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A thread about Russian options in the east/south and timelines. There is talk these days about Russia wanting to tie up operations by May 9 (Victory Day) and making major advances either to cut the Ukrainians off in Donbas or move up to Dnipro.
This is a huge area of operations that would require skilful planning and coordination, motivated forces and great supply. It’s not something that the Russians have given any indication to this point they could pull off, esp with an army that has been suffering for 6 weeks.
First the size. To put the area of operations in context the distance from Kharkiv to Mariupol is 420 kms [Helsingistä Kajaaniin]; around 260 miles. In U.K. terms it’s almost the length of England (London to Sunderland) in US terms it’s like going NYC to WDC and then back to Baltimore.
The Russians are not only going to have to move up and down long lines of advance if they were going to take these areas, they are going to have to hold them. Right now they have nowhere near enough troops in theatre to do that.
On the north end of this area of operations the Russians have deployed 30 BTGs of approx 800-1000 soldiers. They have been in combat for almost six weeks and for all the talk about the importance of seizing Izium, they have advanced about 10 miles in 3 weeks. See map 16 March
So they have at most 24000 tired soldiers to control a large area from Kharkiv to Izium, which is also supposed to drive through determined Ukrainian resistance and create a Donbas pocket while protecting its long supply lines? Good luck.
Situation in the South is even tricker. Russians have two many different areas of operations. They have BTGs fighting from Mariupol to Kherson, which is almost exactly the same distance as Mariupol to Kharkiv. They have far fewer troops here they could spare to move on Dnipro
UAWAR data; an excellent resource, has only 6 Russian BTGs below Zaporizhzia. That is not enough to take that city: let alone maintain any major offensive. 5000 or so troops is way to small.
Russian troops around Kherson are already getting pushed back and the ones fighting in Mariupol will be in no shape to head into another major attack if/when that city falls.
It’s been why I’ve been banging on about seeing what reinforcements the Russians bring. They do not have anything like enough forces to undertake the kinds of operations people seem to be talking about. They will need massive reinforcement of well supplied troops.
If they are counting on the withdrawn Kyiv forces mainly, best guess is that it’s many weeks til they are rested. resupplied and transported to theatre for operations.
And all the while the Ukrainians will be reinforcing and resupplying as well. So the idea of the Russians wrapping up operations in the Donbas and seizing Dnipro by May 9 seems almost entirely implausible. Far more likely we have nasty attritional warfare along the present lines.
If I was a gambling man, which I’m not, I would wager it’s more likely we see a major Russian military collapse somewhere in the south and east (Kherson?) by May 9 through being overstretched and attritted than a Russian Army having seized Dnipro and surrounded the entire Donbas.
Btw, things don’t seem to be going well at all for Russian forces around Kherson.
Some stories of Russian troops (elite ones) refusing to go back to Ukraine. The idea that the troops just pulled from the north will quickly be redeployed to the Donbas to fight the Ukrainians again seems rather simplistic.
Russian soldiers who were originally deceived into this operation with promises of easy conquest have by this point experienced enough of Ukraine's fierce resistance that they are thinking twice about becoming Ukrainian fertilizer for the sake of Putin and his oligarchs.
Im sure Russian soldiers would be honored to sacrifice their lives so that Putin's cronies and mistresses can live like this.
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@thetimes story about British sourced thinking as well that the Russian army might suffer breakdowns because of exhaustion and being overstretched. Paywall but here is the start.
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Updating this thread today.
The Russian Army might be in worse shape than imagined (and Ive probably been about as skeptical about their condition as anyone since this started). It also looks like Putin doesnt trust forces that were not sent to Ukraine in the first place.
Why? There are signs that the Russians want to send the troops that have pulled out of Kyiv, Chernihiv and Sumy into the Donbas quickly, including those responsible for the Bucha massacre.
english.nv.ua/nation/russian…
Pentagon sources are saying that the plan is to send about two-thirds of the forces that the Russians have pulled out of the north and redeploy to the south and east.
