Korean Sota Osa II ?

[ctg]

Mexico – which has built a foreign policy doctrine on diplomatic non-interference in other nations’ affairs – has expelled North Korea’s ambassador in protest at its nuclear tests, which Mexico said were “flagrant violations” of international law and UN Security Council resolutions.

https://www.ft.com/content/63c57af3-dbcb-3977-9431-fbc7a0e6f9bf

“This is not to do with the US push but with Mexico’s position as a traditional champion of non-proliferation and nuclear disarmament,” he told the FT.

 

[Teräsmies]

Jos palataan vielä tuohon tussahdukseen niin onko sille jo tullut virallinen vahvistus että kyseessä oli vetypommi? Kokoluokkahan(50-120kt lähteestä riippuen) on vielä reilusti alle fissiopommin teoreettisen maksimin 500kt.

Ivy King tarvitsi noin 60kg uraania (joidenkin kirjojen mukaan lähemmäs 100kg) joten tuskinpa käyttäisivät noin paljon materiaalia pelkkään propagandaan. Helpompaa valmistaa vetypommi ja tuosta 60kg:sta riittäisi useampaan pienempään testiin joista olisi enemmän hyötyä... räjähdyksen teho oli lähteestä riippuen 120-300kt.

Pimeyden valtakunta.

Katso liite: 16418

Korean epädemokraattisen kansantasavallan luhistuminen sisältäpäin saattaisi olla toivottavin vaihtoehto. Kim-dynastiankaan jatkuminen ei enää ole kovin varmaa.



Sitä voisi vauhdittaakin. Esimerkiksi teekutsuilla tai -seremonialla.

Spoiler

Kesäkuussa 2012 esitetyn Al Jazeera -kanavan dokumentin mukaan Arafatin huivista ja hammasharjasta on löytynyt poikkeuksellisen paljon poloniumia, joka aiheutti entisen venäläisvakoilijan Aleksandr Litvinenkon kuoleman 2006. Ranskan viranomaiset ilmoittivat marraskuussa 2012, että Arafatin ruumiista otetaan näytteitä kuolinsyyn selvittämiseksi.[13] Arafatin luista löydettiin 2013 kolmen eri laboratorion tutkimuksissa poikkeuksellisia pitoisuuksia poloniumia, mikä sveitsiläisten tutkijoiden mukaan voisi viitata myrkytyskuolemaan, mutta sitä ei pysty vahvistamaan. [14] [15] https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasser_Arafat

Kaikki merkit viittaavat siihen, että Un on alkanut siirtymään pois "armeija ensin" ajattelusta ja alkanut ajamaan uudistuksia maatalouteen yms. Teekutsuista ei varmaankaan kannata haaveilla nyt kun eletään puhdistusten jälkeistä aikaa.
https://www.ft.com/content/2de06fec-8d6a-11e7-9084-d0c17942ba93
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/30/world/asia/north-korea-economy-marketplace.html?mcubz=0

 

[Teräsmies]

North Korea's Missile Submarine(s): Part 1

In addition to a new ICBM and thermonuclear weapon, North Korea is also developing new class of solid-fueled missiles.

Joseph Dempsey from the International Institute of Strategic Studies joins Jeffrey in a special three part episode to discuss the Pukguksong-1 submarine launched ballistic missile, the land-based Pukguksong-2 medium range ballistic missile, and Kim Jong Un's visit to the Chemical Material Institute in Hamhung.

Part 1 of 3, originally recorded in August, before ICBM and H-Bomb fever

http://armscontrolwonk.libsyn.com/north-koreas-missile-submarines

 

[Vonka]

Hei Kim, Reagan tulee, oletko valmis?

CSG-7:n lippulaiva USS Ronald Reagan on lähtenyt Yokosukasta liikkeelle Korean maisemiin. Ilmeisesti tiedustelemaan?

332,8 metriä pitkässä lentotukialuksessa on kaksi RAM-alustaa, 3200 merimiestä ja 2480 miehen lennosto. 90 lentokonetta ja helikopteria.

 

[Osasto 31]

Linkki: https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...-attack-leaves-japan-vulnerable/#.WbN5NMig9PY

Threat of North Korean EMP attack leaves Japan vulnerable

The North Korean nuclear crisis has fueled global concern over how much time is left before Pyongyang masters the technology required to miniaturize nuclear warheads and make the re-entry vehicles needed to deliver them on target.

But a Sept. 3 announcement by the reclusive state raised fears of another kind of attack that completely bypasses those hurdles: an electromagnetic pulse.

In Sunday’s announcement, Pyongyang claimed to have successfully tested a hydrogen bomb and said it had the ability to detonate one at high altitude to generate an EMP — an electromagnetic wave that would fry electronic devices and disrupt communications for hundreds of kilometers around.

A nuclear device detonated 30 km to 400 km above ground could disrupt nearly all types of electronics within range, including computers, power grids and communication systems, experts say. Recovery could take years.

“The electromagnetic pulse generated by a high-altitude nuclear explosion is one of a small number of threats that can hold our society at risk of catastrophic consequences,” concluded a 2008 report by a U.S. commission tasked with assessing such threats for Congress, the president and other key government bodies.

Some experts have questioned the commission’s estimates. Others have argued the North would not stage such an attack because it would immediately be met by a massive, devastating retaliatory attack by the U.S.

But perhaps the most alarming aspect of an EMP attack is that staging one wouldn’t require an accurate ballistic missile. Even a simple balloon would be enough.

“For instance North Korea could make an EMP attack against the United States by launching a short-range missile off a freighter or submarine or by lofting a warhead to 30 kilometers burst height by balloon,” William Graham, chairman of the U.S. congressional commission, wrote in a June 2 article published by 38 North, an authoritative website that specializes in analysis of North Korean affairs. “Even a balloon-lofted warhead detonated at 30 kilometers altitude could blackout the Eastern Grid that supports most of the population and generates 75 percent of U.S. electricity.”

Japan, experts say, looks particularly vulnerable compared with the U.S., which is thought to have already shielded key defense and government facilities from EMPs.

At a news conference Thursday, Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga said Japan would consider measures to do the same.

But a senior government official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, admitted that Japan remains in the very early stages of addressing EMP threats and said Suga’s comment means the government “will just start studying what it can do.”

Retired Major Gen. Takashi Onizuka of the Ground Self-Defense Force has long warned that a nuclear EMP attack could be catastrophic for Japan.

Onizuka headed the GSDF’s Chemical School in Omiya, Saitama Prefecture, Japan’s sole institute specializing in studying defensive measures against nuclear, biological and chemical weapons, from 2004 to 2005.

“Japan hasn’t even recognized the EMP threat until recently,” he told The Japan Times in a telephone interview, adding that he doesn’t believe even the Self-Defense Forces are well-prepared against EMP threats.

According to Onizuka, if a 10-kiloton atomic bomb is detonated 30 km above the Kanto region, it would have a 602-km radius of effect that would cover most of Honshu. At an altitude of 135 km, the blast radius would expand to 1,300 km, covering Hokkaido and Kyushu.

In a 2016 article for the Tokyo-based nonprofit organization Center for Information and Security Trade Control, Onizuka warned that a high-altitude EMP attack would damage or destroy Japan’s power, communications and transport systems as well as disable banks, hospitals and nuclear power plants.

“If the electricity supply for a nuclear power plant is cut off, and the operator cannot deal with the situation by activating an emergency power system or generators, it could lead to an emergency like the Fukushima nuclear power plant accident,” Onizuka wrote.

After the Fukushima core meltdowns, Japan idled all of its commercial reactors. Five have since been allowed to resume operation and the central government is pushing hard for more restarts.

At a meeting of the Lower House Foreign Affairs Committee on May 12, Shunichi Tanaka, chairman of the Nuclear Regulation Authority, admitted that the nation’s nuclear power plants haven’t taken any particular measures against the EMP threat.

Tanaka said the effects of an EMP attack “are not assumed” under nuclear safety regulations and that the NRA would only order the plants to shut down if war broke out.

 

[ctg]

YouTube has shut down two North Korean propaganda channels that academics use to monitor and assess the regime’s missile programs.

Stimmekoreas, the number one YouTube channel on North Korea with more than 20,000 subscribers, and Uriminzokkiri, which had more than 18,000 subscribers, regularly posted of videos of state TV news clips and other footage, attracting millions of views.

On Friday they were terminated for violating YouTube’s community guidelines.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/08/youtube-north-korea-propaganda-terminated

 

[ctg]

The US will embark on an aggressive effort to tighten North Korea’s isolation on Monday with a call for an oil embargo and a partial naval blockade.

A draft United Nations resolution seen by the Observer would also block textile exports and the hiring of North Korean labour by foreign countries. The American delegation has called for the UN security council to debate the draft, in an attempt to force decisive action following last Sunday’s massive nuclear test of a bomb, Pyongyang’s sixth.

The most striking language in the resolution authorises naval vessels of any UN member state to inspect North Korean ships suspected of carrying banned cargo and to use “all necessary measures to carry out such inspections”. The implications of such a resolution would be far-reaching. Any attempt to board or divert a North Korean vessel could trigger an exchange of fire.

As well as banning any exports of “crude oil, condensates, refined petroleum products, and natural gas liquids” to North Korea, the draft resolution calls for a prohibition on the import of textiles and an end to the hiring of North Korean nationals, on the grounds that the regime uses the foreign currency earned “to support its prohibited nuclear and ballistic missile programmes”.

Both Russia and China employ cheap North Korean labour. In Russia they work in logging camps and construction sites, helping build a new football stadium in St Petersburg that will be used in the World Cup next year.

The US draft measure would also freeze the assets of Kim Jong-un and the top leadership in Pyongyang.

Such a dramatic tightening of the economic vice is likely to meet resistance from China, which is anxious to avoid driving its embattled neighbour to the point of complete collapse; and Russia, which is promoting itself as a broker in the Korean standoff and has suggested that a new set of sanctions is “premature”.

“Up to now, the Chinese and the Russians have tried to keep on giving the US just enough to keep Trump playing the UN game,” said Richard Gowan, an expert on the UN at the European Council for Foreign Relations. “The question is what happens with an extraordinarily hardline resolution and US pressure to do something quickly.”

Gowan believes that “the Chinese are willing to consider some measures”, adding that the Russians are unlikely to veto a resolution on their own. However, any compromise resolution is likely to fall a long way short of the US draft measures, in terms of its impact on North Korea.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/09/trump-urge-un-north-korea-naval-blockade-oil-embargo

 

[Vonka]

Öljyn hinta pompsahti Pjonjangissa. Mutta eipä siellä oikein kellään ole autoakaan.

 

[Vonka]

Kiinan maajoukot ovat harjoitelleet Korean rajan lähellä matalalla lentävien ohjusten torjuntaa.¨

As tensions continue to mount following North Korea’s latest nuclear test, the Chinese military has conducted another drill near the Korean Peninsula.

According to the South China Morning Post (SCMP), a Hong Kong-based publication, on Tuesday a Chinese ground unit practiced shooting down simulated low flying missiles over Bohai Bay. Bohai Bay is “ the innermost gulf of the Yellow Sea between China and North Korea,” the report noted. Although few details were given, including which defense systems were used, Chinese websites indicated the test sought to simulate a surprise attack in a realistic, warfighting scenario.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/china-just-sent-big-military-warning-north-korea-22234

 

[Torrakko]

Kiinan maajoukot ovat harjoitelleet Korean rajan lähellä matalalla lentävien ohjusten torjuntaa.¨

As tensions continue to mount following North Korea’s latest nuclear test, the Chinese military has conducted another drill near the Korean Peninsula.

According to the South China Morning Post (SCMP), a Hong Kong-based publication, on Tuesday a Chinese ground unit practiced shooting down simulated low flying missiles over Bohai Bay. Bohai Bay is “ the innermost gulf of the Yellow Sea between China and North Korea,” the report noted. Although few details were given, including which defense systems were used, Chinese websites indicated the test sought to simulate a surprise attack in a realistic, warfighting scenario.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/china-just-sent-big-military-warning-north-korea-22234

En tiennytkään, että Kiinalla on ollut 250000 miehen armeija P-Korean rajan tuntumassa.

Öljyn tuleminen loppui virallisia teitä pitkin mutta on kyllä vahva tunne, että epäviralliset reitit ja salakuljettajat on kiireisiä. Tai sitten ei. Käsittääkseni armeijalle siellä kaikki tavara menee ja sitten vasta siviileille.

 

[Lepukki]

Kiinan maajoukot ovat harjoitelleet Korean rajan lähellä matalalla lentävien ohjusten torjuntaa.¨

As tensions continue to mount following North Korea’s latest nuclear test, the Chinese military has conducted another drill near the Korean Peninsula.

According to the South China Morning Post (SCMP), a Hong Kong-based publication, on Tuesday a Chinese ground unit practiced shooting down simulated low flying missiles over Bohai Bay. Bohai Bay is “ the innermost gulf of the Yellow Sea between China and North Korea,” the report noted. Although few details were given, including which defense systems were used, Chinese websites indicated the test sought to simulate a surprise attack in a realistic, warfighting scenario.

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/china-just-sent-big-military-warning-north-korea-22234

Sisäpolitiikkaa? Pakko reagoida, ettei oman kansan turvallisuudentunne järky.

 

[Teräsmies]

Sisäpolitiikkaa? Pakko reagoida, ettei oman kansan turvallisuudentunne järky.

P-korean lähistöllä on aina ollut paljon joukkoja ja tuollaisia harjoituksia siellä järjestetään melko usein. Viime vuosien suurin muutos lienee se, että vanhempaa kalustoa on alettu korvaamaan uudemmalla.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Theater_Command
https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/shenyang-mr.htm

 

[aj77]

Analysointia ainoan kaverin puheista millä on painoarvoa. Mattis puhuu, niin silloin kuunnellaan.
Hän ei sanonut että Usa saattaa iskea p-koreaan vaan, että Usa tulee iskemään jos ei pelleily lopu. Siinä on painoarvoa. Hän sanoi että eivät tule tuhoamaan maata joten todennäköisesti isku on massiivinen kohteena ydinlaitokset yms. Kunnon voimannäyttö.

P-korealla ei välttämättä ole liikkumavaraa kuten luulisi. Tänään se on uhkaillut viimeksi liittyen pakotteisiin, mutta siihen se saattaa jäädä.
Jokainen voi päätellä itse jutun perusteella.

http://www.businessinsider.com/jim-...m&utm_campaign=buffer-politics&r=US&IR=T&IR=T

 

[PekkaSavo]

Käykös niin että kun Yhdysvallat vastaa P-Korean provokaatioon niin Kiina tulee pohjoisrajan yli? Halusipa P-Korea sitä tai ei ..

 

[Osasto 31]

Mitä Kiina itse on sanonut, he puuttuvat asiaan ainoastaan jos USA hyökkää ensin.

 

[aj77]

Usan ilma-isku joka päätty yhtä nopeasti kuin alkoi ei välttämättä vielä laukaise Kiinan vastatoimia. Usan ilmaisku on kuitenkin vastaus johonkin. Ei se lämpimikseen tule.

 

[jurppi]

Usan ilma-isku joka päätty yhtä nopeasti kuin alkoi ei välttämättä vielä laukaise Kiinan vastatoimia. Usan ilmaisku on kuitenkin vastaus johonkin. Ei se lämpimikseen tule.

Tällainen ilmaisku antaa oikeutuksen myös vastaiskuun. Sellainenkin saattaa alkaa ja loppua yhtä nopeasti.

 

[aj77]

Usan entinen Seals kertoo ratkaisun. Satelliitilla ilmainen wifi maahan ja 25-miljoonaa iphonea pudotuksin alueelle. Tilanne ratkaistu.
Käytännössä on mahdollista alkaa syöttämään mustanpörssin kautta älypuhelimia maahan. Torit sekä, mustapörssi on maassa yleistä. Katsotaan sormien läpi.

 

[KaneA]

Usan entinen Seals kertoo ratkaisun. Satelliitilla ilmainen wifi maahan ja 25-miljoonaa iphonea pudotuksin alueelle. Tilanne ratkaistu.
Käytännössä on mahdollista alkaa syöttämään mustanpörssin kautta älypuhelimia maahan. Torit sekä, mustapörssi on maassa yleistä. Katsotaan sormien läpi.

Satelliiteilla wifi? Aika pitkä kantomatka 2,4GHz-5GHz taajuudelle Sanoisin et aika utopistinen suunnitelma, jos taivaalta sataisi iPhoneja niin Kiminä tekisin kostoiskun suvereniteetin loukkaamisesta.

 

[oml]

https://www.telia.fi/yrityksille/tuotteet/liittymat/nettiliittymat/satelliittilaajakaista
https://www.kauppalehti.fi/uutiset/...ajakaista-lupaa-takuuvarman-yhteyden/abRUDYT3
Satelliittinetti on ihan todellisuutta, mutta vastaanotto vaatii satelliittilautasen joten pelkällä kännykällä ei pärjää.