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@Juna112Porojetsiin

Valitan surkeaa laatua, tämä oli ainoa kuva jonka löysin:

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Juuri sama loota.
 
@Juna112Porojetsiin

Valitan surkeaa laatua, tämä oli ainoa kuva jonka löysin:

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Jees, juuri tuo minullakin oli ajatuksissa.. tosin en muista että se olisi juuri käsikranaattien säilyttämiseen ollut osoitettu - mikä ei tarkoita sitä etteikö sitä olisi jopa osoitettu. Minulle ei vain juuri tuosta jäänyt sitä muistoa. Ennemmin suklaa(fazerin sininen) tai mehupullo tms. Noissa ammustelineissä kulki hyvin myös iso cokis-pullo.

Karmeen näköinen tuo vaunu sisältä, .. aika raiskattu.
 
The Russian Way of War -julkaisusta elektronisen sodankäynnin yksiköiden kalustoa.

Dr. Lester W. Grau
Charles K. Bartles
Foreign Military Studies Office
2016
Joku postasi tänne linkin, imuroin talteen, ja hyvä oli, koska nyt en löydä sitä linkkiä. Joka tapauksessa, vaikuttaisi erittäin vakavasti otettavalta tiedonlähteeltä.

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R-378AM Automated HF Communications Jammer System


The R-378AM High Frequency (HF) communications jammer is designed for the detection, finding direction, and of enemy HF radio frequencies. These HF frequencies may be tactical command and control links at fixed frequencies with conventional waveforms, in programmable and automatic frequency tuning modes, as well as for transmitting short encoded messages. The jammer also provides analysis and selection of emitters’ signal parameters.

Operating frequency range 1.5 – 30 MHz

Panoramic scan rate 480 MHz/s

Jamming output power 1.0 kW

Narrowband 3.0; 10.0; 20.0; 50.0

Response rate (from detection to jamming) 15 ms

Multitarget jamming capability up to 5

Deployment time less than 40 minutes

Scan rate up to 7,000 MHz/s

Detection-to-suppression time less than 5 ms

Frequency hopping signal detection up to 300 hop/s

Crew 4

Truck chassis Ural-43293



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R-330B/R-330T Automated VHF Jamming System


The upgraded R-330B/R-330T Very High Frequency (VHF) jamming system is designed for detection, direction finding and jamming of VHF communication may be tactical command and control links at fixed frequencies with conventional waveforms, in programmable and automatic frequency tuning modes, as well as for transmitting short encoded messages. The jamming system provides analysis and selection of emitters’ signal parameters. The R-330B/R-330T VHF jamming system consists of an equipment vehicle on a wheeled (R-330T) or tracked (R-330B) chassis, a diesel electric power station mounted on a two-axle trailer (R-330T), or MT-Lbu armored tracked chassis (R-330B).


Frequency range 30–100 MHz

Transmitter power 1 kW

Jammed RF links (at fixed frequencies) 3

Jammed RF links (wit frequency hop) 1

RMS direction-finding error not more than 3 degrees

Azimuth search coverage 360 degrees

Types of received signals AM, FM, CW, SSB, ISB, FSK, PSK, keying, PFT

Scan rate up to 7,000 MHz/s

Detection-to-suppression time less than 5 ms

Frequency hopping signal detection up to 300 hop/s

Crew 4

Truck chassis Ural-43293


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R-934B VHF/UHF Aircraft Communications Automated Jamming Station


The upgraded R-330B/R-330T Very High Frequency (VHF) jamming system is designed for detection, direction finding and jamming of VHF communication may be tactical command and control links at fixed frequencies with conventional waveforms, in programmable and automatic frequency tuning modes, as well as for transmitting short encoded messages. The jamming system provides analysis and selection of emitters’ signal parameters. The R-330B/R- 330T VHF jamming system consists of an equipment vehicle on a wheeled (R-330T) or tracked (R-330B) chassis, a diesel electric power station mounted on a two-axle trailer (R-330T), or MT-Lbu armored tracked chassis (R-330B).


Frequency range 100-400 MHz


Transmitter power 500 W

Jammed RF links (at fixed frequencies) 4

Jammed RF links (wit frequency hop) 1

RMS direction-finding error not more than 3 degrees

Time of deployment 30 minutes

Crew 3

Types of jamming signals:

— high-frequency signal modulated in frequency by noise with deviation of 800 and 6000 Hz

— high-frequency signal modulated in frequency shift of 5, 10, 20 and 40 kHz and unit intervals of 150 and 800 μs

— high-frequency signal manipulated in phase (0–180°) with discretization of unit elements of 800 μs
 
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P-330ZH "Zhitel" Automated Jamming Station


The P-330ZH "Zhitel" automated jamming station provides for the automated detection, direction finding and signal analysis of radio emission sources in the designated operating frequency range. The system is capable of disrupting finding mobile ground stations (user terminals) of the "INMARSAT", "IRIDIUM," and GSM-900/1800 satellite communication systems, and the "NAVSTAR" (GPS) satellite navigation system. and the base stations cellular communication system. These signals are completely suppressed within a radius of 20-30 kilometers from the operating station. The P-330ZH "Zhitel" can operate under an automated command post, or operate independently.


Frequency range 100-2000 MHz


Transmitter power 10 kw

Suppression range 20-30 km

RMS direction-finding error not more than 2 degrees

Time of deployment less than 40 minutes

Crew 4


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R-330B/R-330T Automated VHF Jamming System


The SPR-2 (Rtut-B) jamming station is designed to protect friendly troops and equipment against artillery fire equipped with radio proximity fuses by causing premature detonation. The station is powered by a dedicated generator (primary source) or onboard electric system (standby source). The SPR-2 station is mounted on an armored personnel carrier chassis, and can operate on the move.


Protected area .5 km


Frequency range 95-420 MHz

Energy potential not less than 300 W

Deployment times less than 4 minutes

Crew 2



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RP-377L (LORANDIT) Compact Multifunctional Radiomonitoring, Direction- Finding And Jamming Complex


The RP-377L (LORANDIT) Compact Multifunctional Radio monitoring, Direction- Finding and Jamming Complex provides for the search of, position location, and jamming of VHF/UHF radio electronic communications. The RP-377L complex can be vehicle mounted or placed in two cases and four canvas bags, and be carried by 2-3 persons. Depending on mission requirements, multiple complexes can work together, with one complex configured as a command post.


Frequency range (search and detection) 20-2000 MHz


Frequency range (direction and finding) 25-2000 MHz

RMS direction-finding error not more than 3 degrees

Instant monitoring bandwidth 180-1200 kHz

Types of searching signals FM, AM, SSB, FSK, PSK

Transmitter output greater than 100 W

Deployment time 15 minutes



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R-330K Mobile Automated Command Post


The R-330K Mobile Automated Command Post is designed for centralized control of automated jamming stations, such as R-330T, R-378A, R-934B. The R-330K Automated Command Post consists of protected computers with special software in a local area network, radios, data transfer equipment to synchronize automated jamming stations cycles, an embedded electric generator, as well as life-support system.

Controlled jamming stations up to 20 stations


Deployment time less than 40 minutes

Crew 4

Communication links (radio relay) 2

Communication links (wire) 4

Transport chassis Ural-43203 truck

Power consumption not greater than 8 kW



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Borisoglebsk-2


The Borisoglebsk-2 is one of Russia’s newest tactical EW systems, and started replacing the R-330 "Mandat" in 2012. Although there have been few published details about the characteristics of the replace the Borisoglebsk-2, it reportedly can suppress twice the frequency bandwidth of its predecessor in the HF and UHF bands, 100 times faster. There are also reports that the capability to disrupt mobile satellite communications and radar navigation systems. The system is mounted on an MT-LBu chassis. (extended length)




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RB-531B Infauna


The RB-531B Infauna is intended primarily to provide protection from radio controlled mines and explosive devices, and disrupt enemy tactical communications. The RB-531B Infauna is mounted on a modified BTR-80 chassis, has a crew of two, operates in the 20-2020 MHz frequency range, and is in use by the Russian VDV.
 
Sama lähde.

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Orlan-10


Range: 50 - 120 km


Flight Duration: 10 hours

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 15 kg

Maximum Payload: 5 kg

Wingspan: 3.1 m

Length: 1.8 m

Speed. 75-170 km/h

Maximum Altitude: 6000 m

Fuel: A-95 Gasoline

Operating Temperature: -35C to + 40C

Takeoff: Catapult

Landing: Parachute



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Granat


Range (Full Motion Video): 10 km


Range (Camera): 15 km

Flight Duration: 75 minutes

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 2.4 kg

Payload: Camera or Video

Wingspan: 82 cm

Speed. 60 km/h

Maximum Altitude: 1500 m

Fuel: Electric

Operating Temperature: -35C to + 40C

Takeoff: Catapult or Hand Launched

Landing: Parachute
 
Tässäpä mielenkiintoista kuvausta venäläisten tekemästä koneellisesta miinoittamisesta.
Etenkin tuo koneellinen sirotteiden kylväminen jalkaväkeä vastaan on syytä tietää. Tarvittaessa voivat omaa selustaansa tai sivustojaan suojatessaan vetää hyvinkin nopeasti tieverkkoa hyväksi käyttäen isoja sirotekenttiä.

UMZ-3 Universal Mine Layer

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Designed by the USSR in the late 1970s, the UMZ was adopted by the Soviet Army in the early 1980s, and consists of six individual launcher units each containing 30 tubes. From within the truck cabin the operator can manually adjust the tilt angle and rotation of each launcher unit before dispensing mines. The UMZ can deploy multiple mine types, and is capable of carrying different types simultaneously so as to set mixed anti-personnel and anti-tank minefields. Below are the maximum numbers of each mine type the UMZ can carry, assuming only one type of mine is loaded.
Mine Type Maximum Qty.
PTM-3 anti-tank 180
PTM-1 anti-tank 540
POM-2 anti-personnel 720
POM-1 anti-personnel 1440
PFM-1S anti-personnel 11520



The depth (or width) of the minefield produced can range between 15 and 240 metres, with the launch unit capable of laying these at a speed of up to 40 km/h. Depending on the tilt angle of each launcher unit, the UMZ can lay a one, two or three-lane minefield in one pass. In so doing, the maximum length of the minefield is a half or third of the minefield lengths given below.

Mine Type Minefield length
PTM-3 anti-tank 600 metres
POM-2 anti-personnel 5000 metres
PFM-1S anti-personnel 3200 metres
http://armamentresearch.com/ukrainian-operated-umz-mine-laying-system-in-ukraine/
ja
http://bsvt.by/en/umz-multipurpose-mine-laying-vehicle

The Russians prefer short, but deep, minefields to long, shallow ones which may lack stopping power. Brigade armored minelayers can lay a quick 1000 meter minefield in three panels of approximately 3,000 meters, 1000 meters and 300 meters from the forward edge of the battle area in under ten minutes. The three GMZ-3 tracked mining vehicles of the obstacle platoon can lay a 1,200-meter, three-row minefield, containing 624 mines, in 26 minutes.. The Russians prefer to lay minefields shortly before an enemy advance to prevent enemy knowledge of their location. Defensive antitank minefields laid out sometime before the battle are normally 200-300 meters wide and 60-120 meters in depth with four rows per minefield. These minefields are carefully surveyed and placed on likely avenues of approach. Antipersonnel minefields
are placed on likely dismounted infantry avenues of approach. They are located in front of fighting positions or in gaps between fighting positions and are 30-300 meters wide and 10-50 meters deep. They usually contain a mixture of blast and fragmentation mines.

Placing mines by hand is time-consuming and the Russians employed the UMZ-3 remote mine delivery system for deploying antipersonnel mines, as well as antitank mines. UMZ stands for universal’ogo minnogo zagraditelya (universal mine-layer). The UMZ consists of six firing
modules mounted on the back of a ZIL 131 truck. Each module has thirty firing tubes, so the UMZ has 180 firing tubes. Depending on the type minefield desired, the UMZ can lay from 180 to 11,520 mines without reloading. The UMZ can launch an antitank or antipersonnel minefield 30-60 meters from itself while the truck is driving from 10 to 40 kilometers per hour. It takes two men from one and a half to two hours to reload the UMZ. One UMZ can lay a three row minefield stretching from 150 to 1,500 meters long, depending on the mine that is used. The UMZ can be used to restore a breached or depleted minefield during combat.31 Command detonated mines are often placed directly in front of fighting positions. As time and resources permit, Russian engineers construct minefields within the defensive positions to slow and canalize an enemy attack, support a fire line or protect the flanks of the defense or a counterattack. Engineers also mine roads, bridges and fords and likely water crossings.

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Tämä on telamiinojen kylvöön.
GMZ-3 Tracked Mine Layer
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Etenkin noiden kuorma-autojen lasti mahtaa lähteä hätäseen, kun KES:llä vähän kutittelisi. Miten kestävät epäsuoran sirpaleita ja käsiaseiden tulta?
 
Arvattavasti räjähdysaine on trotyyliä. Jota on suhteellisen vaikea saada räjähtämään. Tutussa telamiinassakin on virikepanos sitä varten.
Näinhän se on. Mietin vain, että tuollaisessa kuormassa on paljon sytyttimiäkin sirpaleen tai luodin tiellä.
 
Näinhän se on. Mietin vain, että tuollaisessa kuormassa on paljon sytyttimiäkin sirpaleen tai luodin tiellä.

Luulen, että alusta tuhoutuu ennemmin. Jos se syttyy palamaan, niin sitten voisi olettaa että räjähdys on vain ajankysymys.
 
Ollaanpa ajan hermolla. Näitä on tiettävästi tuotu Viron rajan tuntumaan harjoittelemaan. Vanhaa rautaa, mutta on näemmä herätelty palvelukseen. Hidas tulinopeus, mutta murkulalla tehoa.
9 hengen miehistö ei ole panssarin suojissa tulitoiminnassa.
2S4 Tulpan
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10 in active service. 410 in storage. Valmistettu 1969-1988.

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The 2S4 Tyulpan is fitted with a 240 mm mortar. The 240 mm smoothbore mortar, designated the 2B8, is carried complete with its baseplate in the horizontal position on top of the hull and is pivoted at the rear. In firing position, the mortar baseplate rests on the ground. The 240 mm mortar has powered elevation from +50 to +80º with powered traverse of 10º left and right. Just behind the driver position, there is small turret for the commander which is equipped with an externally mounted 7.62 mm PKT machine gun. The mortar is fired by either electrical or mechanical means and two basic types of 240 mm mortar bomb are fired. A conventional high-explosive fragmentation bomb (3OF-864), which weighs 130 kg and has a maximum range of 9,650 m, and a high-explosive fragmentation rocket-assisted projectile weighing 228 kg with a maximum range of 18,000 m.
Minimum range is 800 m.
The 240 mm mortar has powered elevation from +50 to +80º with powered traverse of 10º left and right. The rate of fire at +60° elevation is 1 round in 62 sec. and 1 round every 77 sec. at +80°. The 240 mm mortar system is aimed with a hydro-electric drive system by remote control. The mortar system 2S4 Tyulpan can fire a wide range of bombs as conventional high-explosive fragmentation, with a weight of 130 kg and has a maximum range of 9,5 km, high-explosive fragmentation rocket-assisted projectile with a weight of 228 kg and maximum range of 18,000 m, nuclear and chemical munitions. Mortar bombs are kept in two drums located along the hull sides.

https://www.armyrecognition.com/rus...pecifications_description_pictures_video.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S4_Tyulpan

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Hyvää teknistä tietoa tässä filmissä.


 
Venäjä harjoittelee järeillä 240 mm 2S4 Tjulpan -kranaatinheittimillään Viron lähellä. Nämä ja järeät 203 mm 2S7M Malka -telakanuunat aktivoitiin reservistä viime vuoden puolella jossain määrin yllättäen.
Voitko kertoa tuosta Malka-telakanuunoiden aktivoinnista lisää, kappalemäärät? Tässä ketjussa? Mennyt minulta nimittäin ohi.
Ei mitään tietoa, miten luotettava tämä sivusto on, mutta sen mukaan versiota 2S7M tehtiin alun perin 66 kpl. 2000-luvulla useimmat pantiin reserviin.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/USSR/2s7-pion
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/USSR/2s7-pion
Wikin mukaan taas aktiivikäytössä olisi 20 kpl. Huomatkaa muuten erot alkuperäisversion valmistusmäärissä, 500-1.000 kpl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S7_Pion
 
Voitko kertoa tuosta Malka-telakanuunoiden aktivoinnista lisää, kappalemäärät? Tässä ketjussa? Mennyt minulta nimittäin ohi.
Ei mitään tietoa, miten luotettava tämä sivusto on, mutta sen mukaan versiota 2S7M tehtiin alun perin 66 kpl. 2000-luvulla useimmat pantiin reserviin.
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar/USSR/2s7-pion
Wikin mukaan taas aktiivikäytössä olisi 20 kpl. Huomatkaa muuten erot alkuperäisversion valmistusmäärissä, 500-1.000 kpl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S7_Pion
Tämän vuoden maaliskuulta (maininta tässä viestissäni, jossa rivien välissä viittaus @vlad:n viestiin jossa asiasta mainittiin ensimmäisen kerran), kappalemääristä ei ollut sen enempää tietoa:

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/forces/content/201703201230-cohv.htm
Jutussa tosin puhutaan 2S7 Pionista mutta todennäköisesti kyseessä on sen päivitetty versio 2S7M Malka (tällaista tulkintaahan ei tietenkään pitäisi tehdä jos jonkinlaista virallista tiedustelukoostetta tekisi).
 
Viimeksi muokattu:
Jutussa tosin puhutaan 2S7 Pionista mutta todennäköisesti kyseessä on sen päivitetty versio 2S7M Malka.
Niin, minua kiinnostaa suuresti juuri tuo. Ulkoisestihan nuo ovat varmaan hyvin samannäköisiä, jos luotamme tanks-encylopediaan, niin:
Modernization under the code “Malka” (2S7M) started in the 1980s with the 84B multifuel engine and changes to the engine-transmission compartment. In February 1985, an upgraded chassis was tested as well, and the range was superior. Digital displays with automatic data reception were later received and ammo storage modified, up to 8 rounds. The loading system was also possible vertically. The vehicle could fire up to 2.5 rounds per minute. New control equipment was also adopted for the electrical and hydraulic power units. The crew was reduced to 6.

Käytettävissä olevien tietojen mukaan Malkoja oli 66. Ja Pionit on työnnetty muille entisille neuvostotasavalloille. Siksi olisikin huolestuttava merkki, jos uudelleen riviin tuodut olisivatkin oikeasta näitä vanhempia Pioneja. Niitä ei A) pitäisi edes olla Venäjällä, B) mikä ylipäänsä ajaa Venäjää ottamaan uudelleen käyttöön kalustoa, joka on varmasti hyvin hankalasti henkiin herätettävää. Valmistautuvat kahakkaan jossain päin.
Eniten kulmani kohoaisivat, jos lukumäärät kasvaisivat tuosta mainitusta...
 
Niin, minua kiinnostaa suuresti juuri tuo. Ulkoisestihan nuo ovat varmaan hyvin samannäköisiä, jos luotamme tanks-encylopediaan, niin:
Modernization under the code “Malka” (2S7M) started in the 1980s with the 84B multifuel engine and changes to the engine-transmission compartment. In February 1985, an upgraded chassis was tested as well, and the range was superior. Digital displays with automatic data reception were later received and ammo storage modified, up to 8 rounds. The loading system was also possible vertically. The vehicle could fire up to 2.5 rounds per minute. New control equipment was also adopted for the electrical and hydraulic power units. The crew was reduced to 6.

Käytettävissä olevien tietojen mukaan Malkoja oli 66. Ja Pionit on työnnetty muille entisille neuvostotasavalloille. Siksi olisikin huolestuttava merkki, jos uudelleen riviin tuodut olisivatkin oikeasta näitä vanhempia Pioneja. Niitä ei A) pitäisi edes olla Venäjällä, B) mikä ylipäänsä ajaa Venäjää ottamaan uudelleen käyttöön kalustoa, joka on varmasti hyvin hankalasti henkiin herätettävää. Valmistautuvat kahakkaan jossain päin.
Eniten kulmani kohoaisivat, jos lukumäärät kasvaisivat tuosta mainitusta...
Nyt kun vielä miettii tarkemmin, niin kyse oli kuitenkin Venäjän puolustusministeriön tv-kanava Zvezdan jutusta, joten se vähentää todennäköisyyttä sille, että kyseessä olisi ollut toimittajan lapsus.

Venäjähän oli toimittanut ilmeisesti nimenomaan vanhempaa 2S7 Pionia Azerbaidzaniin 2008 ja 2009, joten kaiketi niitä jossain laarin pohjalla vielä voi olla.
http://today.az/news/politics/75210.html
 
2S7 Pion
2S7 Pion (Пион - suom. Pioni) on alkujaan Neuvostoliitossa suunniteltu ja valmistettu telakanuuna. Ase tunnetaan myös nimillä Malka sekä M-1975. Neuvostoliiton hajottua näitä telatykistöaseita päätyi Venäjän ohella esimerkiksi Georgiaan, Valko-Venäjälle ja Ukrainaan.
Pääaseen kaliiperi on 203 mm. Aseelle kehitettiin myös M-1975-nimellä oleva sisarase 2S4 Tyulpan (Tulppaani) -telamörssäri, joka ampuu 240 mm epäsuoraa tulta.
2A44-tyypin kanuunaa käyttävä 2S7 Pion yltää 37 kilometrin enimmäiskantamaan. Poikkeuksellisesti muista vastaavista saman tyypin aseista 2S7 Pion ei käyttänyt hidasteena suujarrua. Normaali miehistömäärä on seitsemän henkeä. Vaunun 12-sylinterinen dieselmoottori on takana ja miehistön tilat edessä.
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S7_Pion

Täällä taas puhutaan näin:
Ordinary HE-FRAG projectile weights 110 kg and contains 17.8 kg of explosives. It has a maximum range of 37.5 km. The rocket-assisted projectile weights 103 kg and contains 13.8 kg of explosives. It has a maximum range of 47.5 kg.
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/2s7_pion.htm
Voisiko veli @Old Boy tunnettuna tykistöasiantuntijana avata tuota suujarrun puuttumista, ja tuon ajan rakettiavusteista tykistöammusta NL:ssä? Vieläköhän käytössä?

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