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Mutta mitä tapahtuu Luhanskissa (Luganskissa)? Ovatko oheiset uutiset Venäjän sisäiseen käyttöön tarkoitettua fuulaa, vai miksi näistä surmista ei löydy mitään kansainvälisillä saiteilla? Luulisi noinkin suuren uhrimäärän herättävän edes pientä huomiota.


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Luhansk City Council: Forty-four civilians killed, 215 injured in Luhansk lately
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Forty-four civilians have been killed and 215 injured amid armed hostilities in Luhansk in the past several days, Luhansk City Council said in a statement on its website.

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20 civilians killed in Lugansk shelling - City Hall

Published time: July 18, 2014 11:10
Edited time: July 18, 2014 13:53
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A firefighter examones the facade of a residential house damaged in artillery shelling of Lugansk 18 July, 2014 (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)


At least 20 have been killed in shelling of the city of Lugansk, eastern Ukraine. The information was confirmed by the local city administration.

"Today intense bombardment of Lugansk has continued. Shells are falling in almost all districts of the city,” the administration said in a statement. “According to preliminary information, more than 20 civilians have been killed since this morning."

WARNING: Graphic video shows covered bodies – victims of the shelling in Lugansk



The statement posted on the administration’s website said shells targeted the city center, major streets, the railway station and a market.

Lugansk residents reported a shell falling close to a church, killing one person. They said the city was attacked by Ukrainian army’s rockets fired from a military jet.

"Self-defense forces fired at [the aircraft] from manpads [man-portable air defence systems], but we don’t know if they hit it or not,” some locals were cited as saying by ITAR-TASS.

The Lisichansk Oil Refinery, property of the Russian oil company Rosneft - recently sanctioned by the US - has also been attacked and set on fire.

The opposition claims the refinery was targeted by Ukrainian army from Grad multiple rocket launcher system.



Locals reports that the refinery, targeted in the early hours of Friday, is still ablaze.

The artillery shelling that started overnight has left “85 percent of Lugansk” without electricity. Residents have no tap water as local pumping stations were shut down.

It is likely that electrify will only be restored when shelling stops, City Hall said. Due to continuing shelling, repairmen can’t reach the station where power was disrupted.

Local media reports also say that there is no mobile connection, internet or television.

So far Kiev’s forces have failed to enter Lugansk, but constant shelling of living quarters claim the lives of civilians on a daily basis.



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People in Lugansk after an artillery attack (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)

The Lugansk city administration has issued a statement estimating the number of killed and injured “recently.” While the statement points out that the data does not include the July 18 shelling, it does not specify the dates on which the statistics were collected.

According to the statement, 44 people have been killed, including one child, and 215 wounded, including four children.

Fighting continues to the north of the city, in the village of Metallist, 10km from Lugansk, and in the west, in Yubileynoye settlement.

According to ITAR-TASS, self-defense forces claim they have managed to push back Kiev troops in Metallist.

One of the shells has almost hit a local administration headquarters, falling some 200 meters from it, Russian LifeNews channel reported. It also said that another shell struck a civilian house which was completely destroyed. The owner was hospitalized.



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RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov

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Jos Malesia saa varmat todisteet, että malesialaisen lentoyhtiön lentokoneen putoaminen oli terroriteko, ja että takana oli Venäjän agenda epävakauttaa Ukrainaa niin mitä Malesia tekee. Mitä valtiot yleensä tekevät, kun niiden siviiliyhtiöiden lentokoneisiin kohdistuu terroriteko.
 
Jos Malesia saa varmat todisteet, että malesialaisen lentoyhtiön lentokoneen putoaminen oli terroriteko, ja että takana olivat Venäjän agenda epävakauttaa Ukrainaa niin mitä Malesia tekee. Mitä valtiot yleensä tekevät, kun niiden siviiliyhtiöiden lentokoneisiin kohdistuu terroriteko.

Protestoivat ja vetäytyvät nurkkaan nuolemaan haavojaan?
 
Jos Malesia saa varmat todisteet, että malesialaisen lentoyhtiön lentokoneen putoaminen oli terroriteko, ja että takana oli Venäjän agenda epävakauttaa Ukrainaa niin mitä Malesia tekee. Mitä valtiot yleensä tekevät, kun niiden siviiliyhtiöiden lentokoneisiin kohdistuu terroriteko.

Ei varmaankaan mitään.

Mitäpä jokin Malesia voisi tehdä? Vetää diplomaattinsa pois Moskovasta? Ai kauhia, kun on radikaalia..
 
Mutta mitä tapahtuu Luhanskissa (Luganskissa)? Ovatko oheiset uutiset Venäjän sisäiseen käyttöön tarkoitettua fuulaa, vai miksi näistä surmista ei löydy mitään kansainvälisillä saiteilla? Luulisi noinkin suuren uhrimäärän herättävän edes pientä huomiota.


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Forty-four civilians have been killed and 215 injured amid armed hostilities in Luhansk in the past several days, Luhansk City Council said in a statement on its website.

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20 civilians killed in Lugansk shelling - City Hall

Published time: July 18, 2014 11:10
Edited time: July 18, 2014 13:53
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A firefighter examones the facade of a residential house damaged in artillery shelling of Lugansk 18 July, 2014 (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)


At least 20 have been killed in shelling of the city of Lugansk, eastern Ukraine. The information was confirmed by the local city administration.

"Today intense bombardment of Lugansk has continued. Shells are falling in almost all districts of the city,” the administration said in a statement. “According to preliminary information, more than 20 civilians have been killed since this morning."

WARNING: Graphic video shows covered bodies – victims of the shelling in Lugansk



The statement posted on the administration’s website said shells targeted the city center, major streets, the railway station and a market.

Lugansk residents reported a shell falling close to a church, killing one person. They said the city was attacked by Ukrainian army’s rockets fired from a military jet.

"Self-defense forces fired at [the aircraft] from manpads [man-portable air defence systems], but we don’t know if they hit it or not,” some locals were cited as saying by ITAR-TASS.

The Lisichansk Oil Refinery, property of the Russian oil company Rosneft - recently sanctioned by the US - has also been attacked and set on fire.

The opposition claims the refinery was targeted by Ukrainian army from Grad multiple rocket launcher system.



Locals reports that the refinery, targeted in the early hours of Friday, is still ablaze.

The artillery shelling that started overnight has left “85 percent of Lugansk” without electricity. Residents have no tap water as local pumping stations were shut down.

It is likely that electrify will only be restored when shelling stops, City Hall said. Due to continuing shelling, repairmen can’t reach the station where power was disrupted.

Local media reports also say that there is no mobile connection, internet or television.

So far Kiev’s forces have failed to enter Lugansk, but constant shelling of living quarters claim the lives of civilians on a daily basis.



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People in Lugansk after an artillery attack (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)

The Lugansk city administration has issued a statement estimating the number of killed and injured “recently.” While the statement points out that the data does not include the July 18 shelling, it does not specify the dates on which the statistics were collected.

According to the statement, 44 people have been killed, including one child, and 215 wounded, including four children.

Fighting continues to the north of the city, in the village of Metallist, 10km from Lugansk, and in the west, in Yubileynoye settlement.

According to ITAR-TASS, self-defense forces claim they have managed to push back Kiev troops in Metallist.

One of the shells has almost hit a local administration headquarters, falling some 200 meters from it, Russian LifeNews channel reported. It also said that another shell struck a civilian house which was completely destroyed. The owner was hospitalized.



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RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov

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Jos on pakko tykittää asuinalueiden liepeille tai jopa sisään hyökkäyksen edistämiseksi, niin juuri nyt on oikea aika. Kaikki huomio on koneturmassa ja kun about 300 business-luokan länkkäriä on kuollut, niin kukapa jaksaa tällä hetkellä välittää joistain kurajalkaisista itä-ukrainalaisista. Kylmästi ajatellen tämä mediatilanne kannattaa käyttää hyväksi. Jos asuisin tuolla niin olisin ehkä eri mieltä.

Edit: Ukrainan puoli sanoo että sepot käyttää vanhaa taktiikkaansa eli tappavat itse siviilejä ja Venäjän media kuvaa tulokset ja ilmoittaa ukrainalaispetojen uusimmat aikaansaannokset. Itse kun en ole paikalla niin paha sanoa miten päin kulloinkin menee. Sinänsähän tämä olisi muistakin konflikteista tuttu tekniikka.
 
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Mutta mitä tapahtuu Luhanskissa (Luganskissa)? Ovatko oheiset uutiset Venäjän sisäiseen käyttöön tarkoitettua fuulaa, vai miksi näistä surmista ei löydy mitään kansainvälisillä saiteilla? Luulisi noinkin suuren uhrimäärän herättävän edes pientä huomiota.


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Luhansk City Council: Forty-four civilians killed, 215 injured in Luhansk lately
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Forty-four civilians have been killed and 215 injured amid armed hostilities in Luhansk in the past several days.
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Forty-four civilians have been killed and 215 injured amid armed hostilities in Luhansk in the past several days, Luhansk City Council said in a statement on its website.

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20 civilians killed in Lugansk shelling - City Hall

Published time: July 18, 2014 11:10
Edited time: July 18, 2014 13:53
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A firefighter examones the facade of a residential house damaged in artillery shelling of Lugansk 18 July, 2014 (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)


At least 20 have been killed in shelling of the city of Lugansk, eastern Ukraine. The information was confirmed by the local city administration.

"Today intense bombardment of Lugansk has continued. Shells are falling in almost all districts of the city,” the administration said in a statement. “According to preliminary information, more than 20 civilians have been killed since this morning."

WARNING: Graphic video shows covered bodies – victims of the shelling in Lugansk



The statement posted on the administration’s website said shells targeted the city center, major streets, the railway station and a market.

Lugansk residents reported a shell falling close to a church, killing one person. They said the city was attacked by Ukrainian army’s rockets fired from a military jet.

"Self-defense forces fired at [the aircraft] from manpads [man-portable air defence systems], but we don’t know if they hit it or not,” some locals were cited as saying by ITAR-TASS.

The Lisichansk Oil Refinery, property of the Russian oil company Rosneft - recently sanctioned by the US - has also been attacked and set on fire.

The opposition claims the refinery was targeted by Ukrainian army from Grad multiple rocket launcher system.



Locals reports that the refinery, targeted in the early hours of Friday, is still ablaze.

The artillery shelling that started overnight has left “85 percent of Lugansk” without electricity. Residents have no tap water as local pumping stations were shut down.

It is likely that electrify will only be restored when shelling stops, City Hall said. Due to continuing shelling, repairmen can’t reach the station where power was disrupted.

Local media reports also say that there is no mobile connection, internet or television.

So far Kiev’s forces have failed to enter Lugansk, but constant shelling of living quarters claim the lives of civilians on a daily basis.



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People in Lugansk after an artillery attack (RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov)

The Lugansk city administration has issued a statement estimating the number of killed and injured “recently.” While the statement points out that the data does not include the July 18 shelling, it does not specify the dates on which the statistics were collected.

According to the statement, 44 people have been killed, including one child, and 215 wounded, including four children.

Fighting continues to the north of the city, in the village of Metallist, 10km from Lugansk, and in the west, in Yubileynoye settlement.

According to ITAR-TASS, self-defense forces claim they have managed to push back Kiev troops in Metallist.

One of the shells has almost hit a local administration headquarters, falling some 200 meters from it, Russian LifeNews channel reported. It also said that another shell struck a civilian house which was completely destroyed. The owner was hospitalized.



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RIA Novosti / Valery Melnikov

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Ja kuinka monta on kuollut esim Gazassa yhden päivän aikana ?
 
Jos on pakko tykittää asuinalueiden liepeille tai jopa sisään hyökkäyksen edistämiseksi, niin juuri nyt on oikea aika. Kaikki huomio on koneturmassa ja kun about 300 business-luokan länkkäriä on kuollut, niin kukapa jaksaa tällä hetkellä välittää joistain kurajalkaisista itä-ukrainalaisista. Kylmästi ajatellen tämä mediatilanne kannattaa käyttää hyväksi. Jos asuisin tuolla niin olisin ehkä eri mieltä.
Ryssien ei tarvitsisi linnoittautua asutulle alueelle, jos olisivat huolissaan vallatusta alueesta ja sen asukkaista.
 
Tässä väitetään olevan todisteet siitä että sama Buk-vaunu numerolla 312, minkä Venäjä kaappasi Krimillä:


.. On kuvattu Ukrainassa Luganskissa.

http://i.imgur.com/QKHjQz4.jpg

Edit: Korjaus: Videon otsikon mukaan aseet Ukrainan hallussa ja niitä ollaan siirtämässä Krimille...
 
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[QUOTE="KorpiSISSI, post: 134420, member: ä tai jossain jota en ymmärrä? Vai mitä tuossa meinaat? Jos joku on eri mieltä onko Putin mafioso joka haalii rahaa omaan kassaan, vai Venäjän diktaattori joka ajaa asioita oman näkemyksensä mukaan niin so W? Eihän äijän toiminta kenenkään täysjärkisen kannata edes ymmärtää. Jotenkin jengiltä unohtuu että äijä on Neuvostoliiton&KGB:n kasvatti, ja että Venäjä on Venäjä.
Itse kommentoin ja olen kiinnostunut näitä asioita koska olen historiasta(sekä tulevaisuudesta;) )kaikin puolin kiinnostunut, harrastan yleissivistykseni tason nostamista jatkuvasti, jostain syystä olen lukenut sotakirjallisuutta 11-vuotiaasta lähtien(ehkä koska paappani teki työuransa upseerina), maapallolla tapahtuu tällä hetkellä kaikkea ikävän jännittävää idän ja lännen,- sekä kaheliden kiihkouskovaisten välillä. Olen myös erittäin maanpuolustustahtoinen(en starttaa heti viisheppastani ja ajele Ruotsiin tosipaikan tullen).

Eli en suoraan sanottuna ymmärrä yhtään porukkaa jotka haluaa/moderoisi tälläiset postaukset. Ihminen on ainakin jollain tasolla tyhmä jos ei pysty päänsä sisällä asemoitumaan toisen asemaan.. Vaikka se nyt tässä tapauksessa olisi itse Saatana Putleri.
Jos keskustelun taso jää (joillakin) tasolle että Putin ryövää kaikken mitä irti lähtee itselleen niin kannattaisi keksiä muuta tekemistä kuin tämän foorumin vahtaaminen?
Ymmärrän kyllä jos selvään paskanjauhantaan/puhumiseen puututaan mutta eikö tämä nyt PRKL ole tullut kaikille foorumin aktiiviseuraajille selväksi millä mielellä&intressillä täälä aikaani kulutan?
:solthum:
Edit: Joitain selviä kirjoitusvirheitä joita en kuitenkaan editoi. o_O
 
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Russia Todaystä eronnut toimittaja: "Joka päivä keksin seksikkäämpiä tapoja valehdella"
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Russia Todayn Lontoon-kirjeenvaihtaja Sara Firth kertoi Twitterissä eroavansa tehtävistään. Kuvakaappaus Twitteristä.


Englanninkielisen televisiokanava Russia Todayn Lontoon-kirjeenvaihtaja Sara Firth eroaa tehtävästään. Firth kertoi asiasta ensimmäiseksi Twitter-tilillään. Syyksi eroon Firth kertoo televisiokanavan puolueellisen Venäjä-uutisoinnin ja että hän joutui työssään jatkuvasti valehtelemaan.

Ukrainan torstainen lentoturma oli hänelle viimeinen pisara.

"Se oli täydellistä faktojen vääristelyä. Silminnäkijähavainnot poimittiin ihmisiltä, jotka avoimesti syyttivät Ukrainan hallitusta turmaan sekaantumisesta", Firth kertoo uutisverkkosivusto Buzzfeedissä.

Vuodesta 2009 kanavalla työskennelleen Firthin mukaan toimittajat kertovat valheita ja keksivät faktoja päästään.

"En halua valehdella samaan aikaan, kun ihmiset menettävät perheenjäseniään. Joka päivä keksimme uusia, entistä seksikkäämpiä tapoja valehdella. En pysty siihen enää" Firth sanoo Buzzfeedissä.

Firth kertoo varsin avoimesti Russia Todayn työskentelytavoista. Firthin mukaan televisiokanava hyödyntää propagandauutisoinnissaan erityisesti kokemattomia toimittajia.

"Heitä avustavat muut toimittajat, jotka soittelevat lähteille, joiden tiedetään kertovan tiettyjä asioita tietystä näkökulmasta" Firth toteaa Buzzfeedissä.

Firth uskoo, että monet toimittajat jäävät RT:n palvelukseen korkeiden palkkojen ja vakituisen työsopimuksen takia. Monille nämä seikat ovat tärkeämpiä kuin Firthin mukaan "taistelu systeemiä vastaan". Firth sanoo, ettei itse ole koskaan työssään valehdellut, mutta pelkää omien töidensä näyttävän valehtelulta kanavan muun sisällön rinnalla.

Twitter-tilillään Firth kirjoittaa kunnioittavansa eroamisesta huolimatta monia entisiä työtovereitaan. Myös Buzzfeedin haastattelussa hän kuvailee monia entisiä kollegoitaan lahjakkaiksi. Syyttävä sormi osoittaakin televisiokanavan epäpäteviin esimiehiin.

"Esimiehet ovat läpimätiä. Niin pitkään kuin he eivät halua kertoa totuutta, mikään ei tule muuttumaan" Firth toteaa Buzzfeedissä.

Firth ei ole ensimmäinen toimittaja, joka lähtee Russia Todaysta. Viime vuonna televisiokanavan palveluksesta irtisanoutui myös uutisankkuri Liz Wahl.

Twitter täyttyi perjantai-iltana Firthin eroon liittyvistä kirjoituksista ja kommenteista. Nimimerkki Tanosin tviitti aiheutti kiivaan kirjeenvaihdon hänen, Firthin ja Russia Todayn toimittajan Polly Boikon välillä.

"Miten pystyt nukkumaan öisin tietäen, että levität koko ajan Putinin valheita? Mieti kaikkia lentoturmassa kuolleita lapsia", Tanos kirjoittaa Boikolle.

"Anteeksi mitä?" Boiko vastaa.

"Valheita rakas. Me työskentelemme Putinille joka ikinen päivä", Firth vastaa heille molemmille.

Näiden kommenttien jälkeen keskusteluun osallistuvat useat toimittajat, jotka onnittelevat Firthiä hänen rohkeasta ratkaisustaan. Jotkut epäilevät jonkun hakkeroituneen Firthin Twitter-tiliin. Firth kiistää tämän ja kertoo haluavansa ainoastaan kertoa totuuden Russia Todayn toiminnasta.
 
:rolleyes:
Empä usko että Putinin tavoitteena on 'ryöstää' Ukrainaa.. Täälä on edelleenkin porukkaa joka jostain ihme syystä ajattelee että Putinin henk.koht tavoite on ryöstää ja viedä rahaa sieltä sun täältä. EIKÖHÄN HERRALLA OLE MAALLISEN MAMMONAN TAVOITE JO TOTEUTETTU?!?
Ihme sakkia..
 
Raskauttavaa jos totta. Silmukka kiristyy ja päitä putoaa!



SBU releases more conversations implicating Russia in shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight (VIDEO, TRANSCRIPT)
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The crash site of the downed Malaysian Airlines passenger site that Kremlin-backed terrorists had allegedly destroyed on July 17 with an advanced, radar-guided surface-to-air missile system that was delivered from Russia.
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Katya Gorchinskaya


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Mark Rachkevych


Mark has been a reporter for the Kyiv Post since 2006, but joined full-time in 2009. A native Chicagoan where he was the co-founder of the now defunct Glasshouse Magazine, Mark currently is an editor of business news and still contributes stories on an ongoing basis. He is a former U.S. Peace Corps volunteer, a graduate of St. Norbert College in Wisconsin, and fluent in the Ukrainian and Russian languages.

Ukraine’s security service, known as the SBU, on July 18 published additional intercepted telephone conversations that further implicate Russia in the downing of the Malaysia Airline Flight 17, killing all 298 people on board on July 17. The conversations allegedly took place between Russian military intelligence officers and their armed proxies who discussed the delivery of a Buk missile system from Russia ahead of the downing of the Malaysian passenger jet.

Classified by NATO as SA-11 GADFLY, Buk missile systems are advanced, radar-guided surface-to-air missile systems, or SAM in military lingo. Four Russian SAM systems could knock down a passenger jet flying at 33,000 feet, according to Defense Tech, the same altitude at which the Malaysian airliner was flying when it was hit.

In the intercepted conversations, the Russian officers and Kremlin-backed militants express relief in finally getting their hands on a Buk-M system, one of four modified versions of the Russian SAM. Kyiv believes the Russians in Donetsk Oblast used the Buk-M2 because Ukraine’s military doesn’t have them in its arsenal.

Until recently, Ukraine had enjoyed relative air superiority over the Kremlin-backed militants.

But on July 14, a missile allegedly fired from the Russian side – it’s unclear whether it was air-to-air or ground-to-air – shot down an An-26 Ukrainian military transport plane in Luhansk Oblast near the Ukrainian-Russian border, according to the Ukrainian government.

On July 16, a Ukrainian Su-25 fighter jet was allegedly shot down by an air-to-air missile fired by a MiG-29 jet in Russia, according to Andriy Lysenko, spokesperson for the National Security Defense Council.

To destroy the Su-25, on July 16 at 6:55 p.m. near the town of Amvrosiyivka, “the Russian Air Force ordered the pilot of a MiG-29 plan to use an R–27T (AA–10 Alamo–B) medium range Infra Red homing air–to–air missile.

This type of missile cannot be detected by the Su–25’s SPO–15 radiation warning receiver, and neither can it be detected by satellite surveillance systems or post–launch surveillance systems,” stated Lysenko. “During the air fight, Russian fighter aircraft homed in on the Ukrainian plane three times for a guaranteed rocket launch.

After the target was acquired with the help of an onboard quantum optical location station, the MiG–29 fired one missile at the Ukrainian plane. It is only thanks to the skillful anti–missile maneuvers of the Ukrainian pilot that a direct hit was avoided. The missile hit the motor nozzle and the pilot crash–landed the plane.”

At a press briefing in Kyiv on July 18, Lysenko showed a radio conversion allegedly between the Russian MiG-29 pilot and his base as he attempts to shoot down a Ukrainian aircraft. The conversation starts after the sixth minute.

Concerning the delivered Buk system from Russia, the SBU says it crossed into Ukraine at 1 a.m. on July 17 close to the town of Sukhodolsk. Later that morning at 9 a.m., it arrived in Donetsk, but was later moved to Pervomaisk. After the Malaysian passenger jet was shot down, the Interior Ministry's intelligence unit recorded a crawler tractor carrying a missile system moving towards the border of Russia. The video clearly shows missiles, with the middle one of three missing.

“We're analyzing this and other collected information. We think this is the very Buk system which shot at the civilian plane flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur,” Interior Ministry Avakov said. He said that the terrorists were “trying to hide evidence of the terrible crime.”

Below is the video and full English-language transcript of alleged conversations between Russian military intelligence officers and their proxies regarding the receipt and delivery of a Buk system from Russia:

Dialogue starts at the 38th second:

Talks between terrorists, July 14, 2014

“Oleh” – Oleh Bugrov Valeriovych, army chief of staff of self-proclaimed Luhansk People's Republic, deputy minister of defense of “LNR”.

“Oreon” – a citizen of the Russian Federation, officer of Main Intelligence Directorate (to be identified).

Oleh: – Worked out a plane near Stanitsa. Missed.

Oreon: – Great. This way they are taking revenge on planes, but only several days remain. Now we have (radar-guided surface-to-air) BUK (missile system), will shall bring them (planes) down.

Talks between terrorists, July 17, 2014

Khmuryi: Sergei Nikolaevich Petrovskiy, year of birth 1964, officer of Main Intelligence Directorate of Russian Federation, Deputy Chief of Ihor Girkin on Intelligence, at the time of the interception he was in Donetsk.

“Buryat” – militant of terrorist organization “DNR” (to be indentified).

Buryat: – Where should we load this beauty, Nikolaievich?

Khmuryi: Which one? This one?

B: Yes, the one I've brought. I'm already in Donetsk.

K: Is it the one I'm thinking about? “B...,”M” one?

B: Yes, yes, yes. “BUK”,”BUK”.

K: Is it on a tractor?

B: Yes, it's on it. We need to unload it somewhere, in order to hide.

K: Is it with a crew?

B: Yes, with the crew.

K: Don't hide it anywhere. She'll go there now.

July 17, 2014

Khmuryi: – Tell me, have you brought me one or two?

Buryat: One, one. Because they had a misunderstanding there. They didn't give us a tug. We loaded it and went at their own pace.

K: Did it go on her own or on a tug?

B: It crossed the line (border).

H: And now have you brought it on a tug? Don't put in anywhere... I'll tell now where it should go, it will go together with “Vostok” tanks.

Talks between terrorists, July 17, 2014

Khmuryi: Sergei Mikhailovich Petrovskiy, year of birth 1964, officer of Main Intelligence Directorate of Russian Federation, Deputy Chief of Ihor Girkin on Intelligence, at the time of the interception was in Donetsk

“Sanych” – militant of terrorist organization “DNR”. Deputy of Khmuryi.

K: Sanych, the point is that my “BUK–M” (modified Russian SAM system) will go with yours, it is on a tug. Where should I drive it to put in a column?

Sanych: There, behind “Motel”, not reaching Hornostaevka.

K: Just after the Motel, right?

July 17, 2014

Khmuryi: Listen to me carefully, behind the circle near “Motel” there will be you know what. Call to “Bibliotekar” (Librarian).

Bring inside only those, who just came back, only as much as you need for the convoy. Leave everyone else here. Not far away there is Pervomaiskoe, look at the map.

DNR militant: I got it.

Khmuryi: Settle somewhere in that area, bring there those who are left. Your task is reserve, plus protection of this piece (BUK–M), which you will drive now. “Giyrza” will come there too. If anything, I'm on line.

DNR militant: – Ok.

Talks between terrorists, July 17, 2014

Khmuryi: Sergei Mikhailovich Petrovskiy, 1964 year of birth, officer of Main Intelligence Directorate of Russian Federation, Deputy Chief of Ihor Girkin on Intelligence who at the time of the interception was in Donetsk

“Botsman” – officer of Main Intelligence Directorate of Russian Federation (to be identified).

H: Yes, Botsman, I'm listening.

B: Hello, big brother. How are you?

H: Not so well. We are in Mariinovka. That's why not well. Carrying on.

B: What's wrong?

H: What do you think? (The Ukrainian army is) attacking with “Grad” (multiple-rocket launchers) all the time, finally now we're having a little break. We've just hit a plane, Su–type. Because we've got BUK–M. They (Ukrainian soldiers) are now in Zelenopillja, trying to break free, but their way out is only through me. Yesterday we hit 2 Su jets, today – another two. Thank God “BUK–M” arrived today in the morning. It became easier. But in general, of course, it's tough.

B: What can I say, if you need anything, call me – and I'll arrive immediately.

H: Thanks, brother. I'm going in two hours...Seems like it's a lull. In two hours I'm heading to Donetsk. Because I was sent three more “Gvozdika” (self–propelled artillery). Will carry 'Gvozdikas' here because it's really tough now.

B: Maybe we should cover them with (our own) Grad (multiple-rocket launchers)?

H: The thing is that we have Grad, but no spotter. And secondly, we are waiting for Russia to f... them from their side.
 
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