Ilmatorjunta

Mitä sitä enää alueit:tä hankkimaan. Jutun mukaan ilmatorjunta on meillä kunnossa. "Kaikki viholliset pudotettiin eikä yhtään pommia pudonnut Helsinkiin".

Suurvaltavihollisen toimintamallihan on juuri tuollainen. Lähetetään kahdeksan rynnäkkökonetta. Ei taustahäirintää, ei SEAD koneita, ei hämäystä, ei saattohäirintää suorittavia ELSO koneita, ei silppua, ei lennokkoja valemaaleiksi, ei tykistöohjuksia paikannettujen it-järjestelmien lamauttamiseen.
 
Puolan Patriot-hankinta etenee:

World News | Fri Mar 31, 2017 | 2:52pm EDT
Poland expects to ink $7.6 billion deal for Patriot systems by end-2017


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Poland's Defence Minister Antoni Macierewicz speaks during a news conference in Tallinn, Estonia, March 14, 2017. REUTERS/Ints Kalnins
By Lidia Kelly | WARSAW

Poland expects to sign a deal worth up to $7.6 billion with U.S. firm Raytheon to buy eight Patriot missile defense systems by the end of the year, Defense Minister Antoni Macierewicz said on Friday.

Warsaw sees the deal as central to a thorough modernization of its armed forces by 2023, in light of what Macierewicz called "growing aggression and a growing threat from the East."

NATO member Poland has sped up efforts to overhaul its military following Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula in 2014 and in response to Moscow's renewed military and political assertiveness in the region.

"Those systems allow us to guarantee the security of the Polish state," Macierewicz told a news conference.

The contract still requires approval from the U.S. Congress, as it involves a purchase of advanced military technology for which special permission must be obtained.

"It's premature to say that it is all done," Bill Schmieder, Raytheon's head for Europe, told the same briefing. "But we have very high hopes that the process will proceed normally."

The Patriot mobile missile defense interceptors are designed to detect, track and engage unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), cruise missiles and short-range or tactical ballistic missiles.

Poland should receive the first of the Patriot systems within two years of signing the contract, Macierewicz said. All of the units would come with the Integrated Battle Command System (IBCS), designed to give commanders a better perspective of their operating environment to make better informed decisions.

Starting with the delivery of the third system, the Patriots will also be equipped with 360-degree surveillance radars.

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Poland spends about 2 percent of its gross domestic product on defense, in line with NATO's target. But some military officials are pressing for more, saying nearly two-thirds of hardware dates from the era when the country was in the Moscow-led Warsaw Pact.

Later on Friday, the Defence Ministry said it had also signed a $523.6 million agreement with Boeing to supply three 737-800 airliners for the use of senior Polish state officials.

Two aircraft will be new and one used. The used aircraft will be delivered this year and the two new airplanes in 2020.

(Additional reporting by Anna Koper; Writing by Lidia Kelly; Editing by Mark Trevelyan)

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-poland-defence-raytheon-patriots-idUSKBN1720X3
 
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Russia has displayed versions of the KBP Instrument Design Bureau Pantsyr-S1 and Almaz-Antey Tor-M2 air defence systems integrated onto Vityaz DT-30-series all-terrain tracked carriers (ATTCs) optimised for Arctic operations.

The systems were first seen in footage of a rehearsal for Russia's 9 May Victory Day parade shown by Russian television on 5 April and then in a photograph released by the Russian Ministry of Defence on 8 April.

The DT-30 is amphibious, has a load-carrying capability of around 30 tonnes, and consists of two sections that are joined by an articulated joint to allow for a high degree of articulation while moving across rough terrain, including sand, ice, and snow.

The vehicle's wide tracks provide a low ground pressure that allows it to cross terrain that is not passable by conventional tracked and wheeled platforms.

The front section houses the crew compartment and powerpack, with the rear section used to carry the load.

The Pantsyr-S1 and Tor-M2 systems seen on the rear sections of the ATTCs in the parade rehearsal were both covered, making it difficult to establish whether they are configured in the same way as the variants that are already in service with the Russian military.

The Pantsyr-S1 normally has 12 missile launch tubes (six on each side) and two twin 30 mm 2A38M cannons. The latter enable close-in targets such as cruise missiles to be engaged as well as providing a secondary capability to engage ground targets out to a range of 4,000 m.

An artist's impression of the arctic Pantsyr-S1 that emerged last year indicated it will have 18 missile launch tubes and the new bidirectional phased array search radar, but not the 30 mm guns.
http://www.janes.com/article/69523/russia-unveils-arctic-air-defence-systems

Miksi se ottavat tykit pois arktisista pantsireista? Jäätyvätkö ne helpommin kuin ohjustimien putkiluukut?
 
Tämä on kiinnostava. Israelin iso kauppa Intiaan. MRSAM maalle ja LRSAM lentotukialus Vikrantiin. Barak 8:n eri muotoja molemmat. Varsinkin tuon merelle tulevan 8ER:n, jonka kantamaksi kerrotaan 90 mailia voisi ottaa hetkeksi palstan erikoishuomion kohteeksi.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...4/israel-secures-huge-missile-contracts-india

Ja tuo oli epäilemättä joko halvin tarjous tai sitten se osapuoli joka voiteli oikeat henkilöt. Vai olisiko myyjä sopivan neutraali osapuoli.
 
Kohta foorumilla alkaa kauhea itku ja vaikerrus... :rolleyes:

Niin mitäpä ne siellä tietäisivät. Kyllähän täällä alan miehet tietää, että kannattaa ostaa Taiwanista Kyrp-kepukk-3 ultraviolettiohjuksia ja sijoittaa ne amfibioajoneuvoihin.
 
Millainen lienee 9 Sergein patteri kuorma-autojen lavoille sijoitettuna?

Jaos?

3 * ryhmä 7 taistelijaa, Sergei, Kuorma-auto

1 * komentoryhmä

Patteri ?

3. * jaos

1 * komentojaos

1 * huoltojaos
 
Joo ja vielä kun niillä saisi ammutta nykypäivän maaleja alas ;) Noo köyhällä ei ole varaa valita tai valittaa.
 
Tämä kertoo myös siitä, että MEKTSTOS:illa on ollut ja on ilmatorjuntavaje. Osaston ITPSTO:ssa on koko ajan ollut Sergei patteri, nyt siis lisätään AUTOITPTRI siihen päälle, jos ymmärsin oikein.
 
Tämä kertoo myös siitä, että MEKTSTOS:illa on ollut ja on ilmatorjuntavaje. Osaston ITPSTO:ssa on koko ajan ollut Sergei patteri, nyt siis lisätään AUTOITPTRI siihen päälle, jos ymmärsin oikein.

Käsittääkseni mekanisoiduilla tstosastoilla on ainoastaan it-patteri ja se on juuri tuo Ruotuväessä esitelty autoalustainen. Vajeesta on helppo olla samaa mieltä vaikka siellä on myös ne kolme Marksmania.

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Julkisesti esitelty kokoonpano
 
Niin, onko Sergei enää nykyaikaisen mekanisoidun joukon validi ase ainakaan ainoana asejärjestelmänä? Kyllä jotain ohjuspuikkoa olisi ihan kiva olla myös. Tosin se helppotttaa tilannetta, ettei MEKTSTOS varmaan koskaan toimi yksin, vaan sillä on mm. KARJPR ilmatorjunta apuna.
 
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