Korean Sota Osa II ?

A certain green and yellow train has set off a firestorm of speculation over whether North Korean leader Kim Jong-un is in China on his first trip abroad. The trip, which would be Kim’s first to China since taking power in 2011, comes before historic meetings with his counterparts in South Korea and the United States.

According to footage captured by Japan’s Nippon TV, the distinctive olive green train with yellow stripes looks similar to one used by Kim’s father, Kim Jong-il, when he visited China in 2011, shortly before his death.

Japan’s Kyodo News earlier reported that a “special train” carrying a high-level Korean official, possibly Kim, had been spotted in the north-eastern Chinese border city of Dandong. Nippon TV showed footage of the train arriving in Beijing on Monday.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/27/kim-jong-un-and-the-mystery-of-the-special-green-train

Korkea-arvoisten pohjois-korealaisten vieraiden käyttämä majatalo Pekingissä on viime päivät ollut erityisen kiinnostuksen kohteena. Majatalo on tiettävästi ollut mm. Pohjois-Korean johtajan isän, Kim Jong-ilin suosima majapaikka Pekingissä.

Talo on ollut tarkkaan vartioituna ja sen itäportilta on nähty poistuvan kiinalaisten autosaattue hallituksen toimistorakennusten sekä kahden juna-aseman suuntaan.
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https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10134976
 
Viimeksi muokattu:
Arrest warrants have been issued for two South Korean army colonels allegedly involved in clandestine political cyber-operations under the administration of former president Lee Myung-bak, who was himself arrested on corruption charges on Thursday.

The two colonels, who have not been named, were indicted on Tuesday for an operation that sought to manipulate public opinion on sensitive political issues by posting online comments on news sites in support of Lee Myung-bak’s government and attacking its critics.

The defence ministry announced South Korea’s military court had issued the warrants alleging the colonels ran a secret team, known as Sparta, during Lee’s presidential rein from 2008 to 2013.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-korean-colonels-over-political-cyber-attacks

Mielenkiintoista. EKlla oli salainen cyberpumppu, jo viime vuosikymmenellä mutta kukaan ei tiennyt tästä. Jos ymmärsin oikein heidän kohteensä oli Kiina PKn sijasta.
 
Oho. Maailmankirjat sekaisin.

Pohjois-Koreassa kuohuu: Kim Jong-unia vastustava graffiti ilmestyi puoluepalatsin seinään

KASPERI SUMMANEN | 27.03.2018 | 13:35- päivitetty 27.03.2018 | 15:01
Pohjois-Korean viranomaiset jäljittävät maan johdon arvostelijaa.
Keskeisen hallintorakennuksen seinään Pohjois-Korean pääkaupungissa Pjongjangissa on Daily NK:n mukaan ilmestynyt diktaattori Kim Jong-uniakritisoiva graffiti. Pohjoiskorealaisittain käsittämättömän riskialtis tempaus on saanut viranomaiset takajaloilleen.
Uutissivuston paikallisten lähteiden mukaan viranomaiset on pantu tapauksen vuoksi hälytystilaan ja tunnelma pääkaupungissa on kireä.
Viesti kirjoitettiin Huhtikuun 25. päivän kultturitalon ulkoseinään maaliskuun alussa. Sen tarkasta sisällöstä ei ole tietoa. Viestin kirjoittajaa kuitenkin etsitään kuumeisesti. Turvallisuusviranomaiset ovat muun muassa teetättäneet pjongjangilaisilla käsialatestejä. Erityisesti kaupungissa epävirallisesti asuvia henkilöitä tutkitaan.
Mikäli pohjoiskorealaislähteitä on uskominen, otetaan graffititapaus hyvin vakavasti. Kim Jong-unin kerrotaan määränneen Pohjois-Korean turvallisuuspalvelun aloittamaan kuukauden mittaisen propagandakoulutuksen, jolla pyritään varmistamaan, että viranomaiset pysyvät ruodussa.
– Vaikuttaa siltä, että ideologisten ”häiriöiden” välttäminen (puoluepiireissä) on tärkeämpää kuin graffitin tekijän löytäminen, eräs nimettömänä pysyttelevä pohjoiskorealaislähde sanoo.
1970-luvun puolivälissä valmistunut masiivinen Huhtikuun 25. päivän kulttuuritalo on Pohjois-Koreaa hallitsevan työväenpuolueen tärkeimpiä kokousrakennuksia. Siellä järjestettiin kaksi viimeisintä työväenpuolueen puoluekokousta eli kongressia. Kulttuuritalo tunnettiin pitkään Pohjois-Koreassa myös ”kongressisalina”. Rakennus oli myös Koreoiden vuoden 2007 huippukokouksen avajaisten näyttämönä.
Kulttuuritalo toimii Pohjois-Korean armeijan kulttuuritapahtumista vastaavan toimiston päämajana. Se järjestää merkkitapahtumat kuten esimerkiksi valtionpäämiesten hautajaiset ja viralliset valtiolliset seremoniat.
Kimin klaanin henkilökultti on Pohjois-Koreassa erittäin vahva ja sitä varjellaan tiukasti. Maan johdon arvostelu yksityistilaisuuksissakin voi johtaa vakaviin seurauksiin.
– Joku selvästi koki, että julkisen tyytymättömyyden ilmaiseminen viestillä hallintorakennuksen seinässä oli riskin arvoista, eräs aiemmin korkeassa virassa toiminut pohjoiskorealaisloikkari kommentoi.
Hänen mukaansa tällaista on aiemmin sattunut vain tehtailla tai yliopistoissa. Entinen viranomainen pitää tekoa merkittävänä.
Toinen pohjoiskorealaislähde Pjongjangissa vahvistaa maaliskuun graffititapauksen ja kertoo, että vastaavaa on sattunut myös tammikuussa

https://www.verkkouutiset.fi/pohjoi...ava-graffiti-ilmestyi-puoluepalatsin-seinaan/
 
Kim Jong-Un tosiaan on vierailulla Kiinassa.
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North Korean leader Kim Jong Un has made his first foreign trip since assuming power in 2011, meeting China's President Xi Jinping in Beijing and discussing giving up the country's nuclear weapons, according to Chinese state media.

Kim, who made the surprise trip to the Chinese capital at Beijing's request, said he felt compelled to personally inform President Xi of the rapid diplomatic developments on the Korean Peninsula in recent weeks, Xinhua reported.

The visit represents stunning shift for Kim, who appears to be fashioning himself as a leader in search of a peaceful solution to the crisis on the Korean Peninsula. It's in sharp contrast to 2017, when Kim oversaw a string of missile and nuclear tests that drew the ire of the international community.
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https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/27/asia/north-korea-kim-jong-un-china-visit/index.html
 
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kaikkihan ne kinkkilän politbyrookaaderit värjää hiuksensa mustiksi ja käyttää huulipunaa, lisäksi jong un maalaa kulmakarvansa ja käyttää korkokenkiä.
 
North and South Korea have agreed to hold a leaders’ summit on 27 April that will be only the third-ever such meeting.

Senior officials of the two Koreas met on Thursday to prepare for a rare inter-Korean summit, days after the nuclear-armed North’s leader Kim Jong-un made his international debut with a surprise trip to China.

Kim is due to meet South Korean President Moon Jae-in late April at the truce village of Panmunjom in the demilitarized zone, followed by landmark talks with US President Donald Trump which could come as early as May.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...t-south-korea-president-at-summit-on-27-april

Jokin asia varmaan repeää jos nämä keskustelut hajoavat koeräjäytykseen. Uskoin, että se kävisi pääsiäisen tienoilla. Ei mulla ollut mitään uskoa että keskusteluihin oltaisiin päädytty. Jos hyvin käy niin tuomiopäivän kello käännetään taaksepäin.
 
Leaderwolf kirjoitti:
Kiinan ja Pohjois-Korean johtajien tapaaminen - Kim Jong-un kuin ujo koulupoika Kiinan presidentin edessä

Kehonkielen asiantuntija purkaa Kiinan ja Pohjois-Korean johtajien tapaamisen sanattomat yksityiskohdat, jotka kertovat paljon kaksikon voimasuhteista.

https://m.iltalehti.fi/iltvuutiset/201803300081826_v0.shtml
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On tuossa kyllä vähän kyökkipsykologiaa mukana. Esim. mainitaan, että kunniakomppanian tarkastuksen aikana Kiinan ja PK:n presidentit eivät keskustele keskenään, vaan kävelevät rinnakkain hiljaisuudessa ja sitten näytetään, kuinka Etelä-Korean tapaamisessa johtajat jutustelivat kävellessään. Unohdetaan pikku yksityiskohta eli se, että he eivät puhu samaa kieltä. Kunniakomppanian tarkastuksessa ei ole tulkkeja mukana, joten ei voida keskustella. Etelä-Koreassa taas heillä on yhteinen kieli, joten voidaan jutustella. Ja sitten tästä vedetään johtopäätöksiä, että Kiinan presidentti ja PK:n presidentti eivät tule toimeen keskenään, kun eivät juttele mukavia.
 
One of the oddest things about the current flurry of diplomacy with North Korea is that it has played out like a game of telephone: South Korean officials dined with Kim Jong Un in Pyongyang and then flew to Washington, D.C., bearing a message that Kim was willing to discuss “denuclearization,” which inspired Donald Trump to agree to an unprecedented summit this spring with the North Korean leader, which motivated the North Korean leader to hop on a train to Beijing this week, which prompted Chinese President Xi Jinping to update Trump on how the visit went, which led the American president to tweet this morning that he’d heard the meeting “went very well and that KIM looks forward to his meeting with me.”

Through it all, North Korea itself has remained conspicuously silent, at least in public. Hopes for a resolution to the North Korean nuclear crisis have thus largely been pinned on a stream of whispers. As of this writing, the North’s state-run Korean Central News Agency features news of Kim’s trip to China and dialogue with South Korea, of the issuing of tea-themed postage stamps, and the invention of a fancy new “automatic meteorological observation device,” but no mention of any North Korean commitments to denuclearization.

Kim’s promises this week were conveyed second-hand through a report from China’s state-run news agency Xinhua, which includes two direct quotes from Kim Jong Un. In the first, he stated that his position on his nation’s nuclear-weapons program is in line with that of his father and grandfather: “It is our consistent stand to be committed to denuclearization on the peninsula, in accordance with the will of late President Kim Il Sung and late General Secretary Kim Jong Il.” In the second, he declared that the “issue of denuclearization of the Korean peninsula can be resolved, if South Korea and the United States respond to our efforts with goodwill, create an atmosphere of peace and stability while taking progressive and synchronous measures for the realization of peace.”

For a guided reading of Kim’s rare public remarks, I turned to Sue Mi Terry, a former Korea analyst at the CIA who is now a senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. She said it’s significant that Kim spoke not of removing nuclear weapons from North Korea, but rather of the “denuclearization of the Korean peninsula,” as a whole. That formulation by the Kim government is “not new,” Terry told me, and has been accompanied in the past with demands for measures to preserve the regime’s security such as the signing of a peace treaty to finally end the Korean War, the withdrawal of U.S. troops from South Korea, and the end of the U.S.-South Korean military alliance, which in turn would terminate the protection the United States extends to South Korea through its nuclear weapons. Hence, talk of a nuclear-free peninsula despite the fact that South Korea doesn’t have nuclear weapons. (In this respect, Kim was right to assert that he was simply echoing the policies of his father, who was also quoted by Chinese media as committing to the denuclearization of the peninsula even as he persisted in developing the nation’s nuclear-weapons arsenal.)

While it’s notable that Kim didn’t specifically reference security guarantees during his trip to Beijing, Terry said she’d need to see more statements from North Korea, and not just a one-off quote filtered through the censored Chinese press, to conclude that the North is now willing to trade away its nuclear program for anything less than the United States abandoning South Korea.

Terry interpreted Kim’s call for South Korea and the United States to exhibit “goodwill,” establish an “atmosphere of peace,” and take “synchronous measures” as a suggestion that he would only move towards denuclearization in response to concessions from both South Korea and the United States—specifically, relief from the severe international sanctions that the Trump administration has imposed on North Korea.

“There’s a lot there” and none of it is particularly “revelatory,” Terry said. It’s not “North Korea is willing to give up its nuclear-weapons program.” Instead, it’s hedged language that the North can always retreat from. North Korea has shifted tactics in pausing its nuclear and missile testing and agreeing to direct nuclear talks with the United States, perhaps because U.S. economic pressure and threats of military force “spooked” Kim and made him scramble to “buy time,” Terry explained. But there aren’t strong signs yet of a strategic shift.
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http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2...ization-mean-kim-jong-un/147068/?oref=d-river
 
Foreign Minister Taro Kono on Saturday suggested there are signs North Korea is preparing to hold another nuclear test even as tensions on the Korean Peninsula ease ahead of a rare summit between the two Koreas.
The North appears to be “working hard to get ready for the next nuclear test,” Kono said in a lecture in Kochi, referring to the removal of soil from a tunnel at a site where past tests were conducted.



His remarks might be based on satellite imagery provided by the United States.
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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2...t-despite-thaw-japans-taro-kono/#.WsBQd3OU80N
 
For a couple of weeks in March, after the announcement that Donald Trump had accepted an offer to meet with Kim Jong Un, the outcome of the crisis over North Korea’s nuclear weapons seemed to depend on whether two leaders who had steered their nations toward war could pump the brakes and broker peace. Then, this week, Kim boarded a train to Beijing and scrambled the whole map.

The North Korean leader’s friendly meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping—his first encounter with another head of state—doesn’t necessarily place Trump in a weaker position heading into nuclear talks with Kim later this spring, said Yun Sun, the director of the China Program at the Stimson Center. But it does make Trump’s position far more complicated. China, which is North Korea’s neighbor, treaty ally, and nearly exclusive trading partner, has reasserted itself as a “central player” in the negotiations.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/03/kim-jong-un-china-trump/556802/

“Last week the assumption was that North Korea’s relationship with China was very bad, so going into the [Trump-Kim] summit we could assume that North Korea would be more desperate to have a deal,” Yun said, in reference to the ways in which Kim Jong Un’s weapons tests in defiance of Chinese objections and China’s retaliation with economic sanctions had poisoned ties between the two countries in recent years. Now North Korea has more leverage: “The more options North Korea has, the less isolated North Korea is, the less able the U.S. will be to coerce North Korea in any direction.”
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Despite a visible and encouraging thaw in relations between North Korea and South Korea, Pyongyang appears to be readying a move that could torpedo upcoming talks with the US and bring about an all-out war.

The move in question isn't a missile launch, which has often stoked tensions, but a satellite launch — and it demonstrates how fraught talks between the US and North Korea have become.

The US and North Korea have previously entered into talks with the goal of North Korea's denuclearization, but more often than not, North Korea blows up a deal by launching a satellite vehicle.
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http://uk.businessinsider.com/north...d-torpedo-talks-bring-us-war-2018-4?r=US&IR=T
 
North Korea is almost certain to complete development within 18 months of ballistic missiles capable of reaching the UK, according to a Commons defence select committee report. The report says the missiles could potentially carry nuclear warheads and it says the UK has only a limited ballistic missile defence capability.

But it adds a crucial caveat: “The Ministry of Defence does not consider that the UK will be a target of North Korean nuclear missiles, as its regime does not believe the UK to be a threat.” The focus of North Korean military planning is mainly the US and South Korea, it says.

“If there were a conflict in the region, the UK would have no legal obligation to provide military assistance. Yet, in the event of North Korean aggression against South Korea and/or against the United States, it is unlikely we would stand aside.”
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/apr/05/north-korea-likely-missiles-reach-uk
 
North Korea has promised the US it is ready to discuss the future of its nuclear arsenal when the two nations' leaders meet, US officials say.

Preparations for the summit have included secret, direct talks with North Korea, unnamed Trump administration sources said.

US and North Korean intelligence officials are said to have spoken many times, and met in a third country.

The unprecedented summit is slated to happen in May.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43693528
 
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North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has publicly acknowledged talks with the US for the first time, according to state media reports.

US President Donald Trump agreed last month to talks with Mr Kim, but Pyongyang had been silent on the summit.

Mr Kim mentioned the "prospect" of dialogue between North Korea and the US at a meeting of party officials.

Details of the proposed meeting, including timing, remain unclear.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-43708165

With a million-man army, a bevy of intercontinental ballistic missiles and a growing nuclear arsenal, North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un has sought to project the image of a powerful leader who can face off against President Trump and China’s Xi Jinping.

Yet as he prepares for a possible summit with Trump next month, it’s not clear that Kim possesses another piece of crucial hardware for the aspiring global negotiator — an airplane that could reliably fly him across the Pacific Ocean or to Europe without stopping.

“We used to make fun of what they have — it’s old stuff,” said Sue Mi Terry, who served as a senior CIA analyst on Korean issues during the George W. Bush administration. “We would joke about their old Soviet planes.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d6fd6fe32ce8
 
\o/ Voidaan vihdoinkin sitten pistää loppu tälle sodalle. Toivottavasti säilyttävät pätkän tuota DMZ aluetta turisteille.

North and South Korea are in talks to announce a permanent end to the officially declared military conflict between the two countries, daily newspaper Munhwa Ilbo reported Tuesday, citing an unnamed South Korean official.

Ahead of a summit next week between North Korean premier Kim Jong Un and South Korean President Moon Jae-in, lawmakers from the neighboring states were thought to be negotiating the details of a joint statement that could outline an end to the confrontation.

Kim and Moon could also discuss returning the heavily-fortified demilitarized zone separating them to its original state, the newspaper said.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/17/north-and-south-korea-reportedly-set-to-announce-official-end-to-war.html?__source=twitter|main
 
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