Ukrainan konflikti/sota
Meinaatko et fudis kärsii siitä et yksi seura vaihtaa omistajaa? Vai mitä meinasit tällä kun kommentoit @ctg:n laittamaa lainausta "man Abramovich, the oligarch Russian owner of Chelsea football club, said he will hand over stewardship of the club."
Ryhmässämme keksittiin heti, että yksi syy voi olla välttää ukrainalaisten farkkutaistelijoiden huomiota. Auttanee hieman yöllä, jos ajoneuvot ajavat yksittäin tai pienissä ryhmissä.
Näen nuo ottoajoneuvot epätoivoisena maskirovkana. Symmetrisestä epäsymmetriseen ja kohta kukaan ei tiedä, mikä on sotilaskohde > loputon sota, joka kuluttaa enemmän Ukrainaa.
Eli turboahdettu versio 2014 tapahtumista. Tämä ei tosin enää toimi, kun Venäjä paljasti kasvonsa.
Mie luulen et tästä tulee hyvä loppu viel. Maailma ilman Putinia ei voi olla huonompi paikka ainakaan. Ja Putte sai EU:n vihdoin toimimaan yhdessä jossain edes vaikka kyllä siinä kesti liian kauan mielestäni. Kuolema Putinille ja rauha Ukrainaan. Samalla Lukan voisi joku laittaa hengiltä kanssa.
rty19
Greatest Leader
Tarkoitin sitä että vaikka en Chelsean toimintaa erityisen tarkasti seuraakaan, en ole kuullut että joukkuetta olisi kehitetty mitenkään negatiiviseen suuntaan. Veikkaan että joukkueen kannattajat samaa mieltä. Nyt omistaja joutuu kärsimään maansa johtajan imperiumisuunnitelmista. Toisaalta olen lukenut että Venäjältä löytyy paljon Ukrainan sodan kannattajia, vähän "make Russia great again" tyyliin. Ihan sama mitä tuo muille maille merkitsee. Saa nähdä muuttuuko tuo asenne kun pakotteet alkavat kunnolla tuntua Venäjällä. Jos ei, niin EU-maiden pitää tosissaan ruveta varautumaan itäimperiumin seuraaviin laajentumisyrityksiin.
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Kersantti
Epäilen vähän kuinka hyvin tollanen epäsymmetrinen säheltäminen sopii Venäjän tähän äärimmäisen symmetriseen doktariiniin.
Venäjä johtaa näitä joukkojansa ylhäältä alaspäin jossa missään asiassa on hyvin vähän tulkinnanvaraa puolivälin komennolla. Jos tohon sotkuun alkaa heittää jotain harvakseltaan mistä lie tulevia siviilipakuja sekaan, niin voi luoda enemmän hämmennystä ja omien tulitusta, kuin mitään varsinaisia oikeita hyötyjä.
Venäjä kuiteskin tarvitsee tähän sen doktariiniin hyvin suurella voluumilla sitä tavaraa ja hyvin säännöllisesti, jotta punakone jaksaa puksuttaa. Se että satunnaisesti tulee jotain siviiliautollisia varustusta on enemmän miten Ukrainan kaupunkipuolustusten piiritysten alaisena olettaisi järjestävän logistiikkansa, eikä Venäjän jolla kuiteskin tavoitteena vielä on suuret, pitkän rintaman massiiviset taistelut isolla määrällä aktiivista mekaniikkaa.
Veikkaisin että ihan samanlaisessa letkassa nuo tulee menemään kuten muutkin Venäjän logistiikat tähänkin saakka, eivätkä yritä mitään ninjailuja.
Tämä oli erinomainen kirjoitus, mutta sitä en ymmärtänyt, että miksi tuon kirjoittajan piti läiskäistä siihen alkuun, että tämä on FSB:n analyytikon tekstiä? Kirjoitus ei sisällä lainkaan salaista tietoa, vaan koko analyysi on tehty puhtaasti julkisista lähteistä saadun tiedon perusteella. Meillä lukijoilla ei ole mitään mahdollisuutta varmistua, että tällä jutulla on mitään tekemistä kenenkään FSB:n palkkalistoilla pyörivän kanssa.Ottakaa muuten lukuun kahvikupposen kera: Aikamoinen fsb raportti, käännetty lontooks
My translation of the analysis of the current situation in Russia by an active FSB analyst. Buckle up for a long thread and definitely please share far & wide. The full text is over 2000 words. This is a highly insightful look behind the curtain - covers many subjects.
i will add clarification comments inside parenthesis where necessary. So, let's roll:
"I have hardly slept at all these days, at work at almost all times, I have brain-fog. Maybe from overworking, but I feel like I am in a surreal world.
The Pandora’s Box is open – a real global horror will begin by the summer – global famine is inevitable as Russia and Ukraine are main producers of wheat. (MY COMMENTARY: I disagree that this will result in global famine.)
I can’t say what guided those in charge to decide to proceed with the execution of this operation (Ukraine invasion), but now they are methodically blaming us (FSB). We are being scolded for our analysis. Recently, we have been increasingly pressured to prepare more reports.
All of these political consultants and politicians and the powers-that-be are causing chaos. Most importantly, no one knew that there will be such a war – it was concealed from everyone.
For example – you are being asked to analyze various outcomes and consequences of a meteorite attack on Russia (MY COMMENTARY: Here he most likely means the West’s sanctions) –
So you research the mode of attack, and you are being told that it’s just a hypothetical and not to stress on the details, so you understand the report is only intended as a checkbox for some bureaucrat, and the conclusions of the analysis must be positive for Russia,
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
otherwise you basically get interrogated for not doing good work. So, you have to write that we have all necessary measures available to nullify the effects of a given type of attack. We are completely overworked.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
But then it turns out that the hypothetical has turned into reality, and the analysis we’ve done on that hypothetical is total trash. We have no answer to the sanctions because of this. No one knew there’d be such a war, so no one prepared for these sanctions.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
It’s the flipside consequence of the secrecy – since everyone was kept in the dark, how could we prepare for it?
Kadyrov has gone nuts. We (FSB) were very close to a conflict with him because the Ukrainians claimed to having received intel from the FSB on his squad in Kyiv.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Kadyrov's squad was absolutely demolished before they even had a chance to fight and they got blown to pieces. I do not have any info that it was an FSB leak to Ukraine, so I’d give it a 1-2% chance – but can’t exclude this possibility completely.
Our Blitzkrieg has totally collapsed. It is impossible to complete the task: If Zelensky and his deputies were captured in the first 3 days, all key buildings also captured, and they were forced to read an address of their surrender to the country,
then Ukraine’s resistance would have likely dissolved to a minimal level. Theoretically. But then what? Even in this IDEAL outcome, there remained an unsolvable problem: Who is the counterparty to our negotiations?
If we remove Zelensky – fine – who is going to sign the agreement? If Zelensky signs, then that agreement is worthless after we remove him. ОПЗЖ (The Opposition Party in Ukraine collaborating with Russia) has refused to cooperate.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
To occupy? Where would we find that many people? Commandant’s office, military police, counter-intelligence, security – even at minimum resistance from the Ukrainians, we’d need over 500,000 people, not including supply & logistics.
There’s a rule - if you try to cover for bad quality leadership with quantity, you’ll make everything worse. And I repeat this would be the problem in the IDEAL SCENARIO, which does not exist.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
And what now? We cannot announce general mobilization for two reasons: 1) Mobilization will implode the situation inside Russia: political, economic, and social.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
2) Our logistics are already over-extended today. We can send a much large contingent into Ukraine, and what would we get? Ukraine – a territorially enormous country, and their hate towards us is astronomical.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Our roads simply cannot accommodate the resupply of such convoys, and everything will come to a halt. And we can’t pull it off from the management side because of the current chaos. These two reasons exist concurrently, although just one of them is enough to break everything.
With regards to Russian military losses: I don’t know the reality – no one does. There was some information the first 2 days, but now no one knows what is happening in Ukraine. We’ve lost contact with major divisions. (!!
They may re-establish contact, or may dissipate under an attack, and even the commanders don’t know how many are dead, injured, or captured. Total dead is definitely in the thousands, maybe 10,000, maybe 5,000, or maybe just 2,000.
But even at our command no one knows. But probably closer to 10,000 Russian soldiers killed. And we are not counting losses at DNR & LNR.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Now even we kill Zelensky or take him prisoner, nothing will change. The level of hate toward us is similar to Chechnya. And now, even those loyal to us in Ukraine are publicly against us.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Because all of this was planned at the top (in Russia), because we were told that such a scenario will not happen (Ukraine invasion) except only if we were to be attacked first.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Because we were told that we need to maximize our threats in order to negotiate an outcome through peace. Because we were already preparing protests against Zelensky in Ukraine without ever considering invading Ukraine.
Now, civilian losses in Ukraine will follow a geometric pattern progression, and resistance against us will only get stronger. Infantries already tried to enter cities – out of 20 paratrooper groups, only one had “provisional” success.
Recall the invasion of Mosul. It’s a rule – happens with every country, nothing new. To siege? Over the last decades in Europe – Serbia being the best example, cities can remain functional under siege for years. Humanitarian convoys from Europe to Ukraine is only a matter of time
Our conditional deadline is June. Conditional because in June there will be no economy left in Russia – there will be nothing left.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
By and large, Russia does not have an out. There are no options for a possible victory, only of losses – this is it. (BREAK FOR NOW, WILL CONTINUE POSTING TRANSLATION IN A BIT)
(THIS UPCOMING 2nd HALF IS ARGUABLY MORE INTERESTING AND ENDS WITH A PLEASANT SURPRISE) "100% we’ve repeated our mistake from last century, when we decided to kick the “weak” Japan in order to achieve a quick victory, and it turned our army was in a state of total calamity.
Then, we started a war till the victorious end, then we started conscripting the Bolsheviks for re-education in the army. Then these barely-known Bolsheviks picked up their anti-war slogans and started doing such things...
From the pluses: We did everything to ensure there wasn’t even a hint that we sent penal military units to the front. If you conscript political prisoners and the socially undesirables, the moral spirit of the army will be in the negative.
The enemy (Ukraine) is motivated. Monstrously motivated. Knows how to fight, plenty of capable commanders. They have weapons and support. We will simply establish a precedent of human catastrophe in the world.
What we are afraid of the most: The top is trying to mask old problems with new problems. Largely for this reason Donbass happened in 2014 – We needed to distract the West from the Russian Spring in Crimea, so Donbass’ so-called crisis had to pull in all of the West's attention
and become a bargaining chip. But even bigger problems started there. Then we decided to pressure Erdogan to get 4 pipes for the Southern Stream (gas) and entered Syria.
This is after Suleimani (Islamic Revolutionary Guard) knowingly provided false info to us to solve his own problems. As a result, we couldn’t resolve the problem with Crimea, and Donbass’ problems didn’t go away.
Southern Stream was reduced to 2 pipes (gas), and Syria is hanging – we leave and Assad will be toppled and we will look like idiots, and staying there is hard and pointless.
I don’t know who come up with the “Blitzkrieg of Ukraine.” Had we received all the real inputs, we would have at minimum pointed out that the initial plan is arguable, and that much has to be reassessed. A lot had to be reassessed.
Now we are in crap (PG language mine) up to our necks, and we don’t know what to do. “Denazification” and “demilitarization” are not analytical categories because they don’t have concretely formulated parameters by which meeting of the objectives can be evaluated.
Now we are stuck waiting until some mentally screwed up advisor convinces the top to start a conflict with Europe, with demands to reduce the sanctions – they either loosen the sanctions or war.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
We are plowing to create a scenario to blame everything on Ukraine. Naryshkin (Director of Foreign Intelligence Service of Russia) and his SVR is digging the ground to prove that Ukraine was secretly building nuclear weapons. F*&K.
They are hammering at what we’ve already analyzed and closed the book on: We can’t just make up any evidence or proof and existence of specialists and Uranium. Ukraine has a ton of depleted isotope 238 – this is nothing. The production cycle is such that you can’t do it in secret
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
A dirty bomb can’t be created in secret. Ukraine’s old nuclear power plants can only produce the material as a by-product in minimal amounts. The Americans have such monitoring at these plants with MAGATE that even talking about this is stupid.
Do you know what will start in a week? Let’s let it be even in 2 weeks. We are going to be so screwed we will start reminiscing about the good ol’ hungry days of the 90s.
As the markets are being closed, Nabiullina appears to be taking the right steps, but it’s like plugging holes on a ship with your fingers. The situation will break through anyway and even stronger. Nothing will be solved in 3 or 5 or 7 days any longer.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
Kadyrov is kicking his hoofs not without reason. They have their own adventures. He created a name for himself as the invincible – and if he falls down once his own people will remove him.
Next. Syria. “Guys – hold on, everything will end in Ukraine and then we will fortify our positions in Syria.” And now at any moment our contingent stationed there may run out of supplies, and then ridiculous heat will come….
Turkey is closing the strait, and sending supplies to Syria by air is the same as heating an oven with cash. Please note – this is all happening at the same time, and we don’t even have time to throw it all in one pile for analysis.
Our current position is like Germany in 1943-1944 – but that’s our STARTING position in Ukraine. Sometimes I get lost in this overwork, sometimes it feels as if this is just a dream and all is as it was before.
With regards to prisons – it will get worse. The nuts will start to get tightened till blood. Everywhere. To be frank, purely technically, this is the only way to maintain any control of the situation.
We are already in total mobilization mode. But we can’t remain in this mode for long, but our timetables are unknown, and it will only get worse. Governance always goes astray from mobilization. And just imagine: You can sprint 100m – but try that in a marathon.
And so, with the Ukrainian question we lunged as if going for a 100m sprint, but turned out we’d signed up for a marathon. And this is a rather brief overview of the current events.
To offer further cynicism, I don’t believe that Putin will press the red button to destroy the entire world. First, it’s not one person that decides, and someone will refuse. There are lots of people involved in the process and there is no single “red” button.
Experience shows that the more transparent the control procedures, the easier it is to identify problems. And where it’s murky as to who controls what and how, but always files reports full of bravado, is where there are always problems.
https://twitter.com/igorsushko
I am not sure that the “red button” system functions according to the declared data. Besides, plutonium fuel must be changed every 10 years.
Third, and this is the most disgusting and sad, I personally do not believe in Putin’s will to sacrifice himself when he does not even allow his closest ministers and advisors to be in his vicinity.
Whether it’s due to Putin's fear of COVID or a possible assassination is irrelevant. If Putin is scared for the most trusted people to be near him, then how could he possibly choose to destroy himself and those dearest to him? ( END OF TRANSLATION )
Koska näin, niin miksei hän saman tien esitä juttuaan vain raakasti omissa nimissään? Tuo FSB:hen vetoaminen on laiskaa auktoriteettiin vetoamista, kun jutussa esitetyt argumentit kyllä kestävät kritiikkiä ihan omillaan. Jopa sen, että kirjoittaja epäilee Venäjän ydinaseiden toimivuutta hän sanoo perustuvan julkaistuun (ei salaiseen) tietoon aseiden ylläpidosta. Tuo olisi ollut ehkä se ainoa kohta, jossa todellakin olisi voinut olla mullistavaa, jos joku Venäjän valtion tilasta tietävä toisi julkisuuteen, että sen ydinaseet eivät todennäköisesti toimi, vaikka julkisesti niiden ylläpidon väitetään olevan tip top kunnossa.
fulcrum
Greatest Leader
"Luokaton" on ehkä väärä sana, koska se antaa ymmärtää ettei vastustaja ole osaava. Syyriassa on kuitenkin joka puolella todella taitavia sodankäyjiä. Esimerkiksi ISIS oli parhaimmillaan todella taitavaa porukkaa.
Lähinnä on niin ettei tällaiset joukkiot osaavinakaan omaa kalustoa tai henkilöstöä joka tekisi niistä vakavasti otettavan vastuksen todella suurille sotilasmahdeille.
. Omaan silmään ei osunut, että olis ollut täällä. BBC video kopterin pudotuksesta hyvällä kuvalaadulla:
Taisteluorava
Korpraali
Tätähän Vennäinmaalla jo harjoiteltiin muutama vuosi sitten.
Venäjä aikoo testata internetistä irtautumista tänä keväänä
Venäjä on vuosien ajan pyrkinyt luomaan oman verkkoinfrastrukstuurin globaalin internetin rinnalle.
yle.fi
Taisteluorava
Korpraali
On ollu jo ainakin pariin otteeseen. Hieno video silti.
stunt cock
Kapteeni
Noissa venäjällä kuvatuissa junakuvissa näkyy maansiirtoautoja myös. Olisikohan ajatus alkaa tekemään tiestölle pikakorjauksia tai muita maanrakennuskalustoa vaativia linnoitus yms toimia?
Lamautettu vaan ei tuhottu
stunt cock
Kapteeni
Mites se mosulin valtaus about vahvennetun pataljoonan kokoisella joukolla? Ei se ISIS:n toiminta aina ollut sekoilua.
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Helpottaa kun puolustajat juoksevat kilpaa karkuun. Mutta ei enempää offtopiccia.
fulcrum
Greatest Leader
Juu ei todellakaan. Hämmästyttävän taitavaa jengiä parhaimmillaan: arvasin että joku kaivaa vastaukseksi esiin tuon videon
Paljonhan heillä oli myös häröporukkaa jonka suurin käyttöarvo oli ajaa räjähteillä lastattu paku vihollisen linjaan.ISIS oli jotakuinkin ensimmäisiä maailmassa jotka käyttivät droneja jalkaväen aseena ryhmätasolla. Ja strateginen kyky edetä ja valloittaa oli hämmästyttävä. 'Kalifaatti' taisi olla parhaimmillaan jotain Portugalin kokoinen.
Sehän se on juuri se fiksuin tapa vallata...