venäjän hyökkäyssodan aiheuttamiin uhkiin
Mika Lintilä (kesk) RAIMO EEROLA
Minna Harmaala
Suomi alentaa polttoaineen niin sanottua jakeluvelvoitetta, joka on osaltaan nostanut polttoaineiden pumppuhintoja. Asiasta kertoi elinkeinoministeri Mika Lintilä (kesk.) puolilta päivin pidetyssä taloudellisen varautumisen ministerityöryhmän tiedotustilaisuudessa.
– Jakeluvelvoittetta tiputetaan 7,5 prosenttia tälle ja ensi vuodelle. Puhutaan noin 12 sentistä per litra, tässä vaiheessa vuotta voidaan olla korkeammalla. Tämä on valtion tahtotila. Se, näkyykö se pumppuhinnoissa, riippuu myös toimijoista. Vetoankin nyt toimijoihin, että tämä näkyisi myös pumppuhinnoissa.
– Valitettavasti ei ole näkyvissä sellaista kuvaa, että polttoaineen hinnat laskisivat lähitulevaisuudessa vaan ne tulevat nousemaan. Nyt pyrittiin hakemaan keinoja, joilla tätä nousua voitaisiin hillitä.
JAKELUVELVOITTEEN ALENTAMINEN on yksi osa toimista, joilla ministerityöryhmä pyrkii varautumaan Venäjän hyökkäyssodan taloudellisiin vaikutuksiin.
– Energiakokonaisuudella on neljä tavoitetta: Ensinnäkin tärkeä ja nopeasti etenevä tavoite on pyrkiä irti Venäjä-riippuvuudesta. Toiseksi tavoittelemme hiilineutraalia yhteiskuntaa ja etenemme sitä kohti. Kolmanneksi varmistamme Suomen omavaraisuuden energian suhteen kaikissa olosuhteissa. Neljänneksi tavoite on saada liikkeelle yksityistä rahaa, sanoi työryhmän puheenjohtaja, valtiovarainministeri Annika Saarikko (kesk.).
Lintiläkin korosti, että valtion investointirahoituksella on tarkoitus vivuttaa yksityistä rahaa liikkeelle.
– On selvää, että halpojen fossiilisten polttoaineiden aika on ohi. Suomalaiset myös tukevat sitä, että emme rahoita Putinin sotakassaa ostamalla fossiilisia polttoaineita Venäjältä, sanoi ympäristö- sekä ilmastoministeri Emma Kari (vihr.).
Karin mukaan vihreän siirtymän ratkaisut eivät ole Suomessa uusia.
– Ratkaisuja, joita aiemmin on tehty ilmastosyistä, tehdään nyt myös turvallisuussyistä.
OMAVARAISUUDEN parantaminen tarkoittaa muun muassa sitä, että turvetta varataan riittävästi seuraavaa lämmityskautta varten ja kotimaisen metsähakkeen tuotantoa pyritään lisäämään.
Suomi pyrkii nyt myös eroon venäläisestä kaasusta.
Suomi on myös ostamassa yhdessä Viron kanssa kelluvaa LNG-kaasun varastoa eli käytännössä valtavaa säiliöalusta, jotta päästäisiin irti Venäjän kaasusta.
– Alus pystyy turvaamaan kaasuntarpeemme, Lintilä vakuutti.
Polttoaineen jakeluvelvoitetta alennetaan 12 sentillä litralta, ministeri toivoo sen näkyvän myös pumppuhinnoissa – Näin Suomi varautuu Venäjän hyökkäyssodan aiheuttamiin uhkiin
Suomi alentaa polttoaineen niin sanottua jakeluvelvoitetta, joka on osaltaan nostanut polttoaineiden pumppuhintoja.
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Eversti
...Tähystäkää! BLAM! Tasalla! Suunnassa! Vasen 50, jatka 50, kerta ampukaa!
Siitäkös Putin riemastuisi, jos EU:n/Lännen rivit rupeaisi rakoilemaan!
Bwana
Kenraali
Noo, miten sen ottaa. Kyllä ne pyyhkijät menivät välillä vilkuttaessa päälle vielä kahdeksankin vuoden jälkeen. Ja sitten kotilomilla ensimmäinen 400 metriä Hauhontietä säännönmukaisesti taas väärällä puolella.
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Alus ilmeisesti johtaa merioperaatioita alueella, muttei juurikaan osallistu sotatoimiin, sillä aseistus on tarkoitettu lähinnä meri- ja ilmamaaleja vastaan. Alueella olevat ryssän alukset käyvät silloin tällöin Sevastopolissa täydennyksessä ja ainakin Moskva käyttää edelleen koko ajan samaa laituripaikkaa ja uskoo siis olevansa siellä turvassa.
Miten mehukas symbolinen temppu Ukrainalta olisikaan upottaa Mustaanmereen Moskova-niminen lippulaiva-alus
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The Ukrainian Navy was no match for the massive concentration of Russian naval forces in the Black Sea. Yet Russia's most impressive warship there, the Slava class cruiser Moskva, has mostly remained out of sight. We can shine a light on what she has been up to so far in the war.
H I Sutton 07 Apr 2022
On the first day of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Russian warships appeared off a small rock in the Black Sea. Snake Island was, it turned out, minimally defended. But it is strategically located and could potentially provide intelligence to Ukrainian forces about shipping in the area. And taking the island could be symbolic of Russia’s expected victory.
History will remember the reaction of the defenders. Border guard Roman Hrybov famously replied to demands to surrender “Russian warship, go F*** yourself!“. The warship sitting off the island was none other than Moskva, the most powerful warship in the Black Sea.
A Slava class cruiser, Moskva is imposing in both size and armament. She is also, naturally, the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. Once the island was taken, and Moskva settled in to a wartime routine.
Using open source intelligence (OSINT), we have pieced together her areas of operation during the war so far. Although we only have periodic snapshots, patterns have emerged. The analysis was made with the help of independent analyst Damien Symon and others.
The Slava Class
The Russian Navy’s concept of a cruiser is different from carrier-centric U.S. Navy’s. Instead of escorting their own aircraft carrier, the Slavas are intended primarily to attack enemy carriers. This influences their design which is built around 16 supersonic anti-ship missiles. These were originally the P-500 Bazalt type but have since been upgraded to the longer-ranged P-1000 Vulkan. Both missiles are known as the SS-N-12 Sandbox to NATO.
With no aircraft carriers or other high value targets in the Black Sea the Vulkan missiles are not very relevant. But Moskva has another major weapon system which may be more useful. And it may directly affect where she is operating. The Slava class carries 64 S-300F Rif air defense missiles.
The Slava Class cruiser Moskva is heavily armed. But it does not have land attack cruise missiles like newer Russian Warships. File image, Yörük Işık
These long-ranged weapons allow her to cover most of the northern black sea from her patrol areas. This is likely part of an overlapping defensive zone with S-400 missiles based at Sevastopol. And possibly other similar systems deployed elsewhere on Crimea.
Snake Island, Home Base And Power Demonstration
Early in the war Moskva was principally operating in the vicinity of Snake Island. This was a relatively stand-off position relative to ongoing battles, and some distance from the strategic target of Odesa.
Odesa, also written Odessa, is Ukraine’s principle Black Sea port and is believed to have been an early objective of the Russian Advance. It is strategically and economically important. Capturing Odesa would make Ukraine almost landlocked. And likely connect to another strategic objective, creating a land bridge to Transnistria. This is a Russian backed unrecognized breakaway state in Moldova.
An early amphibious assault on Odesa did not materialize however. The most likely explanation is that the advance overland from Crimea was held up. Additionally the waters near Odesa are known to be mined.
From March 2 Russian warships began conducting intimidation missions close to Odesa. And they were possibly involved in a number of attacks on merchant ships, effectively creating a blockade. We have not seen any evidence that Moskva took an active part. Instead she remained further offshore.
An older warship, Moskva is not armed with land attack cruise missiles. The Kalibr missile, analogous to the U.S. Navy’s Tomahawk, came later. So unlike other ship types she has not played a direct role in the period barrage of cruise missiles launched against Ukraine.
Moskva, and virtually all Russian warships, periodically returned to their home port of Sevastopol on Crimea. Interestingly, she berthed in her usual position, creating a predictable pattern of movements. This may be an indicator of how Sevastopol is seen as safe from attack. It is true that it is out of range of Ukrainian missiles, and defended by layered air defenses. There has been one air defense incident over the city, when S-400 missiles were launched on March 26. This does not appear to have changed Moskva’s pattern.
As the war progressed the Russian Navy began conducting large-scale amphibious demonstrations. This involved sailing around six landing ships towards Odesa as if to conduct an assault. But then diverting at the last moment. These exercises tie up Ukrainian forces and act as a deception.
Moskva has been observed in both of the main documented examples of this. First on March 15 and then on March 30. There may be other unseen occasions. Here Moskva was surrounded by other warships or again, providing area protection from a position further out. It is intuitive that Moskva has played a command role in these operations.
As the most powerful warship in the Black Sea Fleet, and as flagship, Moskva is likely to continue to play these roles. Armed with stand-off air defenses, she is likely to remain mostly out of sight. But with Open Source Intelligence, we are able to track her much of the time.
@navalnews.com
StepanRudanskij
Respected Leader
Tämä lienee sanottu aiemminkin, mutta toistettakoon vielä. Kyseessä eivät olleet sotavangit, he ja ylempänsä ovat erityisesti painottaneet, että kyseessä ei ole sota. Minun oikeustajuni antaa tällä perusteella myöten siihen, että nuo ukot saattoi tappaa, he olivat sanan ymmärrettävässä merkityksessä lainsuojattomia. Sotalait eivät heitä koskeneet.
Turhaa ja tarpeetonta kurkunkatkomista toki ja ilmeisesti jotain henkilökohtaisten juttujen käsittelemistä tuolta kurkunleikkaajalta. Näyttää rumalta ja toimii propagandavälineenä itseä vastaan eli tyhmää.