Venäjän erikoisjoukot

Merten sheriffi

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Lahjoittaja
Vaihtoehtoisesti voidaan lähettää myös... hmmm... kouluttamaan samalle suunnalle kuin edellämainitut. :cool:
Ai niin SORRY. Unohdin että suomalaiset johtaneet tykistötulta Isis niskaan. Varmaan samalla kaapanneet myös jonkun militanttien komentajan ja luovuttaneet jenkeille. Tämä lienee kuitenkin top secret.
 

VanhaPate

Eversti
Meet Zaslon, Russia’s ultra-secretive unit


The Russian Ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, was assassinated on December 19th by Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş in Ankara. Scenes of the assassination are still fresh in most people’s memory as it was televised how Mevlüt shot the ambassador in the back and started circling the body, screaming in Arabic and Turkish. The next day, the Russian news agency Rosbalt published an interview with an anonymous officer of the ultra-secret Zaslon unit. He claimed the ambassador’s life could have been saved if operatives of Zaslon had been there, but that the Turkish government did not allow them to deploy in Turkey.

Zaslon (Barrier or Screen) is a highly-secretive unit, which falls under the Sluzhba Vneshney Razvedki (SVR), Russia’s civilian foreign intelligence service. Yet, when trying to find any information on the SVR website, there is not a trace or mention. According to Russia expert Mark Galeotti, Zaslon was unofficially established in 1997 by a secret presidential decree before it became fully operational in 1998. According to several sources, the unit is attached to the 7th Department of Center for Self Security (CSB) of the SVR. The more familiar Vympel and Alpha Group have reached almost mythical status because of films, books, and other media. Zaslon, on the other hand, is almost never mentioned by the Russian state, media, or academia.


There are rare glimpses, such as the Rosbalt interview or the almost-immediately-deleted picture posted on Twitter by Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin. It reads: “Thanks to officers of the Zaslon unit for providing security in the territory of Lebanon and Syria.”

Zaslon has around 300 active members deployed in several theaters around the world. Until now, it was confirmed that Zaslon operated in Iraq, mainly during the early days of the invasion. Zaslon was tasked with the evacuation of Russian diplomatic personnel, recovering sensitive intelligence products, and recovering Russian technology.

In Syria, Zaslon was involved in diplomatic security and advising the Syrian armed forces. It also was also part of a rescue operation of Russian nationals in Libya after the fall of the Qaddafi regime, where the convoy was nearly struck by an IED. Additionally, sources claim Zaslon personnel are stationed in Afghanistan, Algeria, and Sudan and probably traveled this week to Venezuela to support diplomatic staff there.


Interestingly, the training and specialties of Zaslon include, but are not limited to: hostage rescue, reconnaissance, assassinations, and sabotage. It is therefore understandable that the Turkish government has been reluctant to let Zaslon operate within its borders. Furthermore, it can be observed that it is highly unusual that a unit with that much training and secrecy is only employed for diplomatic security. To make a clumsy but illustrative parallel, it would be similar to using the SAS or the CIA’s Special Operations Group (SOG) to guard diplomatic personnel.


Pictures of Zaslon are rare but its officers generally can be recognized by the following attributes:
  • Uniform is generally in khaki, olive or black
  • Prefer the 7.62 over the 5.45, probably due to the availability in the operating environment
  • Officers do not wear official unit badges or insignia but prefer the Russian flag patch


While Zaslon is rarely mentioned in print, this is changing. Russia is actively expanding its sphere of influence. Sudan and Venezuela are both teetering on the edge with popular uprisings, and unlike in the old age, the revolution will not only be televised but also shared on social media. More and more information will be gathered on this mysterious unit. Watch this space.

https://thenewsrep.com/113598/meet-zaslon-russias-ultra-secretive-unit/

Forces spéciales russes secrètes en Syrie: le détachement Zaslon

Google käännös ranskasta englanniksi
Dependent on the foreign intelligence service of the Russian Federation, the Zaslon detachment has been engaged for several years in Syria where it carries out missions such as the protection of Russian personalities or the regime of Damascus. Matteo Puxton, an associate of History, a specialist in defense issues and a reference observer of the Iraq-Syria conflict, raises for France-Soir a bit of the veil that the Kremlin has placed on this unit of the Russian special forces.


Zaslon: the name will not evoke much, even to those who are interested in Russian security forces and the Russian army. And for good reason: this unit, one of the most secret of Russia, is surrounded by a veil of mystery. His presence in Syria, alongside the Syrian regime, is now a certainty.


The detachment Zaslon ("screen", Заслон in Russian) is a special unit that depends on the SVR, the foreign intelligence service of the Russian Federation. This service was born in 1991, after the disappearance of the USSR, but originates from the KGB and further to the Cheka. Among the SVR's missions is the protection of Russian institutions and nationals abroad. The Zaslon detachment was created in 1998 for this purpose. It was supposed to replace the Spetsnaz unit "Vympel", created by Yuri Andropov in 1981, attached to the KGB, then after the fall of the USSR to the MVD and finally, from 1995, to the FSB. A unit of the same type already existed under the authority of the 1st KGB leadership at the time of the USSR: it carried out special missions in Afghanistan. Zaslon relies on SVR's S direction to infiltrate agents abroad. The Zaslon detachment would be, precisely, the 7th department of the SVR.


The existence of the Zaslon detachment is not recognized by the Russian government: the latter would include 280/300 to 500 men, according to sources. It can also lead to targeted assassinations, among other special missions. In 2006, after the assassination of four Russian diplomats in Baghdad, the Zaslon detachment was assigned to "liquidate" the perpetrators of this act, allegedly the jihadists of Zarqawi (according to another version, the Russians claim that the SAS British would have killed the members of the embassy ...). Among the four killed was probably a member of Zaslon in charge of the security of the members of the embassy, Oleg Fedoseev. The body of the latter was buried in Russia in 2012. Russian sources claim that the Zaslon detachment evacuated the staff of the US embassy in Yemen, in Sanaa, in April 2015. At the outbreak of the Syrian conflict, Mikhail Fradkov, the head of the SVR until 22 September 2016, has this unit under his authority. He is replaced by Sergei Naryshkin, still at the head of foreign intelligence today. Alexander Smolkov, first deputy director, is in charge of SVR's first service, which is under the responsibility of the Zaslon detachment. When he was born in 1998, the detachment was commanded by A.S. Kolosov.


In 2012, the Zaslon detachment escorted SVR chief Mikhail Fradkov during his visit to Damascus. According to some sources, a Zaslon detachment group was deployed in Syria as early as May 10, 2013, both to protect Bashar al-Assad but also possibly to recover sensitive documents and materials in the event of a collapse of the Syrian regime. On 24 May 2014, visiting Russian Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin, who is visiting Damascus, poses with members of the Zaslon detachment and publishes the images on his Twitter account: these are quickly erased.


In Syria, the presence of a detachment of the Zaslon unit is evident at the time of Russia's direct intervention in the conflict, in September 2015. This detachment does not respond to the orders of the GRU, the military intelligence, which has dispatched his own Spetsnaz to Syria, and who works with the Syrian Defense Ministry in Damascus. The Zaslon detachment is located at the Russian Embassy in Omar Ben Al Khattab Street, which is located near the Russian GRU officers in La Défense. If the detachment can serve to protect Russian personalities and buildings, or their Syrian counterparts, and can also participate in training or mentoring missions (it would appear that the Zaslon detachment is supporting the Syrian moukhabarat, the infamous secret services of the Damascus regime), it is perhaps still at the time, for Russia, to evacuate some important documents or equipment in the event of a fall of the regime (it was probably already the original mission of the group to his arrival in 2013 ...). There is a precedent since the Zaslon detachment was deployed in Iraq in the last days of Saddam Hussein's reign in 2003, both to evacuate embassy personnel and to retrieve certain documents (Operation "Breakthrough"). ..


In 2016, the Zaslon detachment is once again mentioned after the assassination of the Russian ambassador to Turkey, Andrei Karlov, on 19 December, by the Turkish policeman Mevlüt Mert Altıntaş. The interview of a member of this unit in the Russian daily Rosbalt underlines that Zaslon never received from Turkey the authorization to protect the members of the embassy (the question arose as early as the 1990s with the and coming from Chechen fighters in Turkey to heal or rest) because the unit would move heavily armed, which Turkey has never accepted. The Zaslon detachment is, in principle, limited in Syria to the tasks of security and protection of Russian personnel, unlike the Spetsnaz of the GRU and the KSO (Special Operations Command), which carry out more military tasks in Syria.


In February 2018, a video of the Zvezda channel, on the occasion of the anniversary of the Russian special forces (February 27), shows members of the Zaslon detachment on the roofs of the Damascus embassy and surrounding buildings, with members Russian special forces.


On December 10, 2018, the television channel Rossiya 24 broadcasts a documentary filmed at SVR HQ in the Yasenevo district of Moscow. The Zaslon detachment is shown in training: the men are equipped with Vityaz-SN submachine guns, with AN / PEQ-15 laser sights, Valdai MN-230 night vision goggles, Peltor-3M anti-noise helmets, Aimpoint Micro T-1 sights, LSHZ 1+ headsets.


The Zaslon Detachment does not have an emblem, badge, or uniform to distinguish it when operating in the field. On the other hand, its members often carry a patch when they are on a mission abroad with the words "Russian Embassy" sometimes translated into the local language, as is the case in Syria. On Russian sites, however, there are emblems or pennants associated with the unit.


One of the most secretive and therefore least known units of the Russian special forces, the Zaslon detachment, by its presence in Syria, also illustrates Russia's desire to demonstrate its return on the international scene. The Russian intervention remains, we must not forget, a projection of military power.
http://www.francesoir.fr/en-coop-matteo-puxton/forces-speciales-russes-secretes-en-syrie-detachement-zaslon

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17F1BD77-4726-47AA-ACD7-8E5BF1E48515.jpegA member of the Zaslon detachment (probably) in training with an SV-98 sniper rifle.

375CA114-91E0-44AC-A9EF-70F51FC6B2B2.jpegMembers of the Zaslon detachment on the roofs of the Embassy (video of February 2018). We recognize the color kakie / green of the outfit and the patch "embassy" on the man closest to the camera.

45C54E7B-E1FB-4696-9030-72745221815F.jpegThe man who passes to the right is probably a member of the Zalson detachment, as the outfit indicates. On the left, men of special forces; the Steyr SSG 08 precision rifle with silencer, a non-Russian weapon used only by a few special forces units (http://armamentresearch.com/the-sniper-weapon-systems-of-russian-forces-in-syria). /).

18082B71-B884-4C6F-9CC7-F1E3D4032FF9.jpegApril 2018, two members of Zalson in Syria. We recognize the patch on the right, the distinctive color of the green or khaki outfit that we often find, AK 104/109 assault rifles, LSHZ special forces helmet.
 

StmSvejk

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Kun tavisjoukoilla on nykyään maastopuvut, erottautuvat erikoisjoukot pukeutumalla - tadaa - yksivärisiin asuihin... Maailma on tehnyt ympyrän toisen maailmansodan päivistä...

EDIT: Kunhan seuraavaksi palautetaan käyttöön kenttäharmaat asut, kohoaa reservimme suorituskyky vähintään erikoisjoukkojen tasolle!
 
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Kun tavisjoukoilla on nykyään maastopuvut, erottautuvat erikoisjoukot pukeutumalla - tadaa - yksivärisiin asuihin... Maailma on tehnyt ympyrän toisen maailmansodan päivistä...

EDIT: Kunhan seuraavaksi palautetaan käyttöön kenttäharmaat asut, kohoaa reservimme suorituskyky vähintään erikoisjoukkojen tasolle!
Tai voihan se olla, että kehitys kehittyy ja erikoiseinarit alkavat käyttää näkymättömiä maastopukuja, kuten eräskin tuossa kuvassa...

 

StmSvejk

Ylipäällikkö
Tai voihan se olla, että kehitys kehittyy ja erikoiseinarit alkavat käyttää näkymättömiä maastopukuja, kuten eräskin tuossa kuvassa...
Yllä mainitulla Fuerzas Especialesin operaattorilta puuttui oleellinen suorituskyvyn lisääjä, eli baseball-lippis. Aikoinaan eri maiden armeijoihin on otettu käyttöön baretit toisen maailmansodan erikoisjoukkoja kopioidessa, koska nykypäivän operaattorit käyttävät lippiksiä niin varmaan kymmenen vuoden päästä Suomessakin loma-asun päähineenä on yksivärinen baseball-lippis... ehkä jopa perinteinen, äärisotilaallinen sorsalippis, jos ihan rohkeaksi uskaltaudutaan.
 

Ingsoc

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Yllä mainitulla Fuerzas Especialesin operaattorilta puuttui oleellinen suorituskyvyn lisääjä, eli baseball-lippis. Aikoinaan eri maiden armeijoihin on otettu käyttöön baretit toisen maailmansodan erikoisjoukkoja kopioidessa, koska nykypäivän operaattorit käyttävät lippiksiä niin varmaan kymmenen vuoden päästä Suomessakin loma-asun päähineenä on yksivärinen baseball-lippis...
Lippis on varmaan ihan hyvä hattu operaattorille. Kun katsoo ulkotyötä tekeviä ihmisiä, niin suomessa tuntuu olevan päässä lippis, pipo tai karvalakki.

Aika harvoin näkee baretteja, baskereita, fetsejä tai vaikka kepi lakkeja. Toisaalta vähitellenhän asevoimat on luopuneet myös pussihousuista, kannuksista ja musketöörisaappaista.
 

Iso-Mursu

Ylipäällikkö
Kun tavisjoukoilla on nykyään maastopuvut, erottautuvat erikoisjoukot pukeutumalla - tadaa - yksivärisiin asuihin... Maailma on tehnyt ympyrän toisen maailmansodan päivistä...

EDIT: Kunhan seuraavaksi palautetaan käyttöön kenttäharmaat asut, kohoaa reservimme suorituskyky vähintään erikoisjoukkojen tasolle!
Tuon takia minä haluan ne KuusKekkoset ressuille
 

Kyrätulli

Kersantti
Ja ponnarilla olevia tukkia...
 

Stokes

Luutnantti
Ai niin SORRY. Unohdin että suomalaiset johtaneet tykistötulta Isis niskaan. Varmaan samalla kaapanneet myös jonkun militanttien komentajan ja luovuttaneet jenkeille. Tämä lienee kuitenkin top secret.
Sinulla ei ole tietoa siitä mitä suomalaiset ovat tehneet, niin kuulukin olla. In Finland we have this thing called julkinen ja ei-julkinen toiminta. Joko suomalaiset eivät ole tehneet mitään (koska YouTubessa ei ole yhtään taisteluvideota Afgoista tai Irakista) tai sitten jotkut asiat vain osataan pitää vähemmän julkisena. Jätän pääteltäväksesi kumpi vaihtoehto on todennäköisempi.
 

Benelli

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Ai niin SORRY. Unohdin että suomalaiset johtaneet tykistötulta Isis niskaan. Varmaan samalla kaapanneet myös jonkun militanttien komentajan ja luovuttaneet jenkeille. Tämä lienee kuitenkin top secret.
En olisi mitenkään yllättynyt ottaen huomioon että tuo ei olisi hulluinta mitä KV-operaatioissa olleet ovat tähän mennessä tehneet.
 

Merten sheriffi

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Lahjoittaja
Täällä on kaivettu näköjään pintaan vanhoja keskusteluita. Onhan tuollaiset teoriassa mahdollisia mutta ymmärtääkseni Suomen laki ei taida sallia varsinaisia sotatoimia. Itsepuolustus asia erikseen.
 

kimmo.j

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Lahjoittaja
Täällä on kaivettu näköjään pintaan vanhoja keskusteluita. Onhan tuollaiset teoriassa mahdollisia mutta ymmärtääkseni Suomen laki ei taida sallia varsinaisia sotatoimia. Itsepuolustus asia erikseen.
Et sitten muista, kuinka Afganistanissa olevat Suomalaisjoukot kirjasivat kotimaisiin (julkisiin) raportteihin että kontakti vihollisen kanssa ei tuotanut viholliselle tappioita, siis vihollisen tappioita ei voitu varmentaa. Kuitenkin Nato johtoisen tehtävän raporteihin ne väitetysti kirjattiin hyvinkin tarkasti, ne kun eivät ole julkisia. Asiaa käsiteltiin jossain TV:n ajankohtaisohjelmassa.
Meillä on siis kaksoisstandardit tässä asiaissa. Kaikki poliittisen korrektiuden takia.
Itsepuolustustahan on, jos tilaa ilmaiskun vihollisen kimppuun, ennen kuin se edes tietää puolustautujan olemassaolosta:sneaky:
 

PSS

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Me vanha polvi olemme oppineet luottamaan täysin 64:n muodostamaan luoti- ja sirpalesuojaan. :)
 
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