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Päätin penkoa, mitä tästä "Iranin dronetehdas Venäjälle" aiheesta on löydettävissä, tässä venäläisen bmpd-blogin kirjoitus (artikkeli julkaistu 6.2.2023) jossa siteerataan Wall Street Journalin artikkelia:
Plans for the construction of a plant for the production of Iranian UAVs in Yelabuga
bmpd
February 6th, 9:53 pm
The American newspaper "The Wall Street Journal" in the material Dion Nissenbaum and Warren P. Strobe "Moscow, Tehran Advance Plans for Iranian-Designed Drone Facility in Russia. The two countries are deepening a military partnership that has alarmed the West" ("Moscow and Tehran is moving ahead with plans to set up a plant to produce Iranian-designed unmanned aerial vehicles in Russia. The two countries are deepening a military partnership that is increasingly worrying to the West") reports on a joint Russian-Iranian project to build a plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles in Yelabuga, Tatarstan and loitering ammunition of Iranian development.
Iranian loitering ammunition Shahed-136 (c) ISPI
Moscow and Tehran are advancing on plans to build a new factory in Russia that could manufacture at least 6,000 Iranian-designed drones for the war in Ukraine, officials from the U.S.-linked country said, signaling deepening cooperation between the two countries. .
As part of the emerging military alliance, a high-ranking Iranian delegation flew to Russia in early January to visit a planned site for the plant and
work out the details of launching the project. Both countries are aiming to develop a faster drone that could create new challenges for Ukraine's air defenses, officials said.
Tehran has already provided hundreds of drones to Moscow, with which it has used to strike military and civilian targets in Ukraine, US officials said. And the Biden administration has warned that Russia and Iran are developing a "full-fledged defense partnership."
The White House said Moscow has been training Iranian pilots to fly Russian jet fighters, which it intends to deliver to Tehran by the end of the year.
In December, the White House warned that Moscow and Tehran were considering setting up a joint production line to produce drones in Russia.
Now, from a country allied with the United States, talks have turned into concrete plans, officials say, with a January 5 visit [by an Iranian delegation] to the Russian city of Yelabuga, about 600 miles east of Moscow. The Iranians visited a vacant site where the leaders of the two countries are planning to build a new plant that will be able to produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years.
Officials said the Iranian delegation was led by Brigadier General Abdollah Mehrabi, head of the Jihad Research and Self-Sustainment Organization of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force, and Ghasem Damavandyan, executive director of Iran's Qods Aviation Industries, a key defense manufacturer that the US believes plays a central role in role in the development and production of drones in Iran.
Russian and Iranian officials did not respond to requests for comment.
So far, Iran has supplied Russia mainly with so-called Shahed-136 kamikaze [loitering munitions] drones containing a small explosive charge that detonates when the drone hits a target, according to US and Ukrainian officials.
Russia has used these drones to strike Ukraine's power grid in an attempt to disable the country's power and electricity supply during the cold winter and sap morale. After some time, Ukraine's air defense managed to largely neutralize the threat of drones. The Shahed-136 is a slow and noisy drone with a propeller engine, making it relatively easy to spot and shoot down. Ukraine has shot down more than 540 drones since they began appearing in the country's skies last fall, according to the Ukrainian Air Force.
Now, officials say, Iran is working with Russia to develop an upgrade to the Shahed-136 that is expected to include a new engine so it can fly faster and farther. The new plant [in Yelabuga] will produce this upgraded drone. This could create new problems for Ukraine and other countries that could become targets for these drones.
Earthworks at the plant have not yet begun, so this production line is not expected to have an immediate impact on the balance of power in Ukraine, where there are signs of Russian intentions to launch a new offensive in the coming weeks.
The drone factory is part of a $1 billion deal between Russia and Iran, officials said. Moscow has provided Iran with weapons captured from the battlefield in Ukraine, which they are trying to replicate, officials said.
The US warned that Iran had also agreed to supply ballistic missiles to Moscow. So far, however, according to US officials and their allies, there is no indication that Tehran has sent such missiles to Russia.
Russia and Iran continue to develop closer ties in various areas. The two countries recently connected their interbank payment messaging systems, paving the way for all Iranian banks to transact with Russian lenders. Both countries face strict international sanctions against their banking industries.
Coincidentally, on January 6, the day after Iranian officials flew to Russia to negotiate a drone factory, the US imposed economic sanctions on Damavandyan. This head of the Iranian aviation industry is accused by America of overseeing Iran's supply of drones to Russia and training Russian forces in the handling of these weapons. The US imposed economic sanctions on Brigadier General Mehrabi in 2021 when America accused the Iranian military leader of directing the production and procurement of special engines for Iran's fleet of drones.
A colleague of imp_navigator in the material "6000 drones" about this publication reports:
The Wall Street Journal writes that in early January an Iranian delegation visited the Russian Yelabuga at the site where they will build a new joint venture for the production of UAVs with an indicated production volume of 6000 drones (only not clear how long). including they write that allegedly they will be producing a new, faster version of kamikaze drones, which is now being developed by Iran and Russia.
The composition of the Iranian delegation is interesting, which, again, according to information from The Wall Street Journal, visited Yelabuga in January on the site for the construction of a Russian plant. Firstly, if the head of the Organization for Jihad Research and Self-Sufficiency of the Aerospace Forces of the IRGC really came, then this once again indicates a very high level of trust between the parties, since this person directly oversees many key developments not only in the field of UAVs, but also Iranian ballistic and cruise missiles. Secondly, if there was an executive director of Qods Aviation Industries, then it is probably not only about kamikaze drones .. Qods Aviation Industries is the developer and manufacturer of Mohajer drones.
bmpd
February 6th, 9:53 pm
The American newspaper "The Wall Street Journal" in the material Dion Nissenbaum and Warren P. Strobe "Moscow, Tehran Advance Plans for Iranian-Designed Drone Facility in Russia. The two countries are deepening a military partnership that has alarmed the West" ("Moscow and Tehran is moving ahead with plans to set up a plant to produce Iranian-designed unmanned aerial vehicles in Russia. The two countries are deepening a military partnership that is increasingly worrying to the West") reports on a joint Russian-Iranian project to build a plant for the production of unmanned aerial vehicles in Yelabuga, Tatarstan and loitering ammunition of Iranian development.
Iranian loitering ammunition Shahed-136 (c) ISPI
Moscow and Tehran are advancing on plans to build a new factory in Russia that could manufacture at least 6,000 Iranian-designed drones for the war in Ukraine, officials from the U.S.-linked country said, signaling deepening cooperation between the two countries. .
As part of the emerging military alliance, a high-ranking Iranian delegation flew to Russia in early January to visit a planned site for the plant and
work out the details of launching the project. Both countries are aiming to develop a faster drone that could create new challenges for Ukraine's air defenses, officials said.
Tehran has already provided hundreds of drones to Moscow, with which it has used to strike military and civilian targets in Ukraine, US officials said. And the Biden administration has warned that Russia and Iran are developing a "full-fledged defense partnership."
The White House said Moscow has been training Iranian pilots to fly Russian jet fighters, which it intends to deliver to Tehran by the end of the year.
In December, the White House warned that Moscow and Tehran were considering setting up a joint production line to produce drones in Russia.
Now, from a country allied with the United States, talks have turned into concrete plans, officials say, with a January 5 visit [by an Iranian delegation] to the Russian city of Yelabuga, about 600 miles east of Moscow. The Iranians visited a vacant site where the leaders of the two countries are planning to build a new plant that will be able to produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years.
Officials said the Iranian delegation was led by Brigadier General Abdollah Mehrabi, head of the Jihad Research and Self-Sustainment Organization of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Aerospace Force, and Ghasem Damavandyan, executive director of Iran's Qods Aviation Industries, a key defense manufacturer that the US believes plays a central role in role in the development and production of drones in Iran.
Russian and Iranian officials did not respond to requests for comment.
So far, Iran has supplied Russia mainly with so-called Shahed-136 kamikaze [loitering munitions] drones containing a small explosive charge that detonates when the drone hits a target, according to US and Ukrainian officials.
Russia has used these drones to strike Ukraine's power grid in an attempt to disable the country's power and electricity supply during the cold winter and sap morale. After some time, Ukraine's air defense managed to largely neutralize the threat of drones. The Shahed-136 is a slow and noisy drone with a propeller engine, making it relatively easy to spot and shoot down. Ukraine has shot down more than 540 drones since they began appearing in the country's skies last fall, according to the Ukrainian Air Force.
Now, officials say, Iran is working with Russia to develop an upgrade to the Shahed-136 that is expected to include a new engine so it can fly faster and farther. The new plant [in Yelabuga] will produce this upgraded drone. This could create new problems for Ukraine and other countries that could become targets for these drones.
Earthworks at the plant have not yet begun, so this production line is not expected to have an immediate impact on the balance of power in Ukraine, where there are signs of Russian intentions to launch a new offensive in the coming weeks.
The drone factory is part of a $1 billion deal between Russia and Iran, officials said. Moscow has provided Iran with weapons captured from the battlefield in Ukraine, which they are trying to replicate, officials said.
The US warned that Iran had also agreed to supply ballistic missiles to Moscow. So far, however, according to US officials and their allies, there is no indication that Tehran has sent such missiles to Russia.
Russia and Iran continue to develop closer ties in various areas. The two countries recently connected their interbank payment messaging systems, paving the way for all Iranian banks to transact with Russian lenders. Both countries face strict international sanctions against their banking industries.
Coincidentally, on January 6, the day after Iranian officials flew to Russia to negotiate a drone factory, the US imposed economic sanctions on Damavandyan. This head of the Iranian aviation industry is accused by America of overseeing Iran's supply of drones to Russia and training Russian forces in the handling of these weapons. The US imposed economic sanctions on Brigadier General Mehrabi in 2021 when America accused the Iranian military leader of directing the production and procurement of special engines for Iran's fleet of drones.
A colleague of imp_navigator in the material "6000 drones" about this publication reports:
The Wall Street Journal writes that in early January an Iranian delegation visited the Russian Yelabuga at the site where they will build a new joint venture for the production of UAVs with an indicated production volume of 6000 drones (only not clear how long). including they write that allegedly they will be producing a new, faster version of kamikaze drones, which is now being developed by Iran and Russia.
The composition of the Iranian delegation is interesting, which, again, according to information from The Wall Street Journal, visited Yelabuga in January on the site for the construction of a Russian plant. Firstly, if the head of the Organization for Jihad Research and Self-Sufficiency of the Aerospace Forces of the IRGC really came, then this once again indicates a very high level of trust between the parties, since this person directly oversees many key developments not only in the field of UAVs, but also Iranian ballistic and cruise missiles. Secondly, if there was an executive director of Qods Aviation Industries, then it is probably not only about kamikaze drones .. Qods Aviation Industries is the developer and manufacturer of Mohajer drones.
Artikkelissa puhutaan tehtaan sijoituspaikkana Yelabuga, Tatarstan - kyseisen paikan sijainti kartalla:
Poimin pari minua eniten kiinnostanutta yksityiskohtaa tuosta lainaamastani tekstistä:
- iranilaiset vierailivat katsomassa kohdetta jonne on tarkoitus rakentaa uusi tehdas, väitetysti kapasiteetti "vähintään 6 000 dronea", tosin puhutaanko vuosituotannosta vai useamman vuoden tuotannosta (tarkka lainaus: will be able to produce at least 6,000 drones in the coming years)
- väitetysti olisi tarkoitus kehittää päivitetty versio Shahed-136 dronesta. Oletetaan että kyseinen päivitys sisältäisi ainakin uuden moottorin, jonka avulla se voi lentää nopeammin ja kauemmas
- Yelabugaan perustettavan uuden tehtaan olisi tarkoitus valmistaa tätä päivitettyä versiota Shahed-136 dronesta. Eivät ole vielä edes aloittaneet maanmuokkausta paikalla jonne tehdas on tarkoitus perustaa joten tämän tuotantolinjan / tehtaan ei odoteta aiheuttavan välitöntä muutosta Ukrainan sodan voimasuhteisiin
- tämä drone-tehdas on yksi osa 1 miljardin dollarin sopimuksesta Venäjän ja Iranin välillä. Venäjä on mm. toimittanut Iranille taistelukentällä kaappaamiaan aseita, joita iranilaiset tutkivat ja yrittävät kopioida (näin väittää WSJ:n artikkeliin haastateltu virkamies)
- Yhdysvallat varoitti että Iran olisi myöntynyt toimittamaan Venäjälle ballistisia ohjuksia, mutta toistaiseksi ei ole merkkejä siitä että tällaisia aseita olisi toimitettu
- bmpd-blogi lainaa lopuksi toista venäläistä kirjoittajaa, joka teki havaintoja Iranin delegaatiosta: siinä oli mukana miehiä, jotka ovat merkittävässä roolissa paitse itsemurhadronejen ja "loitering munition" kehitystyössä niin myös Iranin ballististen ohjusten ja risteilyohjusten kehityksessä. Lisäksi mukana oli miehiä yrityksestä, joka valmistaa mm. Mohajer-dronea. Minun arvio: tämä voisi tarkoittaa että kyseisellä tehtaalla saatettaisiin valmistaa muitakin kuin pelkästään "päivitettyä versiota Shahed-136 dronesta". Tällöin tietysti oletetaan että Venäjä ja Iran ovat sopineet tällaisesta suuresta kaupasta eikä esim. ulkopuolelta tullut paine ole vaikuttanut Iranin johtajien päätöksentekoon
Pitäisin silmällä, kuuluuko tästä mitään. Yelabuga, Tatarstan kannattaa myös painaa mieleen yhtenä mahdollisesti kiinnostavana kohteena, tosin uuden tehtaan perustaminen ei ole mikään pikku juttu vaan vie aikaa. Iranilaiset tietysti tuovat osaamisensa, mikä nopeuttaa asiaa osaltaan, mutta oletan että tämän perustamiseen ja käyttöönottoon menisi ainakin tämä vuosi (ehkä kauemminkin). JOS näin on, siihen asti Venäjä on riippuvainen Iranista toimitettavista droneista tai niiden kiteistä sekä kotimaan teollisuuden uustuotannosta.
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Antares
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Tässä pari twiittiä lisää tästä aiheesta sekä linkki lähteeseen.
En ala lainaamaan artikkelin tekstiä, siitä on paljon ja kuvia on myös paljon. Suosittelen tutustumaan jos kiinnostaa lukea lisää:
https://informnapalm.org/ua/zlam-75387-960-aviapolku/
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Antares
Respected Leader
Venäläisen bmpd-blogin artikkeli: LÄHDE
The question of the production of tanks in Russia in 2023
bmpd
March 26th, 4:50 pm
Medvedev on julistanut että Venäjän asevoimille toimitetaan 1 500 kpl panssarivaunuja vuoden 2023 aikana.
Putin itse on julistanut määrän olevan "yli 1 600 kpl" ja olevan yli kolme kertaa enemmän kuin länsimaiden Ukrainalle toimittamien vaunujen määrä.
Ottaisin nämä puheet tosissaan siltä osin että tämä on maan korkeimman johdon julkilausuma tavoite, johon oma teollisuus pyrkii paitsi uustuotannolla niin myös varastotukikohtien vaunuja modernisoimalla ja aktivoimalla.
Oletan että valtaosa tästä määrästä on varastotukikohdista otettuja vaunuja, T-54/T-55 osalta yksi lähde sanoi että näitä vaunuja olisi 250 kpl. Lisäksi aikaisemmin kuultiin miten 103. armored repair plant modernisoi T-62 ja T-72 vaunuja, muistaakseni keskiarvo oli 230-240 kpl per vuosi (monivuotinen tilaus, kokonaismäärä oli 800 kpl). Se uutinen sai siivet ja kääntyi muotoon "800 kpl T-62 vaunuja" mutta todellisuudessa videolla nähtiin myös T-72A vaunuja.
Joka tapauksessa nämä kaksi yhteenlaskettuna lähestytään 500 kpl määrää.
He jatkavat tietysti T-72B3, T-72B3 obr 2016, T-80BVM ja T-90M vaunujen modernisointia parhaiden kykyjensä mukaan. Vuoden 2021 julkisanottu tavoite oli yhteensä 240 kpl näitä vaunuja (päästiinkö tavoitteeseen, tästä on moni näkemyksiä). Kyetäänkö sota-aikana vastaavaan määrään? Onko aihioita ja varaosia riittävästi? Pitääkö tyytyä karsittuihin versioihin?
T-80BV vaunuja on nähty runsaasti Ukrainassa ja niitä on menetetty Oryxin mukaan selvästi suurempi määrä kuin mitä Venäjän aktiivijoukoilla oli käytössään. Näitä vaunuja kyettäneen aktivoimaan varastoista lisää (ehkä jopa useampi sata, Jaroslaw Wolskin yhden arvion mukaan näitä vaunuja olisi remontoitu 620 kpl jollakin aikavälillä - jos näin on, oletan että nämä tai osa näistä olisi käyttöönotettavissa kohtuullisen nopeasti).
Mitä muuta?
T-72B obr 2022 on vanhan vaunun kevyehkö modernisointi, joka ei kuitenkaan vastaa kaikilta piirteiltään T-72B3 tai T-72B3 obr 2016 vaunuja. Näitä nähtäneen lisää.
JOS otetaan Putinin julistama "yli 1 600 kpl" yleiseksi tavoitteeksi, niin se tarkoittaisi keskiarvoisesti 133 kpl panssarivaunuja per kuukausi. Toki ylhäältä voidaan jakaa mahtikäskyjä "hoidappa homma" ja suorittava porras tekee sitten parhaansa. Ehkä T-54/T-55 vaunujen aktivointi tulee nähdä osana tätä kokonaisuutta? Jos näitä ei aktivoitaisi, ei päästäisi Ison Herran määräämään tavoitteeseen? Vaunu kuin vaunu, sillä ei ole merkitystä kunhan voidaan sanoa että määräys täytettiin?
The question of the production of tanks in Russia in 2023
bmpd
March 26th, 4:50 pm
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4676984.html
The question of the production of tanks in Russia in 2023
bmpd
March 26th, 4:50 pm
As the Vedomosti newspaper reported in an article by Alexei Nikolsky and Ilya Lakstygal, “The armed forces will receive 1,500 tanks in 2023. This number will also include modernized vehicles removed from storage,” Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev became the first leader since the beginning of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine to name the annual production of one of the main types of combat platforms actively used in hostilities - the main battle tanks.
Tank T-90M produced in 2023 by JSC NPK Uralvagonzavod at factory tests. Side screens removed (c) "JSC" NPK "Uralvagonzavod"
“Our enemies believed that our industry would choke, that is, we would spend everything - these are their endless conversations. “We ran out of shells, ran out of tanks, ran out of rockets,” etc. We will make 1,500 tanks alone this year,” Dmitry Medvedev said in an interview with Russian news agencies and users of the social network VK. “The military-industrial complex has become hot, it works actively, most enterprises (I’m talking about this firsthand, but because I drive around them) work in three shifts, they work, as they say, from wheels - they directly give everything to the troops, produce the most modern Russian types of weapons, and even in a situation where they are really trying to deprive us of components, cut off oxygen in certain areas,” Medvedev said. The new T-90M tank, according to Medvedev, “is the best tank in the world and outperforms Western Leopards,
Dmitry Kornev, editor of the Military Russia portal, believes that it is unlikely that we are talking about 1,500 new tanks. Most likely, a significant part will consist of modernized Soviet vehicles, removed from storage and equipped with new means of communication, dynamic protection, electronics, etc., suggests Kornev.
According to a source close to the Ministry of Defense, it is indeed planned to produce several hundred new T-90M and T-14 tanks, and most of the rest will be modernized T-72 and T-80 tanks taken from military equipment storage bases. A number of older T-62 tanks will also be upgraded. In the fall of 2022, visiting the 103rd armored repair plant in Chita, State Duma deputy Andrey Gurulyov said that the company had a contract for the modernization of 400 T-62s. In the 80s. Soviet factories produced more than 2,000 new tanks a year. Only "Uralvagonzavod" (UVZ) in 1985, at its peak, according to the book "T-72 / T-90. Experience in creating domestic main battle tanks”, produced 1559 T-72 tanks. In the post-Soviet period, the maximum rate of production of T-90 tanks was achieved in the 2000s.
According to the editor-in-chief of the Arsenal of the Fatherland magazine, Viktor Murakhovsky, it is necessary to increase the production of new T-90M tanks, and the corresponding decisions have obviously been made. These tanks will be able to effectively withstand such strong Western tanks as the German Leopard 2A6, the British Challenger 2 and the American Abrams, which are planned to be delivered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces this year.
Apparently, the total production of new tanks for the Russian Armed Forces in 2023 will be adequate to the announced deliveries of third-generation Western tanks to Ukraine, such as the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and Abrams, believes Mikhail Barabanov, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.
From the bmpd side, we indicate that the data that the notorious “1500 tanks” will be mostly non-new production vehicles was actually confirmed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who, in an interview with Russian television on March 25, said: “[Western] arsonists plan to send 420-440 tanks to Ukraine. During this time, we will produce new ones and modernize over 1,600 existing ones. The total number of Russian tanks will exceed three times the number of tanks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Even more than three times.”
The question of the production of tanks in Russia in 2023
bmpd
March 26th, 4:50 pm
As the Vedomosti newspaper reported in an article by Alexei Nikolsky and Ilya Lakstygal, “The armed forces will receive 1,500 tanks in 2023. This number will also include modernized vehicles removed from storage,” Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev became the first leader since the beginning of the Russian special military operation in Ukraine to name the annual production of one of the main types of combat platforms actively used in hostilities - the main battle tanks.
Tank T-90M produced in 2023 by JSC NPK Uralvagonzavod at factory tests. Side screens removed (c) "JSC" NPK "Uralvagonzavod"
“Our enemies believed that our industry would choke, that is, we would spend everything - these are their endless conversations. “We ran out of shells, ran out of tanks, ran out of rockets,” etc. We will make 1,500 tanks alone this year,” Dmitry Medvedev said in an interview with Russian news agencies and users of the social network VK. “The military-industrial complex has become hot, it works actively, most enterprises (I’m talking about this firsthand, but because I drive around them) work in three shifts, they work, as they say, from wheels - they directly give everything to the troops, produce the most modern Russian types of weapons, and even in a situation where they are really trying to deprive us of components, cut off oxygen in certain areas,” Medvedev said. The new T-90M tank, according to Medvedev, “is the best tank in the world and outperforms Western Leopards,
Dmitry Kornev, editor of the Military Russia portal, believes that it is unlikely that we are talking about 1,500 new tanks. Most likely, a significant part will consist of modernized Soviet vehicles, removed from storage and equipped with new means of communication, dynamic protection, electronics, etc., suggests Kornev.
According to a source close to the Ministry of Defense, it is indeed planned to produce several hundred new T-90M and T-14 tanks, and most of the rest will be modernized T-72 and T-80 tanks taken from military equipment storage bases. A number of older T-62 tanks will also be upgraded. In the fall of 2022, visiting the 103rd armored repair plant in Chita, State Duma deputy Andrey Gurulyov said that the company had a contract for the modernization of 400 T-62s. In the 80s. Soviet factories produced more than 2,000 new tanks a year. Only "Uralvagonzavod" (UVZ) in 1985, at its peak, according to the book "T-72 / T-90. Experience in creating domestic main battle tanks”, produced 1559 T-72 tanks. In the post-Soviet period, the maximum rate of production of T-90 tanks was achieved in the 2000s.
According to the editor-in-chief of the Arsenal of the Fatherland magazine, Viktor Murakhovsky, it is necessary to increase the production of new T-90M tanks, and the corresponding decisions have obviously been made. These tanks will be able to effectively withstand such strong Western tanks as the German Leopard 2A6, the British Challenger 2 and the American Abrams, which are planned to be delivered to the Ukrainian Armed Forces this year.
Apparently, the total production of new tanks for the Russian Armed Forces in 2023 will be adequate to the announced deliveries of third-generation Western tanks to Ukraine, such as the Leopard 2, Challenger 2 and Abrams, believes Mikhail Barabanov, an expert at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies.
From the bmpd side, we indicate that the data that the notorious “1500 tanks” will be mostly non-new production vehicles was actually confirmed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, who, in an interview with Russian television on March 25, said: “[Western] arsonists plan to send 420-440 tanks to Ukraine. During this time, we will produce new ones and modernize over 1,600 existing ones. The total number of Russian tanks will exceed three times the number of tanks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Even more than three times.”
Medvedev on julistanut että Venäjän asevoimille toimitetaan 1 500 kpl panssarivaunuja vuoden 2023 aikana.
Putin itse on julistanut määrän olevan "yli 1 600 kpl" ja olevan yli kolme kertaa enemmän kuin länsimaiden Ukrainalle toimittamien vaunujen määrä.
Ottaisin nämä puheet tosissaan siltä osin että tämä on maan korkeimman johdon julkilausuma tavoite, johon oma teollisuus pyrkii paitsi uustuotannolla niin myös varastotukikohtien vaunuja modernisoimalla ja aktivoimalla.
Oletan että valtaosa tästä määrästä on varastotukikohdista otettuja vaunuja, T-54/T-55 osalta yksi lähde sanoi että näitä vaunuja olisi 250 kpl. Lisäksi aikaisemmin kuultiin miten 103. armored repair plant modernisoi T-62 ja T-72 vaunuja, muistaakseni keskiarvo oli 230-240 kpl per vuosi (monivuotinen tilaus, kokonaismäärä oli 800 kpl). Se uutinen sai siivet ja kääntyi muotoon "800 kpl T-62 vaunuja" mutta todellisuudessa videolla nähtiin myös T-72A vaunuja.
Joka tapauksessa nämä kaksi yhteenlaskettuna lähestytään 500 kpl määrää.
He jatkavat tietysti T-72B3, T-72B3 obr 2016, T-80BVM ja T-90M vaunujen modernisointia parhaiden kykyjensä mukaan. Vuoden 2021 julkisanottu tavoite oli yhteensä 240 kpl näitä vaunuja (päästiinkö tavoitteeseen, tästä on moni näkemyksiä). Kyetäänkö sota-aikana vastaavaan määrään? Onko aihioita ja varaosia riittävästi? Pitääkö tyytyä karsittuihin versioihin?
T-80BV vaunuja on nähty runsaasti Ukrainassa ja niitä on menetetty Oryxin mukaan selvästi suurempi määrä kuin mitä Venäjän aktiivijoukoilla oli käytössään. Näitä vaunuja kyettäneen aktivoimaan varastoista lisää (ehkä jopa useampi sata, Jaroslaw Wolskin yhden arvion mukaan näitä vaunuja olisi remontoitu 620 kpl jollakin aikavälillä - jos näin on, oletan että nämä tai osa näistä olisi käyttöönotettavissa kohtuullisen nopeasti).
Mitä muuta?
T-72B obr 2022 on vanhan vaunun kevyehkö modernisointi, joka ei kuitenkaan vastaa kaikilta piirteiltään T-72B3 tai T-72B3 obr 2016 vaunuja. Näitä nähtäneen lisää.
JOS otetaan Putinin julistama "yli 1 600 kpl" yleiseksi tavoitteeksi, niin se tarkoittaisi keskiarvoisesti 133 kpl panssarivaunuja per kuukausi. Toki ylhäältä voidaan jakaa mahtikäskyjä "hoidappa homma" ja suorittava porras tekee sitten parhaansa. Ehkä T-54/T-55 vaunujen aktivointi tulee nähdä osana tätä kokonaisuutta? Jos näitä ei aktivoitaisi, ei päästäisi Ison Herran määräämään tavoitteeseen? Vaunu kuin vaunu, sillä ei ole merkitystä kunhan voidaan sanoa että määräys täytettiin?
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