Ukrainan konflikti/sota

Onko näin? Eikö tuossa nimenomaan todeta lopuksi, että ukraina etsii kohteet ja pyytää tarkistusta ja _tarkempia_ koordinaatteja.

The senior Ukrainian official described the targeting process, generally: Ukrainian military personnel identify targets they want to hit, and in which location, and that information is then sent up to senior commanders, who then relay the request to U.S. partners for more accurate coordinates. The Americans do not always provide the requested coordinates, the official said, in which case the Ukrainian troops do not fire.

Ukraine could carry out strikes without U.S. help but because Kyiv doesn’t want to waste valuable ammunition and miss, it usually chooses not to strike without U.S. confirmation, the official said, adding that there are no complaints about the process.

“According to our maps and software, a point will have one set of coordinates,” Malinovsky said. “But when we give this target to partners for analysis, the coordinates are different. Why? Because the Americans and NATO countries have access to military satellites.”
“We’re all basically always online,” he added. “They immediately get us the coordinates and we then fire the MLRS right away.”
On näin. Oma pointtini ja itselleni jutun tärkein lause oli kuitenkin se, että Ukrainalaiset iskevät lähes ainoastaan USA:lta saatuihin kohteisiin ja koordinaatteihin. "Ukrainian forces almost never launch the advanced weapons without specific coordinates provided by U.S." Kohteella on siis USA:n lupa, hyväksyntä ehkä halukin. Ja kaikkiin eivät jutun mukaan myöskään saa pyytämäänsä dataa kun USA tekee valintaa syystä tai toisesta.
 
On näin. Oma pointtini ja itselleni jutun tärkein lause oli kuitenkin se, että Ukrainalaiset iskevät lähes ainoastaan USA:lta saatuihin kohteisiin ja koordinaatteihin. "Ukrainian forces almost never launch the advanced weapons without specific coordinates provided by U.S." Kohteella on siis USA:n lupa, hyväksyntä ehkä halukin. Ja kaikkiin eivät jutun mukaan myöskään saa pyytämäänsä dataa kun USA tekee valintaa syystä tai toisesta.
Jos käytäntö on tällainen, ja USA:n hyväksymiin kohteisiin raketteja pitkälti ammutaan, niin sitä enemmän ihmetyttää, että miksei sitten toimiteta ATACMS-ohjuksiakin...
 
Hmm, Wagner lopettanut vankien värväämisen.

Myös uusi maastopuku malli, "Semitsvek", "seitsenvärinen" tullut. Yhtiöltä Gardariki jonka perusti 22-vuotias heppu jonka isi nyt vain sattui olemaan valtionyhtiön (Federal Property Managemet Agency) pomo. Sai läpi luvat ja puolustusministeriön siunauksen toimittaa kampetta, vaikka hinta olikin huhujen mukaan yli seitsenkertainen muihin.. Korruptiolla ei varmaankaan ollut osuutta asiaan kun kerran Venäjästä kyse...
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Hmm, Wagner lopettanut vankien värväämisen.
Jep ja kuten aiemmin tähän ketjuun kinkkasin, niin Prigozhinin mukaan syynä on se, että se 10 miljoonaa jenkkiä on hakenu Wagneriin.

100 venäläistä kuollu iskussa Berdianskin lentokentälle.
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/02/9/7388715/
 
Ja koska 180 astetta niin Russia MFA ja kaikki edustustot twiittasivat eilen virallisen tiedotteen Natsien teloittavan sotavankeja

Ilmeisesti tässä tuosta väitetystä teloitusvideosta
Laitan Google-käännöksen lainauksiin
Yesterday, a video started bouncing wildly in pro-🇷🇺 Telegram channels where you can see a soldier lying on the ground being shot in the head for seemingly no reason.
The original channel where it was published reports that the 1/10 is not known
Location where the video was shot, and apart from the white tape on the arm of the soldiers (usually associated with the forces 🇷🇺), there are no signs that can help identify the units of the soldiers affected or those who shoot.
So there are no 2/10s
Elements needed to shift responsibility for actions to one side or the other.
Cum grano salis, we can analyze the various possibilities: - the video could show a case in which troops 🇺🇦 open fire against surrendered regular soldiers 🇷🇺, which 3/10
It would constitute a violation of the Geneva Convention and therefore be a war crime;
-The video may show a case where troops 🇺🇦 open fire on surrendered Wagner/other PMC 🇷🇺 soldiers. In this case, what is shown in the video does not constitute 4/10
A war crime, as the protection of the Geneva convention does not extend to mercenaries. Despite this, it still remains morally deplorable;
-the third option is for this video to show an internal troop violence case 🇷🇺, possibly a 5/10 confrontation
Between regular troops and PMC members 🇷🇺.
This is not the first case in which such an episode is documented: recently, the propagandist Ihor Mangushev, who appeared on video in which he spoke with the skull of one of the defenders of Mariupol in his hand (pictured) died 6/10
Following unclear circumstances in which he took a bullet to the head. According to some sources 🇷🇺, the bullet was fired by two Wagnerites who tried to cover their tracks after robbing him.
This is not the only example of extreme violence 7/10
In the ranks of the forces 🇷🇺: On February 6 reconnaissance drone operators 🇺🇦 filmed Wagnerites taking their commander away from the front after he was wounded, only to finish him off shortly after with what appear to be clubs or spades. Finally, 8/10 cannot be excluded
The propaganda factor: this video was bounced by dozens of pro-🇷🇺 Telegram channels with captions like "that's why it's better to die fighting than surrender".
In light of all this information, it is not currently possible to establish who has 9/10
Actually shot at whom, and so it's impossible to tell whether this is actually a war crime or not.
Nonetheless, from what we see, the act itself is morally wrong, regardless of whoever did it. 10/10
PS: there is also the possibility that those who are identified as military 🇷🇺 use camouflage 🇺🇦. This is a war crime that falls under "perfidy", and if so it could be considered an aggravating or contributing factor depending on the original scenario.
 
Eilisyön raportti Micekiltä. Bakhmutin ympäristö on pitänyt ja myös vastahyökkäyksillä puhdistettu osaa alueista. Myös hyvät korkeuseroanalyysit miksei ryssä ole pariin päivään edennyt etelästä.
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Bakhmut. AU forces recaptured meat processing plants and their surroundings in the northern part of the city. They also managed to throw back the RUS forces that crossed the Bachmutka River and tried to attack the village of Jahidne. The rest of the city - no major changes. The whole city is under heavy fire from RUS artillery. 8/

Beautiful. RUS attacks from time to time, but they cannot directly capture the area of the T0504 road, the village of Krasne and even more so the areas located in the direction of Czasiw Jar. Since yesterday, the RUS made no progress here. Attempts to go to the village of Stupoczky ended in defeat. 9/

 
Hmm, Wagner lopettanut vankien värväämisen.

Myös uusi maastopuku malli, "Semitsvek", "seitsenvärinen" tullut. Yhtiöltä Gardariki jonka perusti 22-vuotias heppu jonka isi nyt vain sattui olemaan valtionyhtiön (Federal Property Managemet Agency) pomo. Sai läpi luvat ja puolustusministeriön siunauksen toimittaa kampetta, vaikka hinta olikin huhujen mukaan yli seitsenkertainen muihin.. Korruptiolla ei varmaankaan ollut osuutta asiaan kun kerran Venäjästä kyse...
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Maastupukujuttu selittää, miksi näitä multicam kopioita näkyy usein vanjan paremmilla joukoilla.
 
Bakhmut. AU forces recaptured meat processing plants and their surroundings in the northern part of the city. They also managed to throw back the RUS forces that crossed the Bachmutka River and tried to attack the village of Jahidne. The rest of the city - no major changes. The whole city is under heavy fire from RUS artillery. 8/

Beautiful. RUS attacks from time to time, but they cannot directly capture the area of the T0504 road, the village of Krasne and even more so the areas located in the direction of Czasiw Jar. Since yesterday, the RUS made no progress here. Attempts to go to the village of Stupoczky ended in defeat. 9/
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Jahhas. Vai räjäytti amerikkalaiset Bidenin käskystä Nordstream -putket. Ja katalat norjalaiset avustivat.

Ryssä on valjastanut tämän 85-vuotiaan papan propagandansa levittäjäksi.
 
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