Ilmavoimien tulevaisuus

[Hejsan]

Air to air missile : http://www.pmulcahy.com/aams/aams_2.htm
Air to surface missile: http://www.pmulcahy.com/asms/air-to-surface_missiles_links_2.html

ja kotisivu: http://www.pmulcahy.com/

 

[Teräsmies]

Airbus Military/Elta C-295 AEW - Paris 2011

 

[Hejsan]

AMRAAM, JDAM, JSOW ??

 

[Einomies1]

AMRAAM, JDAM, JSOW ??

Näyttäisi olevan 2 AGM-154C JSOW liitopommia ja 2 ehkä 500 lbs/227 kg:n JDAM pommia.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Finland-Requests-3rd-Upgrade-Phase-for-its-F-18s-05068/

Sep 14, 2008 15:15 EDT
Finland has already begun working to enhance its air force with LITENING targeting pods, modern AIM-120C-7 AMRAAM and AIM-9X Sidewinder air-air missiles, and other enhancements. Items requested in this notice include:

1 AGM-154C Joint Standoff Weapon (JSOW) Captive Air Training Missile
15 AGM-154C JSOW precision glide bombs
79 Multifunctional Information Display Systems/Low Volume Terminals (MIDS/LVT) to provide Link 16 shared displays
72 MIDS Electronic Interference Blanking Units
70 AN/ARC-210 (RT-1851A-c) Radios, including Single Channel Ground and Airborne Radio System (SINCGARS)
75 AN/AYQ-9 (V) Stores Management System Upgrades. The current state of the art is the AN/AYQ-22.
72 Color Cockpit Displays
70 Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing Systems (JHMCS) Laser Helmet Shields – presumably a protective addition, as Finland is already a JHMCS customer.
1 Lot of JHMCS Spares
Plus recorders, receivers, devices, Joint Mission Planning system upgrades, software test and integration center upgrades, engineering change proposals, component improvement program, spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical data, personnel training and equipment, and other support.

Lisää: Released on Friday, September 03, 2010
BAE Systems awarded contract to enhance capability of Finnish Air Force

Yeovil, United Kingdom - BAE Systems has been awarded a contract to provide a Link 16 network management system to the Finnish Air Force. Supporting the operation of Finland's F-18 aircraft, the system will enable ground command and control operators to connect to, and maintain contact with, their fast jets across the entire country.
The Link 16 network management solution offered by BAE Systems allows the Finnish Air Force to dynamically monitor the connectivity between the various ground sites and the aircraft, and to continuously measure how the network is performing to maintain an uninterrupted service.

http://www.deagel.com/news/BAE-Systems-Awarded-Contract-to-Enhance-Capability-for-Finnish-Air-Force-FA-18CD-Fleet_n000007772.aspx

On muuten aika iso tuo AIM-120B ohjusten hankintamäärä 1998-2002; 445 ohjusta, jos verrataan esim. ruotsiin!

AIM-120 AMRAAM; items: 445; transferred from United States of America to Finland between 1998 and 2002
Items: 445
Delivery Items
2002 12
2000 209
1999 160
1998 64

AIM-120 AMRAAM; items: 216; transferred from United States of America to Sweden between 1998 and 2002
Items: 216
http://www.deagel.com/Air-to-Air-Missiles/AIM-120B-AMRAAM_a001164002.aspx

AIM-120C-7 ohjusta pyydettiin 300 kpl, tuolla on viitteitä siitä mitä ehkä saatiin:

Released on Friday, August 06, 2010
273 AIM-120C7 AURs for Foreign Military Sales customers;This includes foreign military sales to Morocco, Jordan, Kuwait, Turkey, Singapore, Canada, Korea, Chile, Finland, United Kingdom (44 percent). At this time, the entire amount has been obligated.

http://www.deagel.com/news/Raytheon-Awarded-Contract-for-US-Air-Force-and-FMS-AIM-120CD-Missiles_n000007693.aspx

Tuo uutinen kävisi melko hyvin yhteen meidän F-18 MLU2 -päivityksien aikataulun suhteen:
http://www.saabgroup.com/About-Saab/Newsroom/Press-releases--News/2011---3/Saab-receives-order-for-airborne-self-protection-system/

 

[Hejsan]

Hieno kuva, Hawk, Mig, Draken, Hornet

 

[Hejsan]

jaja Super hornet on isompi kun hornet c/d

 

[Teräsmies]

'British Typhoons Whacked India's Sukhois in Joint Exercises'

Britain's frontline fighter jet Eurofighter Typhoon, shortlisted for India's $10.4-billion combat jets tender, whacked the Indian Air Force (IAF) warhorse Sukhoi in one-on-one dog fights during bilateral air war games, if Britain's air chief is to be believed.
"Well, they lost," was Stephen Dalton's response when IANS asked how the Russia-developed India-manufactured Su-30MKI air superiority jets performed against the Royal Air Force's (RAF) Typhoons when they matched their wits during the joint exercises in recent years.

However, he was quick to add that the two aircraft are different in technologies, and that Typhoons are next generation, and hence there is no comparison.

Dalton was interacting with IANS at the recently held Royal International Air Tattoo military air show at the RAF base here.

The two aircraft were pitted against each other during 'Indradhanush' exercises in 2007 at Waddington in Britain and in 2010 at Kalaikunda in India.

http://www.daijiworld.com/news/news_disp.asp?n_id=109428

 

[kunnas]

EF-2000 vs Su-30MKI
CAESAR AESA (EF-2000 Tranch3, post-2015 with 1,500 T/Rs)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 18~21 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 32~38 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 104~122 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 185~216 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 278~324 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 330~385 km+

N011M BARS

For RCS 1,0 class target: 218 km

Irbis-e

For RCS 1,0 class target: 277 km

SU-30MKI RCS 10-15 m2
EF Typhoon RCS 0,1 m2

 

[SJ]

EF-2000 vs Su-30MKI
CAESAR AESA (EF-2000 Tranch3, post-2015 with 1,500 T/Rs)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 18~21 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 32~38 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 104~122 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 185~216 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 278~324 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 330~385 km+

N011M BARS

For RCS 1,0 class target: 218 km

Irbis-e

For RCS 1,0 class target: 277 km

SU-30MKI RCS 10-15 m2
EF Typhoon RCS 0,1 m2

Eli ei pitäisi vaikuttaa tuloksiin. Kumpikin näkee toisensa ohjuksen koko kantamalla. ECM ja "harjoitusmoodit" on sitten erikseen.

 

[JOKO]

EF-2000 vs Su-30MKI
CAESAR AESA (EF-2000 Tranch3, post-2015 with 1,500 T/Rs)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 18~21 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 32~38 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 104~122 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 185~216 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 278~324 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 330~385 km+

N011M BARS

For RCS 1,0 class target: 218 km

Irbis-e

For RCS 1,0 class target: 277 km

SU-30MKI RCS 10-15 m2
EF Typhoon RCS 0,1 m2

Eli ei pitäisi vaikuttaa tuloksiin. Kumpikin näkee toisensa ohjuksen koko kantamalla. ECM ja "harjoitusmoodit" on sitten erikseen.

Eurofighterit voivat tehdä ratkaisuja taktiikan osalta, kun näkevät vastustajansa kaukaa. Suhoin mahdollisudet vastaavaan ovat heikommat.

 

[SJ]

EF-2000 vs Su-30MKI
CAESAR AESA (EF-2000 Tranch3, post-2015 with 1,500 T/Rs)

For RCS 0.0001 m2 class target: 18~21 km+
For RCS 0.001 m2 class target: 32~38 km+
For RCS 0.1 m2 class target: 104~122 km+
For RCS 1.0 m2 class target: 185~216 km+
For RCS 5.0 m2 class target: 278~324 km+
For RCS 10.0 m2 class target: 330~385 km+

N011M BARS

For RCS 1,0 class target: 218 km

Irbis-e

For RCS 1,0 class target: 277 km

SU-30MKI RCS 10-15 m2
EF Typhoon RCS 0,1 m2

Eli ei pitäisi vaikuttaa tuloksiin. Kumpikin näkee toisensa ohjuksen koko kantamalla. ECM ja "harjoitusmoodit" on sitten erikseen.

Eurofighterit voivat tehdä ratkaisuja taktiikan osalta, kun näkevät vastustajansa kaukaa. Suhoin mahdollisudet vastaavaan ovat heikommat.

Mutta silti kumpikin näkee toisen yli sadan kilsan päästä.

 

[Hejsan]

http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2009/05/russias-fifth-generation-fighter-plane.html

 

[Hejsan]

http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2010/10/gripen-possibilities.html

 

[Hejsan]

Toimiiko amraam myös näin HUDin kanssa?
http://weapons.technology.youngester.com/2009/05/python-missile-system.html

 

[kunnas]

Toimiiko amraam myös näin HUDin kanssa?

Ei

 

[BarrelNut]

Amraam on tutkaohjattu toisin kuin tuo Python 4. AIM-9X sen sijaan on laukaistavissa vaikka taaksepäin kypärätähtäimen avulla, se osaa lukittua vasta laukaisun jälkeen.

 

[SJ]

Amraam on tutkaohjattu toisin kuin tuo Python 4. AIM-9X sen sijaan on laukaistavissa vaikka taaksepäin kypärätähtäimen avulla, se osaa lukittua vasta laukaisun jälkeen.

Ja koska se osaa lukittua vasta laukaisun jälkeen, niin sen ei pitäisi tarvita nimenomaisesti sitä kypärätähtäintä, vaan veikkaan, että maalitiedot voisi saada myös toiselta koneelta. Voi tietenkin olla, että tuossa on jokin käytännön este (teknistä estettä kai ei ole?).

 

[Einomies1]

Amraam on tutkaohjattu toisin kuin tuo Python 4. AIM-9X sen sijaan on laukaistavissa vaikka taaksepäin kypärätähtäimen avulla, se osaa lukittua vasta laukaisun jälkeen.

Puhut siis uusimmasta Block II versioista, otaksun?

Tuo videoklippi oli AIM-9X Block I ohjuksesta (10 v.sitten), joka vaati kypärätähtäimen lukituksen ennen laukaisua.

Uusin versio voi siis lukittua myös laukaisun jälkeen ja sisältää yksisuuntaisen datalinkin, parannetun hakupään, ECCM-parannukset ja uuden sytyttimen.
Ohjuksella voi hyökätä myös pintamaaleihin maalla ja merellä.

NAVAL AIR SYSTEMS COMMAND, PATUXENT RIVER, Md. – The Navy’s Air-to-Air Missile Systems Program Office (PMA-259) reached a Milestone C decision June 24 for the AIM-9X Sidewinder Block II missile, thus authorizing the system to enter low rate initial production.

PMA-259’s industry partner, Raytheon, will begin production of more than 5,000 operational AIM-9X Block II rounds for U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force warfighters over the life of the program.

“This milestone allows us to provide U.S. and allied fighter pilots upgraded missiles which are needed to dominate air combat in an increasingly challenging threat environment,” said Capt. John Martins, PMA-259 program manager.

The AIM-9X Block II program corrects obsolescence issues and provides performance upgrades to the highly successful, fifth generation infrared-guided air-to-air-missile, AIM-9X Block I program. Obsolescence changes include updates for the guidance unit electronic circuit card assemblies, battery, and the active optical target detector (Fuze). The Block II has ability to operate with impunity against modern threat radar counter measures such as Digital RF Memory Jammers, Towed Decoys, and Stealth airframes.

Performance upgrades to Block II variant include the addition of advanced capabilities to maintain warfighter advantage in the visual arena and meet requirements for beyond visual range employment. These technical improvements focus on seeker performance, infrared counter-countermeasures, kinematics, and lock-on after launch supported by a data-link.
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.NAVAIRNewsStory&id=4693

The test marks the third time an AIM-9X engaged moving surface targets. In April 2008, a U.S. Air Force F-16 launched an AIM-9X and sank a maneuvering boat, and in March 2007, a U.S. Air Force F-15C fired an AIM-9X and destroyed a fast-moving armored personnel carrier.
http://www.aviationnews.eu/2009/12/09/raytheon-aim-9x-sidewinder-demonstrates-air-to-surface-capability/

 

[Hejsan]

Jaha onko tämä joku uus variannti Sidewinder AIM-9X-2

http://www.aviationnews.eu/2011/04/20/united-arab-emirates-%e2%80%93-aim-9x-2-sidewinder-missiles/

Onko uomella se ensinmäinen varoantti X:stä?
Mitä uuta on 9x-2:ssä?

 

[SJ]

Jaha onko tämä joku uus variannti Sidewinder AIM-9X-2

http://www.aviationnews.eu/2011/04/20/united-arab-emirates-%e2%80%93-aim-9x-2-sidewinder-missiles/

Onko uomella se ensinmäinen varoantti X:stä?
Mitä uuta on 9x-2:ssä?

Olisiko nimenomaan tuo Block 2. Sidewinder. Ei välttämättä muuta uutta, kuin se, että se voidaan lukita kohteeseen laukaisun jälkeen. Tämä ominaisuus on siis tärkeä silloin kun ohjuksia kuljetetaan koneessa sisäisesti.