Ukrainan konflikti/sota

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Harkovalaiset riemuitsivat venäläissotilaiden lähdöstä, mutta samalla huoli sukulaisten ja ystävien tilanteesta painaa mieltä, kertoo Harkovaan keskiviikkoiltapäivänä saapunut Ylen toimittaja Antti Kuronen.

Ukrainalaisviranomaiset ovat jo päässeet tutkimaan miehitettyinä olleiden alueiden tilannetta.

– Sieltä on löytynyt hautoja ja erilaisia vankityrmiä, joissa ihmisiä on kidutettu ja pidetty vangittuina. Lähipäivinä tai -viikkoina selviää, kuinka paha tilanne siellä on ollut, Kuronen sanoo.

Yle Harkovassa: Ihmisiä on pidätetty, kidutettu ja tapettu

Ylen toimittaja Antti Kuronen kertoo, että venäläisten vetäytymisestä huolimatta Harkovan alueen humanitaarinen tilanne on vaikea.

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[FinnNSF]

Kyseessä siis tämä pato:
Katso liite: 67306

Tuo on Kryvyi Rihin pato.

Nova Kakhovan voimala ja pato on eri.

Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant 351MW

Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant 351MW · Новокаховське шосе, 3 м, Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraina, 74900

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Ukrainan rautatieyhtiö Ukrzaliznytsia on ilmoittanut aloittavansa tänään uudelleen junayhteyden Harkovan ja Balaklijan kaupunkien välillä, Kyiv Independent -nettilehti kertoo.

Ukrainan joukot saivat Balaklijan takaisin haltuunsa viikko sitten Harkovan alueella tekemässään vastahyökkäyksessä.

Rautatiesillat ja vaurioituneet raiteet on rautatieyhtiön mukaan nyt saatu korjattua.

Yle uutisten seuranta Venäjän hyökkäyksestä siirtyi toiseen artikkeliin

Tästä artikkelista löytyvät sodan tärkeimmät tapahtumat aikaväliltä 12.2.–28.12.2022.

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Venäjän patoa vastaan tekemä ohjusisku on aiheuttanut tulvan Krivyi Rihin kaupungissa, ukrainalaisviranomaiset kertovat.

Kaupungin sotilashallinnon johtaja Oleksandr Vilkul kertoo viestipalvelu Telegramissa, että 112 taloa on kärsinyt. Inhuletsjoen patoa korjataan ja tulvavesi on vetäytymässä, hän sanoo.

Venäjä ampui patoa vastaan eilen kahdeksan risteilyohjusta.

Kryvyi Rihissä asui ennen sotaa yli 600 000 ihmistä. Ukrainan presidentti Volodymyr Zelenskyi on syntynyt kaupungissa.

Venäjän presidentti Vladimir Putin ei ole vieläkään ymmärtänyt, että päätös hyökätä Ukrainaan oli virhe, Saksan liittokansleri Olaf Scholz sanoi tänään tiedotusvälineille.

Scholz kommentoi asiaa sen jälkeen, kun hän ja Putin puhuivat puhelimessa eilen tiistaina 90 minuutin ajan.

Saksa tiedotti Scholzin vaatineen Putinia löytämään sotaan diplomaattisen ratkaisun, joka perustuu aselepoon, Venäjän täydelliseen vetäytymiseen ja Ukrainan suvereniteetin kunnioittamiseen.

Ukrainan puolustusministeriö tiedottaa löytäneensä Venäjän kidutuskammion Balaklijan kaupungista, joka sijaitsee noin 75 kilometriä Harkovan kaupungista kaakkoon.

Puolustusministeriö kertoo ukrainalaisten vankien kaivertaneen kammion seinään Isä meidän -rukouksen.

Ukraina vapautti Harkovan alueella sijaitsevan Balaklijan viime viikolla alkaneessa vastahyökkäyksessään. Ukrainan puolustusministeriö vaatii Venäjää vastuuseen "räikeästä kansanmurhasta" Balaklijassa.

 

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Tuo on Kryvyi Rihin pato.

Nova Kakhovan voimala ja pato on eri.

Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant 351MW

Kakhovka Hydroelectric Power Plant 351MW · Новокаховське шосе, 3 м, Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast, Ukraina, 74900

★★★★★ · Vesivoimala

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nimenomaan... Ryssät on siis iskeny Kryvyi Rihin patoon... Ei kai ne Nova Kakhovaan iske, ku koittavatten parhaillaan saada sitä patosiltaa edes jotenkuten kulkukelposeks, että huolto edes vähän vetäis

 

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Toivotaan kazakstanilaisten olevan sen verran viisaita, että eivät alistu Kiinan vasalliksi, vaan ovat sen verran nokkelia, että etsivät hyötyjä ja etuja joka suunnalta. Heillä kun siihen on maantieteen puolesta hyvä mahdollisuus. Ei kaikkia munia samaan koriin jne.

Eräs tuttu kaiffari oli Kazakstanissa hommissa jälkeen miekka kirves aikoijen. On muuten "erityisvaltio" luonnonvarojen ja esim historiansa suhteen.
Olihan siellä ennen ukrainan sotaa kaduilla vedenvuodatusta tänä vuonna.
Munavalmis Saarinen nyt ei ole aika munia..(läppä)

 

[Lateeees]

Lehdistössä on tätä kelaa viime päivinä ollutkin. Venäjän hajoamiseen pitää ainakin joillakin suunnitelmilla varautua. Jos katsoo vain alueita ja väestöä, niin on helppo nähdä etenkin vesireiteissä mahdollisia etuja ja väestön myötä niiden haittoja. Esimerkiksi Jäämeren satama (+) olisi sen mukana tulevan venäläisvähemmistön (-) kanssa erittäin hyvä diili Suomelle, jos tilaisuus jotenkin tulisi. Muurmanni on liian suuri väestöltään. Saimaan kanavan (+) kohdalla Viipurin väestö (-) on myös sellainen hinta, jonka maksaisin jos pitäisi nyt päättäää.

Sitten on erilaista varautumista kaaokseen. Ne skenaariot, joista puhuttiin ysärin alussa, ovat monet tavallaan voimissaan taas.

Näiden lisäksi voitaisiin ottaa vielä Suursaari takasin.

 

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Tuhottu pato

 

[Coffee Man]

 

[S.a.v.u]

Tuhottu pato

Näyttäis värityksestä päätellen olevan nuo itäpäädyn sulkuluukut

 

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German economy minister Robert Habeck said on Thursday that according to Kyiv’s own estimates, Ukraine needs €350bn (£300bn / $350bn) for reconstruction.

Reuters reports that Habeck was welcoming G7 trade ministers during a meeting at Neuhardenberg Castle in the state of Brandenburg.

Asked about the prospects for the war, Habeck said “You now can see that it could come to an end with victory for freedom and democracy.”

Ukraine’s trade minister Yulia Svyrydenko is also attending the event.

Enemmän kuin takavarikoitu sotakassa

Russia-Ukraine war live: floods receding in Kryvyi Rih after missiles hit dam at Zelenskiy’s home town

Ukraine president condemns attack on civilian infrastructure that saw water overflow dam

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Ukraine’s counteroffensive in the Kharkiv oblast has degraded Russia’s artillery and air defence systems in the region, according to the latest report from the Institute for the Study of War, a US-based think-tank.

The Ukrainian General Staff reported on 14 September that the intensity of Russian artillery attacks on Kharkiv City has decreased significantly, suggesting that Ukraine’s counteroffensive has degraded Russian forces’ ability to conduct routine artillery strikes on the centre of Kharkiv City as Russian forces have been pushed eastward towards the Oskil River and north back into Russia.

Following a Russian strike with eight cruise missiles on Wednesday on civilian water infrastructure on the town of Kryvyi Rih there has been flooding.

Reuters reports that Oleksandr Vilkul, the head of the Krivyi Rih military administration, said in a post on Telegram that 112 homes were flooded but that works to repair the dam on the Inhulets river were under way, and that “flooding was receding”.

The BBC quotes Vilkul saying that water levels had “dropped considerably” and that there were no casualties.

A Russian official who called for Vladimir Putin to resign on Monday is standing by his statements, despite being fined and threatened with jail time, CNN reports.

Nikita Yuferev, a deputy in Smolninskoye Municipal District in St Petersburg, reportedly said: “We will continue to insist on his resignation.”

Yuferev said he was doing it for his children, saying that he wants them to be able to speak their minds at demonstrations and protests. “I don’t want them to fear retaliation from the police.”

 

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Aika hyvin näkyy, miten ryssän asema on heikentynyt roimasti sodan edetessä. Ryssä ei enää voi vaatia mitään, korkeintaan neuvotella sotakorvausten määrästä jos haluaa rauhaa ja edes alkeellista suhteiden normalisoinnin alkua. Ei tule varmaan hetkeen toteutumaan.

 

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Just weeks ago, Irina was working in the Russian occupation administration in Kupiansk, a large town in northern Ukraine that had been captured days after Vladimir Putin launched his war against the country.

But then, as Russian troops fled the city and the Ukrainian army retook occupied territories in the country’s north, she and her family fled what they expected would be swift punishment for collaborating with the Russian invasion force.

Evidence emerging from the newly retaken territories indicates that Russian troops regularly used violence to put down any local dissent and maintain control. At the same time, some have said they welcomed and helped the Russians. Others listened to the insistence by Moscow-installed officials that they were there to stay for ever and decided to cooperate or simply try to live quietly under Russian rule.

Moscow’s local allies were told ‘Russia is here for ever’. Now they flee Ukraine

Supporters in shock as Kremlin reneges on vow that helped project power into captured towns and villages

www.theguardian.com

“Everyone had told us we’re here now, we’re here, you have nothing to be afraid of,” said Irina, recalling promises from officials sent by Moscow. She had taken a job in the accounting department of the new local administration installed by Russia, she said. “Five days ago they were telling us they would never leave. And three days later we were under shelling ... And we don’t understand anything [about the offensive].

“We don’t understand what the point of this is then,” she said of the Russian military operation.

For months, Russia told people in Ukraine’s occupied regions that it was there to stay. The rouble was introduced, retired people were told they would get Russian pensions, and pro-Russian residents were hired into the ranks of government workers.

“The fact is obvious that Russia is never leaving,” said Andrei Turchak, a leader of Russia’s governing United Russia party, during a visit to Kupiansk in July. “Russia will never leave here. And all the necessary aid will be provided.”

That vow, along with the threat of violence, was crucial to project Moscow’s power into the towns and villages of Ukraine by ensuring willing locals that they would never have to face punishment as traitors or collaborators.

Now Russia’s retreat has dealt a devastating blow to the image of the Russian armed forces and the Kremlin among some of their most willing supporters in Ukraine.

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Mikäs muuten on tilanne sotakorvausten suhteen?
Eli toki vahingon aiheuttaja eli Venäjän tulee maksaa kaikki mitä on paskonut. Onko ne maailmalla takavarikoidut varat saatavilla sotakorvauksina Ukrainalle vai onko jotain esteitä?
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The rout of the Russian army in Ukraine’s Kharkiv region seems likely to be a turning point in Kyiv’s battle to kick Russian troops out of the country, but it may also cause much broader fallout for Moscow in the wider region, as other former Soviet countries witness what appears to be the limits of Moscow’s capabilities.

“The power of the Russian flag has declined considerably, and the security system across the former Soviet space does seem to be broken,” said Laurence Broers, associate fellow at Chatham House.

This week, with attention focused across the Black Sea in Ukraine, fighting on the border between Azerbaijan and Armenia killed about 100 troops after Azerbaijan shelled a number of towns in Armenia, with both sides accusing each other of “provocations”.

Analysts said Azerbaijan had decided to test the waters while Russia was struggling in Ukraine. Russia has traditionally supported Armenia in its territorial dispute with Azerbaijan over the three decades since the fall of communism.

“Azerbaijan feels quite confident in this geopolitical moment, and particularly right now during the Ukrainian counteroffensive,” said Tom de Waal, senior fellow at Carnegie Europe. “This seems absolutely aimed at Russia as much as it is at Armenia, testing Russia’s commitment to defend Armenia.”

Former Soviet states eye opportunities as Russia struggles in Ukraine

Moscow’s influence in the Caucasus and central Asia is being unravelled by its ‘special military operation’

www.theguardian.com

“Russia is clearly equivocating, both because it’s massively overstretched in Ukraine and because it doesn’t want to pick a fight with Azerbaijan at this point,” said de Waal.

Separately, clashes broke out on the border between Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan on Wednesday morning, killing one border guard and wounding five others in Tajikistan, according to local reports.

While that specific incident is not directly related to the war in Ukraine, and though Russia has traditionally had good relations with both countries, analysts say that the Russian invasion has completely changed the balance of power in a region that for years has been a battleground for Russian, Chinese and western influence, and put Russia on the back foot.

Kazakhstan, traditionally a close ally, has infuriated many in Moscow by trying to remain neutral over Ukraine, refusing to recognise the Russian-controlled territories in east Ukraine and promising not to aid Russia’s efforts to circumvent international sanctions.

This led some in Moscow to question Kazakhstan’s sovereignty, including the former Russian prime minister Dmitry Medvedev, who called it an “artificial state” in a post he later deleted.

But while Kazakhstan remains wary of the longer-term threats from its bigger neighbour and supposed ally, there are others ready to step in and fill the gap. On Wednesday, the Chinese president, Xi Jinping, arrived in Kazakhstan on what is thought to be his first trip abroad since the start of the Covid pandemic.

“We will continue to resolutely support Kazakhstan in protecting its independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity,” he said, in a statement that seemed partially designed as a rebuke to the Kremlin.

On Wednesday, Russia designated one of Tajikistan’s opposition parties a terrorist movement, a move which Moscow has long resisted, and which will help the country’s dictatorial government to have any citizen it wants extradited from Russia.

“Many central Asian countries see that Russia needs them more than ever before, and they’re now trying to squeeze as much as they can,” said Temur Umarov, fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Omiin silmiin tämä näyttää että mafia ei pysty enään takamaan turvaa ja koska se on kyrvättänyt kalustonsa Ukrainan sodassa, sudet sen rajalla on kärkkymässä tilannetta missä ne voivat toteuttaa itseään. Siksi Xin Kazakhstanin turvatakuut on niin merkittävät. Jos ne laukeavat niin mun ennustus voi tulla toteen

 

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Onko ne maailmalla takavarikoidut varat saatavilla sotakorvauksina Ukrainalle vai onko jotain esteitä?

Takavarikoitujen omaisuuksien omistamisessa on ollut kaikenlaisia kommervenkkejä. Joten mitenkään puhdas se ei ole missään tapauksessa.

 

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Mikäs muuten on tilanne sotakorvausten suhteen?
Eli toki vahingon aiheuttaja eli Venäjän tulee maksaa kaikki mitä on paskonut. Onko ne maailmalla takavarikoidut varat saatavilla sotakorvauksina Ukrainalle vai onko jotain esteitä?
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Toivoa sopii toki, mutta en pidättäisi hengitystä odottaessa. Omaisuuden suoja on länsimaissa vielä aika kovaa valuuttaa. Jos tilanne olisi toisinpäin, ei vanjalla toki olisi mitään pidäkkeitä.

 

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Ei näy mitään vesivoimalaa tuollapäin ainakaan wikin listassa eikä muukaan kuukkelointi löydä sellaisesta tietoa. Kryvyi Rihissä on 2,8GW hiilivoimala. Sen rinnalla mikä tahansa vesivoimala tuon kokoisessa pikkujoessa olisi lähinnä fillarin dynamo.

List of power stations in Ukraine - Wikipedia

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Tämän mukaan tekoallas on lähialueen juomavesivarasto.

Russians hit dam in Kryvyi Rih with missiles, Zelenskyy accuses enemy of ‘trying to sow panic’

Russia carried out a missile strike on a dam in Kryvyi Rih, Dnipropetrovsk Oblast on the evening of Sept. 14, raising fears in Ukraine that Moscow, defeated on the battlefield, will now step up its attacks on civilian targets.

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Kyllä kait tämä on sotarikos

What IHL says about water

In an interview for the website, ICRC legal adviser Jean-Marie Henckaerts explains how international humanitarian law provides special protection for life-giving water resources.

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Broadly speaking, how does international humanitarian law protect water resources?

In essence, water is a civilian object and, as such, protected by humanitarian law. But in addition, water is indispensable for the survival of the civilian population. Hence, it has been granted special protection, including water sanitation and distribution installations.

Are there areas where change is under way regarding protection of water in the realm of humanitarian law and case law? The International Criminal Court for example? In other words, is it a war crime to attack people's water?

Attacks against civilian objects and, in particular, against objects that are indispensable for the survival of the civilian population are war crimes. So far there have been no prosecutions before international courts and tribunals for attacks against water installations but the option clearly exists.

 

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Mikäs muuten on tilanne sotakorvausten suhteen?
Eli toki vahingon aiheuttaja eli Venäjän tulee maksaa kaikki mitä on paskonut. Onko ne maailmalla takavarikoidut varat saatavilla sotakorvauksina Ukrainalle vai onko jotain esteitä?
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EKP rahoittaa Ukrainan jälleenrakennuksen. Niin se vaan menee, vaikka ryssä saisikin pataansa.

 

[Jusarius]

Se että Venäjä iskee nyt siviili-infrastruktuuriin kertoo siitä, että toivo alueiden valtauksesta ja hallussapidosta on ylemmälläkin tasolla jo menetetty. Joku muu saa korjata poltetun maan.

 

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Outside the city administration building, which was still hot from being bombed, there were fresh bullet casings. Bodies brutalised by shelling are reportedly beginning to be recovered from the rubble, some apparently buried alive.

Regarded for centuries as the gateway to the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine and, from there, to the Black Sea, today Izium is a giant crime scene where Ukrainian prosecutors are moving fast to gather evidence on war crimes allegedly perpetrated by the Russians in the cities liberated by Kyiv.

“After the counter-offensive, we have found a few burial sites of local residents [across the Kharkiv region] that were murdered by the Russian military,” says Oleksandr Filchakov, Kharkiv region’s chief prosecutor. “Some of them even tortured. As for Izium, well, we have just started …”

‘People disappeared’: Izium’s residents on Russia’s occupation

After Ukrainian forces recapture the town, its people say Russians came knowing who they wanted and took them away

www.theguardian.com

According to testimony from residents and some police officers, at least 50 people died when Russia dropped a series of heavy bombs on a residential building near the main bridge. The apartment building split in two, with chunks taken off the edge, by what looks similar to the bombs used when Russians tried to capture Borodianka in the Kyiv region – a Fab-250 Soviet-era bomb designed to hit military targets such as enemy fortifications and bunkers.

There were no such structures, however, in this quiet town, which before the war had a population of 46,000 people. Today, a few thousand of them remain. Local people say the only way out was to Russia and many refused to go.

Ivanovych said that mobile phone signals and electricity were cut during the bombing in early March. He said electricity was restored a month ago but not in all districts of the city, meaning some people lived without power for the entire period.

As most people in the city rely on electric pumps for their water supply, the lack of electricity also meant no water. Residents had rarely been able to wash themselves or their clothes.

However, the residents the Guardian spoke to confirmed that when the Russians arrived in their city they already had lists of those locals who were in the military, the families of military people, or the people who were veterans of the Donbas war, which began in 2014.

“They knew exactly where to look, what address,” said the woman.

According to their testimonies, the Russians allegedly kidnapped these men and took them to unknown locations. Their fate, to date, remains a mystery.

“They disappeared,” says Eduard, 30. “A friend of mine rebelled against the Russian soldiers who had stolen his car. They killed him in cold blood, along with his dog.”

Residents hope that normal life returns soon and that the battle that forced them into hiding for months, killed their friends and destroyed their homes is really over, even as explosions echo in the streets from the south-eastern frontline, just eight kilometres (five miles) away.