Ukrainan konflikti/sota
Antares
Respected Leader
On taas yksi hyvä video lisää, joka kertoo miten ryssäläisen logistiikka toimii. Tohtiiko kukaan arvata, kauanko tällainen junan "purkaminen" kestää ja toisaalta kauanko menee aikaa että tämä radan varteen nostettu tavara on saatu lastattua kuorma-autoihin ja ajettua pois. Varmista puhutaan "useista tunneista".
Paikallistettu:
"Russian invaders unloading military equipment in the village of Sokolohirne, Henichesk, Kherson Oblast, close to border with Zaphorizai Oblast."
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Sijainti kartalla:
Erikoinen paikka, Dzhankoin ja Melitopolin välillä. Tuosta on noin 50 km Melitopoliin.
Eilen raportoitiin että Melitopolissa oli räjähdyksiä, jäi epäselväksi oliko kyseessä HIMARS tai muut ohjukset vaiko paikallinen sabotaasiryhmä. Mahtaako tämä olla ryssän reaktio siihen eli ei tohdita ajaa huoltoa kaupunkiin asti? Vai onkohan tätä jatkunut jo pidemmän aikaa, jolloin ei olisi reaktio tuoreeseen iskuun vaan johonkin aikaisempaan "täysosumaan"?
Ylli
Majuri
Ammuttu kuuroksi? Joka tapauksessa lopun ajan toimintaa rysyiltä. Tapetaan lähteissä kaikki ikävät ihmiset kuten punaiset Suomen sisällissodassa.
ziizaah
Kersantti
Näissä venäläisten omissa kamikaze-droneissa ei tuo hyötykuorma taida olla kovinkaan suuri. Toki sillä jotain tutkapeilejä ja ohjusvaunuja tuhoaa, mutta mitään suurta vahinkoa ei taida saada aikaiseksi. Noita on varmaan aika vaikeaa saada tuhottua millään perinteisellä ilmatorjunnalla.
hyvis
Eversti
Kouluttajatkin viety rintamalle, joten ei ole enää ketään kouluttamaan mobilisoituja. Siemenviljan syöminen on lopulta turmiollista.
saftamil
Kenraali
Isoalaviiva
Majuri
Girkinistä kun oli puhetta, saa nähdä koska tulee kuvaa tuosta
Von Telkka
Kersantti
Mikä ihmeellinen itsesuojeluvaiston puute venäläisillä oikein on? Eikö tulisi viimeistään jo tuossa vaiheessa mieleen, että jos alku vedetään vihkoon, niin tuskin se retki tästä paremminkaan tulee sujumaan. Luulisi järkevämmän jampan jo katselevan itselleen poistumisreittiä, mutta eipä nämä. Siellä ihan lampaina vain odotellaan että joku tulee ja taluttaa viimeiselle matkalle.
Antares
Respected Leader
Tämä on nähty täällä aikaisemminkin, mutta laitetaan uudestaan kun sopii tilanteeseen niin hyvin:
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Jaroslaw Wolskin ajatuksia eilen nähdystä Ukrainan arviosta Venäjän jäljellä olevista ohjusmääristä (tietyt tyypit).
Ukrainan ilmoituksen mukaan jäljellä olisi 609 ohjusta ja Venäjä olisi ampunut 1 235 ohjusta.
Hänen laskujen mukaan kyseinen arvio on optimistinen, antaa ketjussa oman arvionsa (hän kirjoittaa risteilyohjuksista ja SRBMs eli Iskander-M ballistisista):
How many cruise missiles and SRBMs are still in Russia? You all know the graphics he posted @oleksiireznikov in your profile.
According to Russia's graphics, there were to be 609 missiles as a result of the use of 1235 missiles for attacks on targets in Ukraine.
Personally, this is a great optimism.
Russia has several basic types of cruise missiles, apart from some types only with the "A" warhead, we are interested in: Kh-555, Kh-101, 9М728 / R-500 Iskander, 3M14 Kalibr
With the SRBM, we have a 9M723 missile range of the Iskander system and the Tochka-U complex missiles. How many rockets could there be in Russia in February 2022?
These are, of course, confidential data, but there are some estimates as to their quantity. They are based on (explicit) engine manufacturer data turbojets for Kh-101, Kh-35 Uran, Kh-59, R-500 missiles.
In addition, there are data on the number of Kh-55 missiles taken from Ukraine and then converted into Kh-555. The data of the SRBM missiles are already burdened with a very large error because based on the number of Iskander sets in the number and the estimated unit of fire to them.
It is also worth mentioning that the USSR alone Kh-55 from 1983 to 1993 produced 1612 units, of which Russia bought 575 Kh-55 missiles from Ukraine in 2005. Some of them were converted to the Kh-555
So how many maneuvering missiles does Russia have?
Until 2010, most of the rockets in Russia had R95-300 turbojet engines from the USSR, bought back together with the 575 Kh-55 from Ukraine in 2005, and from the supplies accumulated by Russia.
Since 2010, however, Russia has developed three turbo-jets for its cruise and derivative missiles:
- simplified R95-300 for Kh-35 Uranus
- ТРДД-50 (from 2010) for 9M729 R-500, Kh-59, 3M14 Kalibr
- ТРДД-50 v.2 (from 2014) for 3M14T Kalibr and Kh-101
ANNUAL PRODUCTION of ТРДД-50 was about 45-50 units of each variant (!)
Data for «ОДК-Сатурн»
This gives us from 2010 to 2022 about 600 ТРДД-50 engines and about 400 ТРДД-50 v.2 engines.
A total of about 1000 pieces.
In addition, Russia bought 575 Kh-55 missiles from Ukraine in 2005, most of which were converted to Kh-555 before 2010.
In total, therefore, Russia could have slightly less than 1,600 cruise missiles (minus a certain number of Kh-59) minus a certain number of "A" weapon carriers - probably up to 1/4 of that number. So, in real terms, Russia could have around 1,200 conventional cruise missiles in February 2022.
If the Ukrainian data on the launch of 485 cruise missiles are correct, it means that the Russians have already used more than 40% of their reserves. They have around 700 left.
In the case of the Iskander system, in fact, the production of 900 pieces seems to be a rational estimate, officially it was reported that the RUS industry produced up to 50 Iskander-M ballistic missiles A YEAR which for 18 years of production (since 2004) is correct
if the Ukrainian data are true and as many as 770 SRBM missiles of the Iskander system were fired, only the missiles with "A" warheads could be left + current production which goes straight to the front.
Resume for Leftists: Russians are in s*** :
out of 900 Iskander-M, about 30-60 remain
out of 1,200 cruise missiles, up to 700 are left
Ukrainians have a FEW TIMES more GMLRS than RUS Iskander-M
According to Russia's graphics, there were to be 609 missiles as a result of the use of 1235 missiles for attacks on targets in Ukraine.
Personally, this is a great optimism.
Russia has several basic types of cruise missiles, apart from some types only with the "A" warhead, we are interested in: Kh-555, Kh-101, 9М728 / R-500 Iskander, 3M14 Kalibr
With the SRBM, we have a 9M723 missile range of the Iskander system and the Tochka-U complex missiles. How many rockets could there be in Russia in February 2022?
These are, of course, confidential data, but there are some estimates as to their quantity. They are based on (explicit) engine manufacturer data turbojets for Kh-101, Kh-35 Uran, Kh-59, R-500 missiles.
In addition, there are data on the number of Kh-55 missiles taken from Ukraine and then converted into Kh-555. The data of the SRBM missiles are already burdened with a very large error because based on the number of Iskander sets in the number and the estimated unit of fire to them.
It is also worth mentioning that the USSR alone Kh-55 from 1983 to 1993 produced 1612 units, of which Russia bought 575 Kh-55 missiles from Ukraine in 2005. Some of them were converted to the Kh-555
So how many maneuvering missiles does Russia have?
Until 2010, most of the rockets in Russia had R95-300 turbojet engines from the USSR, bought back together with the 575 Kh-55 from Ukraine in 2005, and from the supplies accumulated by Russia.
Since 2010, however, Russia has developed three turbo-jets for its cruise and derivative missiles:
- simplified R95-300 for Kh-35 Uranus
- ТРДД-50 (from 2010) for 9M729 R-500, Kh-59, 3M14 Kalibr
- ТРДД-50 v.2 (from 2014) for 3M14T Kalibr and Kh-101
ANNUAL PRODUCTION of ТРДД-50 was about 45-50 units of each variant (!)
Data for «ОДК-Сатурн»
This gives us from 2010 to 2022 about 600 ТРДД-50 engines and about 400 ТРДД-50 v.2 engines.
A total of about 1000 pieces.
In addition, Russia bought 575 Kh-55 missiles from Ukraine in 2005, most of which were converted to Kh-555 before 2010.
In total, therefore, Russia could have slightly less than 1,600 cruise missiles (minus a certain number of Kh-59) minus a certain number of "A" weapon carriers - probably up to 1/4 of that number. So, in real terms, Russia could have around 1,200 conventional cruise missiles in February 2022.
If the Ukrainian data on the launch of 485 cruise missiles are correct, it means that the Russians have already used more than 40% of their reserves. They have around 700 left.
In the case of the Iskander system, in fact, the production of 900 pieces seems to be a rational estimate, officially it was reported that the RUS industry produced up to 50 Iskander-M ballistic missiles A YEAR which for 18 years of production (since 2004) is correct
if the Ukrainian data are true and as many as 770 SRBM missiles of the Iskander system were fired, only the missiles with "A" warheads could be left + current production which goes straight to the front.
Resume for Leftists: Russians are in s*** :
out of 900 Iskander-M, about 30-60 remain
out of 1,200 cruise missiles, up to 700 are left
Ukrainians have a FEW TIMES more GMLRS than RUS Iskander-M
Yksi ketjun kommentti:
Anyone count how many rockets they fired in Syria? There may be more losses in warehouses
Johon Wolski vastasi näin:
about 100
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Jos ei jaksa lukea ketjua, niin tässä hänen arvionsa (poimin nämä lauseet ketjusta epäjärjestyksessä, mutta asia käynee selväksi):
out of 900 Iskander-M, about 30-60 remain
out of 1,200 cruise missiles (Kalibr, Kh-101, Kh-59, Kh-55), up to 700 are left
officially it was reported that the RUS industry produced up to 50 Iskander-M ballistic missiles A YEAR
if the Ukrainian data are true and as many as 770 SRBM missiles of the Iskander system were fired, only the missiles with "A" warheads could be left (oletan että tällä tarkoitetaan ydinkärjellisiä eli taktisia ydinaseita - ne jotka toimitetaan risteilyohjuksella) + current production which goes straight to the front.
Kalibr-, Kh-59 ja Kh-101 risteilyohjuksista hän kirjoittaa että vuoden 2010 jälkeen tuotannossa on ollut kaksi eri moottorityyppiä, vuosituotannoksi on kerrottu:
ANNUAL PRODUCTION of ТРДД-50 was about 45-50 units of each variant (eli suomeksi tuotantokapasiteetti 90-100 kpl per vuosi)
MUOKKAUS: Wolski päätti täsmentää numeroitaan seuraavalla viestillä: LÄHDE
Let me add that: the estimates included just over 100 calibers used in Syria and about 200 missiles of this type exported to various recipients.
Saman viestin kommenteissa häneltä kysyttiin arviota osumaprosentille: LÄHDE
This is another question - what percentage is unskilled / will not hit after sending? Any data?
Hän vastasi näin: LÄHDE
around 22-27% xD
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missileman
Kenraali
Ukrainian artillery of the 63rd brigade destroys Russian IFVs
missileman
Kenraali
Destroyed base of Russian special forces found in a liberated village in Kharkiv region. Destroyed trucks and Iveco LMV
missileman
Kenraali
Ryssien viemiä lapsia Mariupolista, palaa äitinsä luokse
missileman
Kenraali
Jahas ensimmäiset venäläiset, jotka liittyvät Valkovenäjän joint grouppiin. Miten minusta tuntuu, että ovat helpottuneita koska tämä porukka ei tule hyökkäämään mihinkään.
missileman
Kenraali
No ohhoh.......
Ei ole valitettavasti vielä HIMARSin kantaman sisällä.