Ukrainan konflikti/sota

TBman kirjoitti:
Tarve on vähintään 30 kertainen.
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Ei edes riitä. 18-tykkisen patteriston tuliannos on meillä julkisista lähteistä poimittuna 1080 murkulaa per päivä. Rheinmetallin tuotanto riittää yhden 12-tykkisen patteriston päiväkäyttöön. Rheimetallin kuulilla ammutaan 8 iskua päivässä 18-putkisella patteristolla.
 
ak.tied kirjoitti:
Ei edes riitä. 18-tykkisen patteriston tuliannos on meillä julkisista lähteistä poimittuna 1080 murkulaa per päivä. Rheinmetallin tuotanto ei riitä edes 12-tykkisen patteriston päiväkäyttöön. Rheimetallin kuulilla ammutaan 8 iskua päivässä.
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Aivan.
Putkia pitäisi olla kilometri toisensa jälkeen pitkin rintamaa, joten ammuksiakin pitäisi olla vastaavasti kunnon rumputul3n ylläpitämiseen.
 
Venäjä vahvistanu isosti Pokrovskin suuntaan.
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Clement Molinin ketju tuosta Pokrovskin-Dobropillian suunnan kehityksestä.
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Ukrainalaisten liikkeistä hyvin perillä oleva v_stus kirjoittelee Dovropilyan tilanteesta seuraavaa:

I do not believe that the enemy threw everything into the battle before the negotiations with Trump and is trying to capture as much as possible.

The fact is that the occupiers are gradually reaching the peak of their capabilities + transferring part of the group from Sumy region to other directions (mainly Pokrovsko-Dobropil').

Therefore, what seems like a significant breakthrough in a few days was long in coming, when the enemy had captured Koptevo and was advancing in the Novoekonomichesky area.

Then the prerequisites were created, and now the breakthroughs have begun.

Basically, most people are not interested in reading about the "no-name village". And that is where what later results in the "breakthrough to Dobropil' is laid.

For our part, we significantly strengthened the area, but due to the transition period between the transfer of responsibilities from the OTU to the corps and the division of sections into corps, a new chaos arose in management.

Therefore, that reinforcement will play its role later. And so far - we have significant breakthroughs.

A little later I will write in more detail about that chaos.

And for now, the best thing we can all do together is to give the defenders in the Pokrov-Dobropol direction a hand!

The guys are doing everything possible and impossible!
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Joidenkin huhujen mukaan Ukraina olisi vahvistanut Pokrovskin aluetta kolmella prikaatilla (tai osilla)..
 
baikal kirjoitti:
Muistanko oikein, että saksa ampui 2.ms 200 milj. Kranaattia itärintamalla? Muistan varmaan väärin.
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Kysyin Grokilta. Sakujen kulutus 1. MS oli 222 miljoonaa kranaattia. 2. MS yksin Kurskissa ampuivat arviolta noin 1,25 miljoonaa kuulaa ja Grokin kokonaisarvio itärintaman kulutukseksi 1941-1945 logistiset ja tuontorajoitteet huomioiden 500-700 miljoonaa.

Grok kertoi, että yleisesti käytetty arvio kaikkien osapuolien ampumaksi kranaattimääräksi 2. MS aikana on noin 1,5 miljardia laukausta, eikä arvio sisällä heittimiä kun sitä erikseen pyysin tarkentamaan.
 
ak.tied kirjoitti:
Näyttäisi olevan 12 km pitkä toi haarukka Deepstaten työkalulta mitattuna. Ja kapea.

Tuohonhan pitäisi tökkiä sivuista ja lopulta tykistöllä siivota pois, antaa örkit tunkee sinne massa reilusti ensin. Jos siihen ei kykyä, niin sitten näyttää huonolta.
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Muistetaan että deepstate on hyvin pro-Ukraina ja näyttää tilanteet usean päivän viiveellä. Artur Micek (lähteet Ukrainassa) kommentoi tätä vielä hälyttävämpään sävyyn. Nuo kylät mitkä luetellaan tekevät tästä kärjestä lähes 10km levyisen.

Unfortunately, there will be bad news from Ukraine.

In the last 72 hours, a disaster occurred on the Ukrainian side on the front between Kramatorsk and Pokrovsk. Local sources tell me that the situation north of Pokrovsk is worse than the Deep State is reporting. This is confirmed by numerous Ukrainian and Russian sources, reports from the area, and information published by local residents. This information is also confirmed by a number of analysts and journalists.

There are many indications that the Russians are entering an operational space practically free of Ukrainian troops.

In recent days, Kyiv has deployed special forces here, including several assault units and air forces, which means the situation must have been truly dire for such a move to be made.

The Russians have managed to definitively break the front in the area of responsibility of the Ukrainian 33rd Mechanized Brigade. This is no longer in dispute.

In some places, Russian forces advanced 12 to even 17 kilometers in just 2-4 days. Currently, the Russians have occupied the villages of Vilnius, Kucheriv Yar, Zoloty Kolodyaz, Rubizhne, Vesele, and Hruzke. This is already confirmed to me.

The Ukrainians have already stopped road traffic on the route from Dobropole to Kramatorsk, as the Russians have de facto reached it. They may have even crossed it today and are continuing their advance towards Novoyavlenka.

Currently, Russian reconnaissance groups have been seen in the area of the villages of Hannivka, Novovodyane, Novotroyitsky, and Novomykolayivka.

The Ukrainians are hastily evacuating a number of villages in the area of Dobropole and south of the line between Starovarvariivka, Serhiivka, and Druzhkivka.

If the Ukrainians don't commit numerous reserves, at least two brigades in size, to the fight here within 48 hours, the situation for Ukrainian forces defending the entire sector from Oktyabrska through Konstantynivka to Chasiv Yar could become very dire.

This is the largest crisis on the Ukrainian front since the battles at Rubizhne and Ocheretyne. I haven't seen such a dire situation since then.

Why are the Russians so successful? Because a number of Ukrainian fortifications and minefields were not manned by infantry.

We will likely soon witness the first maneuver battles on the Ukrainian front in a long time. The Ukrainians must close this breach—otherwise, we may even face a battle for the approaches to Kramatorsk sooner than everyone imagined.
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putkirassi kirjoitti:
Money talks.... mutta väärä raha väärässä käytössä. Joku on voideltu, no varmaankin viimeisen kerran, on sen verran lyhyet jäljet tämmöisessä tapauksessa.
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Tulee mieleen se ehkä vuoden vanha (väitetty) tapaus, jossa joukkojen rotaatio oli mennyt käteen ja vetäytyvä joukko oli lähtenyt vastuualueelta ennen vapauttavaa joukkoa. Venäläiset olivat sitten ottaneet ilmaiseksi.
 
Entinen Azov-prikaatin nokkamies (ei enää aktiivipalveluksessa) osoittaa postauksessa viestin suoraan Zelenskyille. Hänen kartassa tilanne näyttää karmealle.

Mr. President,
I honestly don’t know what exactly you are being told, but I can tell you: the Pokrovsk-Konstyantynivka line is, without exaggeration, a complete mess. And this mess has been growing for a long time, getting worse every day.

Those commands that are now being appointed (or have already been appointed) to “fix the irreparable” are most likely to blame for the mess that is already happening. The line of combat contact as a permanent line does not actually exist.

Pokrovsk and Myrnograd are almost surrounded. Kostyantynivka is semi-encircled. The enemy is advancing in the direction of Kramatorsk and Druzhkivka.

The problem has been increasing since last year. They warned about this publicly, and that is exactly what happened. The cause of this problem is not the newly created corps, which inherited a failed situation with subordinate understaffed units, and not the OTU or OSUV, which for the past year and a half have actually not managed anything, but only transmitted orders “in accordance with the order from the General Staff”.

The systemic problem began with the elimination of reserves, the massive fragmentation of units along the entire front line, reports about the “taken village” as a victory against the backdrop of failures in entire directions, the distribution of mobilization resources to “godfathers”, as well as the absolute absence of a strategic and even operational vision of the theater of operations in parts of the military leadership.

I am an officer, and I have a concept of dignity. My conscience is clear. I have finished my report.

To all the officers who accepted the “rules of the game”, I don’t know what to tell you. I don’t understand you.
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Vähän nyt alkaa uhkaavasti näyttää siltä että vuoden lopussa jännätään että kestääkö Harkova-Pavlohrad-Zaporizzia linja koska Slovianskin, Kramatorskin ja Pokrovskin jälkeen ukeilla ei oo kirjaimeillisesti vittu yhtään mitään ennen Dneprin rannan isoja kaupunkeja. Sitä jotenkin olis kuvitellu et uket olis hankkiutunu eroon tästä vanhasta neukkukomentopaskasta mut näemmä ei, Pokrovskin alueen paikallinen johto on totaalisen epäpäteviä idiootteja ja väärän tilannekuvan takia mm. da Vinci- ja Puma-erikoisyksiköitten osia heitettiin suoraan ryssien jyrän alle.

Mitä nyt oo useempia postauksia tilanteesta lukenu ni nyt on oikeesti tosi kyseessä, ryssät on 25 kilsan päässä Kramatorskista ja ryssien ei tartte edes hyökätä suoraan kun voivat vetää Kramatorskin ja Slovianskin mottiin selustasta.
Situation in the Dobropol area, part III.
In a sudden, unexpected map update, the DS marked another major advance by the Russian 132nd Rifle Brigade Zmot in the Kucheriv Yar and Zoloty Kolodyaz areas.

At the same time, in a post on the tg account, he wrote: "The enemy, taking advantage of the constant pressure and numerical superiority of the infantry, managed to enter the towns of Kucheriv Yar and Zoloty Kolodyaz. They are gathering forces there to continue the attack. Along the way, the Russians are trying to strengthen themselves and create new positions. Additionally, from Kucheriv Yar, breaking through the forested areas, they entered the town of Vesele, where they are also gathering troops. In the last 24 hours alone, about twenty soldiers have been observed in this village. At the same time, the enemy is not stopping there and continues the attack towards the Dobropillia-Kramatorsk road, strengthening itself in the area of Novovodyane and Petrivka. Unfortunately, the enemy has identified weak points which they are exploiting to further advance. The situation is chaotic, because the enemy, finding gaps in the defense, is moving deeper into the territory, trying to quickly consolidate and gather forces for a further attack. At the same time, some commanders of a certain brigade either do not understand the gravity of the problem, or they present the situation as "controlled," claiming that "everyone was killed, everyone was detained."

However, the soldiers themselves, who are defending those positions and trying to understand what is happening, disagree with this. My quick comment on this. DS's post should be interpreted as a cry for help, an attempt to appeal to civilian factors and directly to General Syrski. Apparently, DS analysts suspect that the command of the brigade not mentioned by its number is transmitting false reports about the situation in its area of responsibility. Which ZSU brigade could they be referring to? I'm not sure, but I suspect the 33rd Infantry Brigade. Based on the obituaries I found from the last two weeks, the following group of Ukrainian units from the 33rd Infantry Brigade (1st ZMOT battalion) fought in the Nowe Szachowe - Kucheriv Yar area. Obituary of a soldier who died in Nowe Szachowe. Possibly also the 2nd or 3rd Mech battalion, in accordance with the ZSU's rule of operating half-brigades, but there is no obituary. 1st Assault Regiment "Da Vinci" (obituaries of a soldier from its 2nd Battalion and a former 86th Battalion incorporated into the 1st Regiment in June 2025) - Nowe Szachowe 25th Assault Battalion itself - Nowe Szachowe 150th Reconnaissance Battalion - Special Unit "Puma" - obituary from Kucheriv Yar. The large representation of assault and special units is noteworthy. This suggests that the higher command of the OSG "Khortytsa" (Dnipro) was aware of the crisis in this sector and sent reserve special and assault units there. General Syrski also had to consent to the use of some of them (1st Assault Regiment, 25th Assault Battalion) because they are directly subordinate to him.So did Syrski and Drapaty actually not know what was going on there, as DS is trying to suggest? I have serious doubts.

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Omnipotentti kirjoitti:
Se pitää kato heggsethin eka perua että trumpetti voi sitte perua perumisen ja saada jo luvattujen toimitusten toimittamisen näyttämään aktiiviselta.. sitten kun Trump toimittaa jotain uutta ja merkittävää niin ollaan otettu joku askel, mutta en pidätä hengitystä, positiivisen yllätyksen otan mielelläni vastaan!
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Onneksi en pidätellyt hengitystä. Farssimarssin tahtiin tivoli pyörii..
 
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Toivottavasti trumpetti nyt ymmärtää Lindsayn viestin... Ei mitään myönnytyksiä tappajadiktaattorille!
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Pahoin pelkään, että Trumpin kiima hinnalla millä hyvänsä sammuttaa kaikki heti, johtaa vain uusiin tulipaloihin.
 
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